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post Dec 23 2003, 07:07 PM
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Hawktel: For that matter, the term "Moslem Fundamentalist" is also an inappropriate term, since the words Fundamentalist and Fundamentalism come from a very specific _Protestant_ history that American/European's are familiar with; because of this, it's easy for us to tack on the word Fundamentalist.  Since the Islamic religion, Muslim society, and Middle Eastern politics have not branched from "our" Protestant history, it's inapproprite and incorrect to use a Protestant word to identify Islamic people.  I can explain more if you care to hear.


Not to worry Mocknaw, I used Islamist Fundamentalist, not Moslem Fundamentalist. To my knowledge, a Moslem refers to a person who is active in the Islamic faith. I seem to remember the term to be like one who surrenders to god. I have no problem or issue with those people. An Islamist is a person who is following a strict interpetation Islam I believe. In our currect times, I think everyone understands a Islamist to be a person who is using a set of islam principles they have chosen. And for Fundamentalist.... Check definition 2, not definition 1.

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Websters says:

1 a : often capitalized : a movement in 20th century Protestantism emphasizing the literally interpreted Bible as fundamental to Christian life and teaching b : the beliefs of this movement c : adherence to such beliefs
2 : a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles



When I say a Islamist Fundamentalist, I specificly mean a person who is using a portion of the islamic religion to interpeted to support their idea's and actions. Specficly in reguard to not liking Americans, mostly due to the support of Israel.


To quote a bumpersticker I have, "I don't mind God, but his Fan Clubs are killing me"

Edited it cause my quotes got outa hand!
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post Dec 23 2003, 07:18 PM
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OK let's toss in the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, Columbus and his rape of the NEw World, they got him back....they sent home Gonorehea but his crew passed on Syphillis, measles, mumps etc.....hell is Bosnia they are still fighting a war of retribution and paynack that that started in the years when Islam controlled Southern Europe, all of the Mediteranean and Northern Africa.....

There are assholes in every generation, every socio econimic strata and social situation. Throw religion in the mix along with politics and the shit hits the fan.....
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post Dec 23 2003, 09:31 PM
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Nah, you got it all wrong for Eastern Europe Zois. All the Muslims went to Albania when they divided up the old Turkish Empire. The Croats and Serbs are still fighting from when the Croats sided with the Nazis in WW2 to get rid of the Serbs.
Albania wasn't a big enough place for all the Moslem Albanians (big families) so they took over parts of Bosnia and other parts of Serbia. They live in the towns and cities while the Serbs and Croats farmed the land they owned. Now the UN has given them the farm land away from the Serbs and Croats.
This didn't work the first time the British did it in 1919 after WW1!

I got a few relatives still over there....When they stop killing each other.

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post Dec 23 2003, 10:46 PM
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just stated (most times copied and pasted) facts that they didn't like.


Opinions are not facts just because they've been repeated!
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post Dec 23 2003, 10:50 PM
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I see Harry didn't last long. And we didn't even find out what year teener he had. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 23 2003, 10:50 PM
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nope.
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post Dec 23 2003, 10:54 PM
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When I found out what he said in those deleted posts, I decided to bird dog him

I am scanning his ip this instant.


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Nah, you got it all wrong for Eastern Europe Zois. All the Muslims went to Albania when they divided up the old Turkish Empire. The Croats and Serbs are still fighting from when the Croats sided with the Nazis in WW2 to get rid of the Serbs.
Albania wasn't a big enough place for all the Moslem Albanians (big families) so they took over parts of Bosnia and other parts of Serbia. They live in the towns and cities while the Serbs and Croats farmed the land they owned. Now the UN has given them the farm land away from the Serbs and Croats.
This didn't work the first time the British did it in 1919 after WW1!

I got a few relatives still over there....When they stop killing each other.

Geoff

Revisionist History....where you there? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Hey, I thought you were Greek!

Gonna finally try to go over there next year maybe Split or Dubrunik to be on the beach.

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post Dec 24 2003, 03:35 AM
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Bush/Cheney '04: Making the world safe for Halliburton, one country at a time

As far as your tagline Geoff if it weren't Bush/Cheney making the world safe for Haliburton it would be Gore/Liberman making the world safe for Armand Hammer and Occidental... you win some you lose some... I'm an American and a Texan not a Communist.
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post Dec 24 2003, 09:45 AM
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Eddie, come on man.. we can laugh at that.

We can also laugh at John Kerry, for hocking his house, so he can continue his run for loser!

"I ran for President on unsecured credit cards, just like the National Budget!!!"

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post Dec 24 2003, 10:15 AM
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Hey, I thought you were Greek!

Gonna finally try to go over there next year maybe Split or Dubrunik to be on the beach.

Geoff

Greek Grandpappy with a lot of drunk Irishman and belligererent Germans mixed in.... I know that's redundant, but I just consider myself an American with a funny last name and wierd taste in cars.
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I'm an American and a Texan not a Communist.

you forgot the smilie after that line. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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