New to the board. Most of my work and experience is over on Pelican with 911 longhoods. I stalked a local PCA guy who was going to eventually sell his 914-6. No pressure, just every few months I let him know I hadn't forgotten. Finally got a chance to see the car in person three weeks ago. Passenger rocker issues as well as surface bubbling in a number of places. Car had been extensively autocrossed at PCA parades for years...very successfully. Owner had pulled the original 2.0 and replaced with a 2.7 RS spec engine with carbs. He bought another mid-engined car (boxster) and ignored the 6. I bought the car (w/ 2.7) and original engine. Got the 2.7 running well enough to drive the car...and decided to dive into the resto. I am familiar with rust, and plan to do it correctly. I have a rotisserie with 911 mounts, but shouldn't be a big deal to make mounts for the 6. Made a couple calls to Resto Design to check on parts...and away I go. I have a 71 911 softie that has been at paint too long...so while I wait for it to come home, thought I would see what my sandblasters schedule was. Turns out he can do the car in two weeks. So, I have a deadline. So...I guess this is my resto thread on my new Adriatic Blue 6...
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I took a few hours Friday afternoon,a couple yesterday, and a few more today. Almost ready for the blaster
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More later...

Speedo

Wow, way to tackle the car. Looking forward to seeing the in-progress blasting photos.

If you are going to blast the car, please put quality door braces in the car now, before proceeding. Obviously your not new to these cars, but it is a typical mistake folks make. It will insure your door gaps don't move.

Soda or sand? There are arguments for/against both.

Good luck with your resto, and

Looks Nice. Probably too nice for Original Paint. If that was the case, I wouldn't blast

And

Welcome, and wow - looks like this -6 didn't find a new home, it found a three star spa and resort!

Love reading the resto threads, especially when they're done right. I don't have the resources for more than piecemeal progress, but I'll be stealing ideas where I can...

Nice work so far! It will be nice to see this car when done!

Keep the photos coming! There are several Colorado guys here. Also contact Gint. He has a Colorado yahoo list I think.

Actually, it seems this -6 may have found another guardian. Gotta love these old cars.

Wow! Thats a quick start! That rocks!

Good Work Lars!

this is going to be a great thread
This car deserves a taste of your metal skills

brant

Has not changed much since I saw it 20 years ago. San Diego Porsche Parade 1992

I think I have another somewhere from Monterey 1990,

Hi Lars!

Gang, mark this thread, Lars has skills, and this is soon to be a "classic" thread.
Lars, great to see you and the car, going to love watching this one brought back.

Ferg

Love that color!

1st picture of the car show what looks like a trailer hitch or something hang n down for rear bumper ?? what is or was it...

trailer hitch...

very common amongst the autox crowds and DE crowds
usually for towing a very small dolly-trailer loaded with Yokohama 008R's


brant

Wow, fast tear down ! Looks like this one should be rescued quickly

sixnotfour,
Wow! That's the car alright! No, not much has changed. There is a little rust at the top rear of the drivers fender by the bonnet and in your pic I can almost see it! And it was missing the front bumper top rubber trim 20 years ago. Thanks a bunch for posting. I will do the car justice. I picked up the square stock for the door jam braces today. I'll post better pics of the good, the bad and the ugly. This car (in terms of what I normally drag home) is in much better shape (at the outset).
I will start to accumulate a list of needs...like to swap the later wrong rear bumper for a 1970 right bumper. Did any of the early 6s that were not GTs ever have 2 in 2 out sport exhausts? If I am out of line (purists) with the muffler...just shut me down. I make nice 2 in 2 out sport exhausts for my 911s.


Speedo

What a great "find". Really paid off to stay on the seller's radar.

Congrats and welcome!

Is the mirror in your "before" picture the same as the one it had in the 20 years ago shot?

One of my favorite colors.

not from the factory, but many many have had that added.
Here is my dads from 1977 it has had a home made one. (i have the -6 still) And I have the big rear valance drilled for the sport pipe.

