Hey Redshift?? WTF?, "Pelican Parts Boycott: in progress." Options

[rhodyguy]

joe, my wife is teacher in a private school. you're right about the family's who bite the bullet to put their kids through them. i would disgree with " less concerned", they send their children because they are. for the record i'm anti voucher

[Hawktel]

Politics.

I just vote for the guy who looks like he will do the least damage anymore.

I like being a American.

Sure, we have done some horrible things. Lucky for us we've done alot more good than bad. Its tough being cool, and the best, but we do what we can.


Redshift, I know you have some really strong views on the Moslem subject. I think though that your using poor lauguage, and its confusing the people your screaming obsenities at. I recommend that you don't use Moslem anymore. Stick with Islamist Fundamentalist. Also, what do you care if some person calls you names? The fact is, your never going to be able to make people appreciate what they have. Thats lifes job. You got to trust in Karma man. I'm certain that the guy who angered you will get some at some point. Until then its better to let him live in his ignorance, while you move on, enjoying your car, and thinking happy thoughts.

And you know the Birdmen have a different kinda house than this one. You got to let them run their house their way. If you have to "vote" with your pocketbook over this point, I can understand that. But, I will still be shopping there.

I'm done.

[bongo monkey]

Well, if Alfred was harrassing people, then he's probably just an attention-seeking kid, who just does this shit to piss people off. It was a good move to ban him, then.

[URY914]

Andy,
That was a pretty decent discription of the public school system. The teacher's union is really in control. We transfered my daughter (2nd grade) to private school this year. Public school was a joke. Yes, it now costs more but she's learning to read.

Paul

[SirAndy]

Andy,
That was a pretty decent discription of the public school system.

wasn't me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

dunno much about the school system here ...
Andy

[Rusty]

Uhhhh, I was just curious about the "boycott".

-Rusty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)

[redshift]

I went to private schools all my life, save first grad, and 4 months one grade.. hmm... 7th.

I went to UGA for a year, then dumped to head to California to becoame a drug addicted music major. I have lived at most levels, I have lived with almost everyone, every walk of life.. people are very selfish, all people.

Everyone wants something, and noone deserves anything the didn't appreciate enough to get themselves.... hey, I have been a skid row case, I know what sucks, it's me, it's my fault.

I am a self-recovered alchy, and a 1/4oz a day coke head. Yep. I stared into a toilet, and in a blink, I changed my life.

I grew, many never do. I base my happy life on personal responsibility, how can you not?

It's wrong to take things from people that don't belong to you, even if mandated by Congress. That is evil, and shameful... in my mind.

I saved myself, and I'll say right here, I don't have patience for losers like me, who refuse to make their own light, and I bought the right to say that by walking with fire.

When you are fucked up, and all alone, you get time to think about yourself. When we want something that isn't ours, It's our own damned faults.

Blame politics all you want, it's not politics, it's an enstilled class war, starts in the middle, and goes both ways.... most of all you see is a fraud of some type, personal agenda, and how can we make you feel remorse for your evil success, Cat A, thru Cat Z.. peckB peckC peckD peckE...


M

[Aaron Cox]

preach it brother miles! LOL.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[URY914]

Sorry Andy,
It was KaptKaos.

Paul

[URY914]

Go Miles, get it out...
Let the demons out, Brother!!

Paul

[Bleyseng]

Maybe Miles should run for office somewhere.......

[redshift]

If nominated, I will not run, elected, I will not serve.... besides, I have a 1st degree murder conviction.


M

[redshift]

Come on fellas, I was kidding about not running for office!

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Where the heck is the sense of humor around here?


M

[ArtechnikA]

Where the heck is the sense of humor around here?

as long as you have the courage of your convictions ...

oh - the humour ? that's cross-posted in a link to another site ...

[swood]

Come on fellas, I was kidding about not running for office!

M

M, do you listen to the Sage's radio show out there?

Get on the ballot boy!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif)

[trojanhorsepower]

I think the root of this thread is Miles being upset for being called a racist. Well I don’t really know you, so I couldn’t say, but I would not make that judgment from what you have posted here.

I guess the only point I want to make here is that it is a similar crime (to racism) to group terrorist as Moslem. They certainly don’t have a corner on the market, yes many of the recent (and historical) acts of treachery have been carried out by people claiming to be Moslems, but I would not judge the entire religion on those few. If you need an example look no further than Oklahoma. Yes sir re bob, we have our own homegrown American terrorist.

This country has no greater threat than division. It is the automatic division into sub groups that has always (and continues to) cause discord. Look at Ireland, and Jerusalem if you need proof. Hell most of the regular people want the killing to stop, but the few persist in making the divisions, looking for some one to blame (other than themselves). We cannot allow our selves to fall into this trap. We must judge every man (and woman Queenie (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ) buy there actions not who they look like.

So, Miles the next time you are mad at terrorist lets be a little more liberal and condemn the whole lot, not just the Moslem ones.

-Pete

[redshift]

Ahh Got ya buddy... context.. it was pure context, I'm sorry the thread is removed.

I looked on my own free will, and I was completely offended by the spewage, so I balanced it with a single post that was a barn burner.

It's all about context, you had to be there. It wasn't a thread about nutcase extremists, it was about shitty USA, and all the bad things we have brought to mankind, how all of our leaders are totally crap, stupid, dumbassed, moronic, shit swagling butt humpers, and how all the American people are dumb fucking sheep.

