Where is Ground Connection"B" ? |
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Where is Ground Connection"B" ? |
kenshapiro2002 |
Sep 23 2009, 12:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,443 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Where is the ground numbered #83 (Ground connection "B") on a 1970 914? It's not the one in the rear trunk, and not the one by each headlight. It's the one that grounds all the dash switches, door switches, fan and heater switch, etc.
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SirAndy |
Sep 23 2009, 12:24 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Where is the ground numbered #83 (Ground connection "B") on a 1970 914? It's not the one in the rear trunk, and not the one by each headlight. It's the one that grounds all the dash switches, door switches, fan and heater switch, etc. Behind the dash, drivers side. Unscrew the fuse panel and let it hang down and you should be able to see it. You might have to practice your rubber-neck routine beforehand ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy |
kenshapiro2002 |
Sep 23 2009, 12:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,443 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Great...out to the garage again...slide in backwards...fight the mosquitoes...and clean. If this doesn't do it...wanna buy a car? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)
Where is the ground numbered #83 (Ground connection "B") on a 1970 914? It's not the one in the rear trunk, and not the one by each headlight. It's the one that grounds all the dash switches, door switches, fan and heater switch, etc. Behind the dash, drivers side. Unscrew the fuse panel and let it hang down and you should be able to see it. You might have to practice your rubber-neck routine beforehand ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy |
Cupomeat |
Sep 23 2009, 12:32 PM
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missing my NY 914 in VA Group: Members Posts: 1,338 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Don't give up Ken!!!
Electical problems are only second to oil pressure problems when it comes to frustration. Not only can you figure this out, but once you do, you will feel like you have mastered your car. That is a good feeling. |
kenshapiro2002 |
Sep 23 2009, 12:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,443 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I was just kidding...I am actually having fun. That connection under the fuse box where "Cupofmeat" sent me is where a bunch of red (hot) wires meet up. I'm looking for the connection point for all of the ground wires (brown) convene for the dash electrics.
Don't give up Ken!!! Electical problems are only second to oil pressure problems when it comes to frustration. Not only can you figure this out, but once you do, you will feel like you have mastered your car. That is a good feeling. |
kenshapiro2002 |
Sep 23 2009, 12:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,443 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Ooops...meant Sir Andy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
I was just kidding...I am actually having fun. That connection under the fuse box where "Cupofmeat" sent me is where a bunch of red (hot) wires meet up. I'm looking for the connection point for all of the ground wires (brown) convene for the dash electrics. Don't give up Ken!!! Electical problems are only second to oil pressure problems when it comes to frustration. Not only can you figure this out, but once you do, you will feel like you have mastered your car. That is a good feeling. |
r_towle |
Sep 23 2009, 12:49 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,624 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
its there on the inner fender above the fuse box...its not easy to see.
Its up there pretty high. Rich |
SirAndy |
Sep 23 2009, 12:55 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
its there on the inner fender above the fuse box...its not easy to see. Its up there pretty high. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
Rod |
Sep 23 2009, 12:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 1-January 08 From: Farnham UK Member No.: 8,526 Region Association: England |
Remove speaker housing and heater pipe for easier access iirc.
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kenshapiro2002 |
Sep 23 2009, 12:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,443 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
OK...thanks guys...here I go again.
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markb |
Sep 23 2009, 12:58 PM
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914less :( Group: Members Posts: 5,449 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 180 Region Association: Central California |
There's also one by the relay board in the engine compartment you'll want to clean.
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kenshapiro2002 |
Sep 23 2009, 01:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,443 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Did that one and the one for that battery yesterday. Dremeled all the paint off at the base...coated with dielectric grease, even polished up the washers and nuts (not mine, but close...not much room to work back there).
There's also one by the relay board in the engine compartment you'll want to clean. |
SirAndy |
Sep 23 2009, 01:03 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Don't forget the ground strap on your transmission.
While you're in there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Andy |
kenshapiro2002 |
Sep 23 2009, 01:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,443 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
"While you're in there"? I'm under the dash...how long do you think my arms are? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
Don't forget the ground strap on your transmission. While you're in there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Andy |
Cupomeat |
Sep 23 2009, 01:24 PM
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missing my NY 914 in VA Group: Members Posts: 1,338 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Hey, just remember that there is no "F" in Cup O'Meat!
If you want to know what that is all about check out some of our recent work (as the website is in flux) at http://vimeo.com/channels/cupomeat Knowing how long your arms are, you could probably surf the web while fixing the ground problem on both the gearbox AND the fuse panel. I guess, maybe you need 3 eyes... LOL |
kenshapiro2002 |
Sep 23 2009, 02:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,443 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Watched a bit...still not sure exactly what "Cup O' Meat" is (sorry). Hobby? Business? Art? All three?
Hey, just remember that there is no "F" in Cup O'Meat! If you want to know what that is all about check out some of our recent work (as the website is in flux) at http://vimeo.com/channels/cupomeat Knowing how long your arms are, you could probably surf the web while fixing the ground problem on both the gearbox AND the fuse panel. I guess, maybe you need 3 eyes... LOL |
kenshapiro2002 |
Sep 23 2009, 02:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,443 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
OK...ground connection #83 was not that hard to get to...didn't need to remove the speaker cover or heater hose. It's right on the back of the spot where the reds all came together. It was just hiding from my eyes. It was very clean, but I "worked it" even more. Didn't address my problem. I'll do the tranny ground strap tomorrow, but I;m betting its not the issue, based on the following:
Problem didn't exist when I bought the car two months ago, and didn't surface until I started doing work on the speedo and the brake lights. Evidence suggests It has something to do with either the work I did on the speedo ( wihch included taking off the steering wheel), or the brake lights (they wee not working until I adjusted the brake light switch). Speedo is now out again, and problem still exists. Steering wheel is off and problem still exists. So, when I turn on the ignition, all is quiet. Turning on signals, radio, wipers, headlights, or hitting the brakes, causes the flasher relay thing (rectangular upright thing behind the dash that mounts in the far left recesses of the dash) to chatter at 10x it's normal speed. If I then turn off whatever device caused it to start this chatter, the chatter continues until I turn off the ignition. There must be some evidence in the fact that any electrical load from any switch causes only that flasher to squawk. |
markb |
Sep 23 2009, 02:51 PM
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914less :( Group: Members Posts: 5,449 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 180 Region Association: Central California |
You mention you adjusted the brake light switch. What happens when you unplug it?
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kenshapiro2002 |
Sep 23 2009, 02:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,443 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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SirAndy |
Sep 23 2009, 03:01 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Speedo is now out again, and problem still exists. Steering wheel is off and problem still exists. Take out all gauges, remove the face-plate and inspect the top of the switches. Either something fell on to one and is shorting out a switch or one or more wires got lose when you pulled the speedo the first time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Andy |
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