Can't wait to seel the build. Is the 2.0 or 2.7 going back in to start with?

I am going to pickle the correct 2.0 and store it...sorry for the PMs about parting with the original engine. I will do a leakdown and a top-end probably on the 2.7. The engine was having a hard time transitioning from idles to main jets. I blew the jets and added clean gas, but it still wanted to stay under 2500-3000 rpm. I will likely keep the carbs on the 2.7 and rebuild them (as I am a carb guy), but I also have a 2.4 S MFI setup as an option.
Yeah that POS aftermarket mirror was on the car when I bought it...actually it was one of the first things I took off the car. Why to people yank nice OEM mirrors and put $7.99 Pep Boys mirrors on their cars? Brant and ferg came up to look at the car after I brought it home and noticed a bunch of things about the car that were not correct (read funky). Here are some better pics of what I have to work with. Damn...sorry about the sideways pics. I tried to rotate them before posting, but they didn't stay that way. Still getting used to the posting format.
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Couple more...the hell hole. Hopefully after blasting doesn't turn into the "hell holes" or the "never ending hell chasm".
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The PO ( or the shop the PO hired) took the induction off the 2.0 and bolted it onto the 2.7, there is nothing special here. In fact it really would benefit from being cleaned up.
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The 2.7 needs a makeover...here is the fresh stroked 2.2 w/ rebuilt Zeniths waiting for the 71 911 softie to come back from paint
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I am going to ditch (store) the stock aircleaners and go with rainshields or K and Ns. In fact, it might make sense to put the stock induction (shroud, dizzie, fan and alt, carbs, air cleaner etc) back onto the 2.0 to keep it original, and run a good rebuilt set of 40 IDAs on the 2.7 with another shroud-dizzie etc.
I need a couple afternoons this week to make some more headway.
BTW...Ferg and Brant started to explain what size fuchs I can run without spacers...and I don't remember what they said. I have factory deep sixes, 15x6s and 15x7s. I was hoping to run 15x6s or 7s with just a bit of negative camber. Will I have clearance issues with 205 50s?

Speedo

I know sixes fit the fenders ok with 205s. Not sure about sevens.

I didn't even know the deep six was made in 7". What year and model did they come on? Love that beautiful engine BTW.

That is a nice shell!

pull that oil tank before it goes to the blaster...
you can't run the risk of anything contaminating it

More prepping for sandblaster. Removing the oil tank...how come nobody warned me about this? What a mother! All the inside fittings were a piece of cake. The bottom oil line is close to impossible to get off while the oil tank is under the fender. I was going to dremel the line off, as it was the only thing prohibiting the tank from being removed...but I'd hate to find out after the fact that it was one of "those" lines that are beaucoup expensive. Impossible to get a wrench up in there to get the fitting off. I managed to get the thing out...
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This was the culprit
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Gutted the rest of the engine compartment and found more not so great hell hole news...no big deal, I sort of expected it.
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Ground out the old battery mount. It was actually factory steel, but a hack job of installation
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Oh well...resto-des has all my parts
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The 15x7 Fuch that looks just like a deep 6" was used on the rear of the 911R. An original would be much more valuable and rare than a deep 6". Most of the 7R wheels out there were welded up from a deep 6 and a donor wheel. I forget the offset, maybe 49mm, but it pushes most of the wheel inboard so a 205 tire can be tucked under the narrow flares of an early SWB 911.

Moving on...This all obviously is bye bye
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I attacked the floor sound insulation as I figured the sandblaster wasn't going to be able to blast through it. There is a technique. The floors are oxcidized, but I think they will blast clean. Must have been 15-20 lbs of this stuff.
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This area is all bagged up and ready to go
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My Porsche pickup truck...
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Speedo

Great progress !

Wow I am really going to enjoy watching this build. We now have two sixes that are starting rebuild and/or restoration at about the same time. This will be fun. But at the speed your moving yours will be back on the road long before mine.

