OT: Saturn no longer a carmaker, and Pluto no longer a planet. |
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OT: Saturn no longer a carmaker, and Pluto no longer a planet. |
flipb |
Oct 1 2009, 10:41 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 10,752 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
The Penske-Saturn deal has fallen through because Penske couldn't find another manufacturer from whom to source cars after 2011.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/30/news/compa...sion=2009093019 Saturn sold some of GM's best products for the US market over the past 15 years (along with some duds too), including perhaps the best daily driver I've ever owned. Damn shame that GM pretty much strangled "the Saturn experiment" in its adolescence. Turning it into Opel's US arm was a promising rebound. Oh well. |
URY914 |
Oct 1 2009, 10:52 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,027 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
So I should cancel my plans for a Saturn powered 914???
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Ferg |
Oct 1 2009, 11:02 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None |
Hype mobiles... I never drank the kool aid, not going to be missed. Kudos to Marketing.
I will give them some credit for starting to swing how customers were treated at dealerships. Ferg |
zymurgist |
Oct 1 2009, 11:35 AM
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"Ace" Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None |
What's the status of Uranus?
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URY914 |
Oct 1 2009, 11:57 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,027 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
What's the status of Uranus? Mine's feelin' fine. Thanks for asking. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
zymurgist |
Oct 1 2009, 12:15 PM
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"Ace" Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None |
Seriously folks... I thought Saturn was a pretty cool name for a car company... but then again, I was a Star Trek geek from an early age and I wanted a Jupiter 8.
(IMG:http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/en/images/2/24/Jupiter_8_ad.jpg) |
Cupomeat |
Oct 1 2009, 12:33 PM
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missing my NY 914 in VA Group: Members Posts: 1,338 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Yes, it was a great name for a car company and the ideas were great, they just failed to produce a quality product that was competitive WITHOUT the gimmick of no haggle pricing.
Besides the Opel stuff of late, I never drove a saturn that was worth anything. Shame on GM for doing this to itself. |
Dr Evil |
Oct 1 2009, 12:46 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,032 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I love my 05 VUE. The engine is Honda, as far as I know, though. 250hp V6 AWD, plastic dent proof body panels.
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zymurgist |
Oct 1 2009, 12:52 PM
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"Ace" Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None |
plastic dent proof body panels Saturn was ahead of the curve with these. I remember when Saturns came out, it was a major selling point. "No more parking lot dings!" Meanwhile, I'm still parking my steel Acura off by itself in the parking lot. Painful memories of a huge dent in the quarter panel of my Neon. |
ruddyboys |
Oct 1 2009, 12:58 PM
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Hummel eigentümer Group: Members Posts: 595 Joined: 3-March 04 From: Monroe, NY Member No.: 1,749 Region Association: North East States |
Had an SW2 with 185,000 and never need any service. It constantly got 40mi/gal, too bad it was ugly.
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jsayre914 |
Oct 1 2009, 01:01 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,199 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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Ferg |
Oct 1 2009, 01:01 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None |
You should see them get bumped in Winter time. I've seen 2 panels nearly explode when it's cold, they shatter.
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zymurgist |
Oct 1 2009, 01:08 PM
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"Ace" Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None |
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Drums66 |
Oct 1 2009, 01:13 PM
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914 Rudiments Group: Members Posts: 5,321 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Coronado,Cali Member No.: 151 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I heard it !......I try not to look at them
especially the litttle fake convertible sports poop. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bs.gif) |
tod914 |
Oct 1 2009, 01:15 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
What's to become of Uranus?
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Drums66 |
Oct 1 2009, 01:20 PM
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914 Rudiments Group: Members Posts: 5,321 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Coronado,Cali Member No.: 151 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Pluto I would miss But............Uranus you can
keep it! LOL |
ericread |
Oct 1 2009, 01:38 PM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
Actually, I'm sadder about losing Pluto as a planet.
I used to teach Astronomy and Physics at a Planetarium in Reno back in the mid-70's. One by one, every thing I used to teach has been disproven (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) As for the POS Saturn I owned for a few years, that thing never did run right. I finally drove it off a cliff (figuratively) when it couldn't meet emission controls and Nevada refused to register it. At least Pluto never cost me any money (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Eric Read |
flipb |
Oct 1 2009, 02:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 10,752 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I bought a new LS1 in its first model year, 2000. This was the mid-size Saturn. (Anybody remember the ads: "The next Big thing from Saturn"?) Ordered it in Silver with black interior, ABS with TCS, sunroof, most options... but stuck with the 137hp 4cyl in order to get a stick. It used a Saab 5-speed transmission from the GM parts bin.
That car gave me virtually no trouble, got 28-32 mpg, handled New England winters incredibly well, and was fun to drive. Not terribly quick, although I once got it to 105 at around 4am on I-95. I let it go after 7 years with 97K miles. Never once left me stranded - even after sitting in a snowy parking lot for 2 weeks. And the seats were all-day comfortable with decent bolstering for a sedan. |
GeorgeRud |
Oct 1 2009, 02:34 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I once rented a Vue, and it seemed to work OK (however an interior trim piece did fall off during the week we had it). I imagine that Penske would have made them better than GM in the long-run. He's not known as a bad businessman, and has certainly earned all the automotive honors that can be earned.
I only wonder why GM decided to kill off the Pontiac brand, and kept Buick? Just wait till we start getting products from the new GM (Government Motors?). I think of all the retired, great engineers that have worked there that must be just shaking their heads in disbelief of what's happening. But then, remember that there were many, many more manufacturers in the early days of automobiles. In the end, only the strong seem to survive. |
URY914 |
Oct 1 2009, 02:43 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,027 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
If the Penske sale had gone thru he who have raced a Saturn at Indy.
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