I don't consider you to be dumb, so I just pointed out that they were walking over the line, and answered their pleas to be slapped.

My fondest memories are ones shared with WWII veterans, I have several friends that are recognized heroes in the fight against Worldwide tyrrany. Someone has to stand up to the noise.

You don't have to agree with me, but if you read all this from begining to end.. I think you will see my intent. I don't start vapid threads of disgust.

I love my country, we are a family, it's the team... sometimes the team swings my way, other times not, but I won't stand by while some other team attacks mine, unanswered... I would die to protect innocent people, and I think that's ok, you don't have to agree, just try to understand?

If it were not for America, many of the people who bitch the loudest would be lamp shades in a German tavern. You can't please the greedy.. as they ride the backs of the bruised.

3025 people died, payback is an unpleasant bitch. I saw it all happen, it's not a lie, and it's worth scouring this world to find the very last of the rats. Without that, we'd all be just normal folks, tinkering with cars, and working at making a life for our families.

Many brave men have given their lives in this cause, I will not allow them to be dishonored, this is a just battle, civilization, and our way of life are in the balance.

And now, I am done.

Thanks for listening, and if you are a disagreeable American, that's ok, I am here to stand up for you as well...

Just dont tread on me.


Miles

[SirAndy]

Thanks for listening, and if you are a disagreeable American, that's ok, I am here to stand up for you as well...

now does that imply that "disagreeable Americans" don't stand up for each other and their fellow americans?

or is it just me reading too much "inbetween lines" ...
Andy

[Mockmaw]

I like how this thread has turned into a general forum for political commentary. Alright, I'll bite (or comment on a few things that I've read)..

Redshift: The use of the term "Moslem Terrorist" is not racist, but terribly inappropriate for very specific historical and cultural reasons. I can back this up, let me know if you care for me to explain.

Hawktel: For that matter, the term "Moslem Fundamentalist" is also an inappropriate term, since the words Fundamentalist and Fundamentalism come from a very specific _Protestant_ history that American/European's are familiar with; because of this, it's easy for us to tack on the word Fundamentalist. Since the Islamic religion, Muslim society, and Middle Eastern politics have not branched from "our" Protestant history, it's inapproprite and incorrect to use a Protestant word to identify Islamic people. I can explain more if you care to hear.

Brad: Do you recognize the fact that your choice to not vote essentially gives you no reason whatsoever to bitch? Funded by money or not, the politicians in this country are still elected through votes. Dollars may pay for votes, but those politicians still need people to enter the actual booth and punch the actual card. By not voting, you've, in a way, endorsed every politician and given every one that's in office their seat. Our government system functions on the idea that one person can't make a difference whatsoever, but the collective people can.. the system was designed from the very beginning to function like this. Your decision to not vote, like so many others in the country, is what makes the system not work like we want it to.

Alfred was a dick.. there's a difference between free-speech and harassment. He crossed the line, he's not with us. That's all I have to say.

On third parties: unfortunately, third-parties screw everything up in our system. Because of the way that we hold elections, third parties will always take votes away from the two candidates who are most alike.. in the last election, Nader took many votes away from Gore but very few from Bush. Bush won the election, but the overall popular sentiment across the country leaned a lot more to the left. A competitive third party candidate will always take votes away from the Republicans if conservative, or the Democrats if liberal. Makes you wonder why one of the two major parties doesn't fund a third party candidate that will take votes away from the opposing major party, haha. Now France has got it right in my opinion. They hold two major elections.. the first one is amongst all of the candidates, here the citizens can vote for anyone that they'd like (their ideological choice, if you will).. the top two candidates then have a 'runoff' final election (this is where the citizens can make their 'practical' choice). I don't like how our political system, with two major parties which ultimately run two very moderate candidates, almost force people to make the decision about 'the lesser of two evils', not their true ideological preference.

KaptKaos: I am vehemently opposed to vouchers, but don't have the energy to fight the good fight on that one..

And finally Red: if the boys over at PP actually cut a thread post that was anti-American/anti-Bush, I'll be more than happy to join your boycott.

[Eddie Williams]

I'm a conservative Libertarian. I also am anti voucher. I feel public education is broke, we've been dumbing down the electorate for years, it's a power ploy by liberal Democrats. A well informed electorate is also a big part of how our system works. It's a reason for the 1st ammendment and public education. If a large portion doesn't understand how it is really supposed to work, then they are more likely to vote to for the party that promises them more entitlements. We've been pouring money into a public education system that is broke, competition may help make it better, but taking money away from it won't. It is our civic duty to pay the taxes to help inform the electorate. We've done our part, however the NEA is not doing their part. I think a compromise is to let a tax payer that chooses to send their kid to a private school of their choice should be allowed to write that tuition off of AGI. Not a total funding of thier education, but an incentive.


I'm interested to hear why the term "Moslem Terrorist" is inappropriate. France may have a system that works for them, but if we were to elect the president based purely on popular vote, New York, Chicago and LA would elect our every president, and "middle America" would lose representation. I know the popular vote did lean slightly toward Gore overall, but the fact that Bush carried way more precincts is why he won. The controversies started because the press called the state too early based on crap exit polls. If they would just have shut the fuck up, the next morning, Bush still would have won by a slim margin. But the history books will show this was a minor blip in constitutional history, no one reads an asterik next to Kenedy's name, he won in close election with a voting scandle as well. But Nixon was gracious in defeat, not like Mr. Gore.