Nice job....
time to cut that front fender off...
its a pain in the butt...
(I remember from when the race car got tagged by the miata)

Looking good !!!!

Ok Brant...
Marching orders...cut the bad out before the sandblaster. So I have two specific areas that are going to need to be very exposed to the media (not the paparazzi).
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I need to cut back on the tail of the fender to clean up what is underneath....mark and cut
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The damage is worse than was apparent from the first pic...but not so bad from here. We'll wait to see what things look like back from the blaster

One more view of the perforations in the lip next to the bonnet
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Now on to the quarter panel...that by the way is in decent shape. So yes, I am going to hack off a perfectly good quarter panel, just to gain access...and give the sandblaster access to the hell hole. First cut is the deepest...
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What have I done???
This will get blasted better and more deeply. We'll get good access to the hell hole and inner fender.
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So the car is ready to be loaded up. I disassembled the pedal cluster to add to the small parts box to include to get blasted. Wiring harness is taped off and I didn't bother to protect the original palstic fuel lines as they will be yanked and replaced with steel once the car is back and on the rotisserie. Here we go...

you're moving much too fast to be a real 914 guy...
all this in 2 weeks and the thing isn't on jack stands yet

you need to slow down for a year or two if you want to be a true teener fan....

Packed up and ready to go. Trunk is full of small parts (pedal cluster, light bucket assembly, engine tin and linkages) that will get plated or powdercoated later.
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I have 5 days before it comes home to sort through the pile of disassembled parts, and evaluate save-repair-replace. I will be looking for a referral for seat upholstery, rubber seal set and minutia like winshield clips. I have access to a local shell for body parts when it comes back blasted and I can see just what I need. I also need to bring the rotisserie back home and make the fittings for the ends of the car...unless someone local to Denver has a pair that will fit my yokes. Good kharma when I dropped the car at the blaster this am...a 914 shell was all freshly blasted sitting there...someone local on the board?

Yo, you get my email? Parts and books in truck if you are not up Mtn yet.

I wanna visit when it comes back.

Ferg

This thing done yet? What's the holdup Lars?

His painter

Painters are all like that!!

I want to see it when it comes back too...


also I need some tall sidewall 14 inch rims with crappy roller narrow/tall tires to use in the trailer (to clear the ramp in and out..)

are you going to sell those wheels on the car?

I was going to use the wheels as rollers to get through the project and then make them go away. In the near term Brant, call me and I can hook you up with a set with tires on them...tall narrow and nicely patina-ed (dry rotted)...but they still hold air.
BTW...when you an Ferg came up, you said the muffler wasn't correct? Is that true? I wouldn't know the difference between a 911 muffler and a 914 muffler. Can someone please school me?

Speedo

I don't know how to tell the mufflers apart visually...
the only difference is the angle of the tail pipe...
you should be able to cut and weld your tail pipe to fit the early 914/6 valance (that you don't have yet)

here is one thread:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho.../6+rear+valance

regarding wheels
are steelies affordable these days ?
all I'm looking for are roller wheels with "patina" and cheap...
in fact 15 inch anythings... would give me more ground clearance than 14's
brant

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Spent a couple hours going through by baggies of parts and organizing. The chain cover housings on the 2.0 which is getting "pickled" needed a couple studs (missing) so I decided to pull them off to do a repair correctly. Looking at the lip for attacching the sheet metal ...and what do you know? That battery acid is tough stuff!
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It ate right though the lip...damn!
I have extra covers, so when I removed it to to the stud replacement, I noticed these...
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Race tensioners...or solid tensioners...whatever. Interesting. The PO flogged this thing regularly...not on the track, but as I mentioned in auto cross. And the underside is cone dented in many places as testament. I will show the carnage when it is floating on the rotisserie. Notwithstanding...when I eventually go through the 2.0, I will be curious to see what tweeks the engine experienced over it's life. Same to be said for t-bars and springs etc. Anyway...interesting to see the tensioners. Shows me the PO went through a lot of valve cover gaskets while adjusting those puppies.