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Mark Henry
Was going to mention this in the LED headlight thread but then thought it may be a hijack.
The BusDepot has good deals on the Cibie E-code copy ($35/pr) or Hella E-codes ($70/pr) plus bulbs.

http://www.busdepot.com/nl910ch4/

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rfinegan
I have Cebie E codes and they are AWESOME. Hardly ever turn on my fog lights any more as they light up the sides so well

-Robert
Mark Henry
I have a set of real Cibie e codes but they have a bit of rust in the bottoms, don't think anything can be done about that. sad.gif
gandalf_025
I have a set of Cibe Z Beams that have been on my car since the 70's
They have some rust on the reflectors also. I bought a set of cheap
copies and may see if there is a way to swap original lenses onto new reflectors....
Haven't attempted it yet....
Minerva's 914
I carefully opened up my Cibe' set and sanded the light rust and then painted them with silver/chrome paint and reassembled after softening the seals with WD-40 then cleaning and so far no problems, no leaks

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bandjoey
What's the difference in bulbs? Extra dollar for German bulbs?
larryM
QUOTE(bandjoey @ Jun 27 2016, 05:51 PM) *

What's the difference in bulbs? Extra dollar for German bulbs?


great deal on the cibies &/or the hella's

ignore the offered bulbs

- get some 90/100 Watt "offroad" bulbs if you want serious light
Shadowfax
Thanks for the heads up. Ordered a pair of Hella E-codes. aktion035.gif
maf914
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Mark, Thanks for the heads up on the headlights. While on the Bus Depot site I checked on their ignition switches which they claim are German made. I wonder if that is correct and if worth ordering a couple. Are you familiar with these? Thanks.

http://www.busdepot.com/171905865

Sorry for the hijack. rolleyes.gif
green914
Thanks for sharing the info - looks like a very good deal. piratenanner.gif piratenanner.gif piratenanner.gif
19732.0
Can the standard 55/60 watt bulbs really be used without adding relays?
bandjoey
QUOTE(19732.0 @ Jun 28 2016, 01:02 PM) *

Can the standard 55/60 watt bulbs really be used without adding relays?


or is there a slightly larger bulb that will plug and play? like a 75w without adding wiring? an LED H4 bulb?
Mark Henry
QUOTE(19732.0 @ Jun 28 2016, 02:02 PM) *

Can the standard 55/60 watt bulbs really be used without adding relays?


Yes, but anything bigger will need a relay(s).
Might be wrong but for the 90/100w I think you would need 4 SPDT 5-pin relays, 2 (hi-low) for each side. I'd get the 40amp relays and I would also get the matching sockets to make a clean install. You can get these at many FLAPS, off of amazon I think they're about $7ea with sockets. The relay must have five terminals labeled 85, 86, 30, 87, and 87a, these relays are a common bosch copy. If they are not marked with the numbers above they're likely the wrong relay.

Also note that bigger than the 55/60 is actually not DOT legal and I'd never use bigger than the 55/60 in a plastic light housing. I believe the ones in this thread are all glass or glass/metal.
bandjoey
I ordered the Hella set. Will post pics when they get here.
Mark Henry
On the relays, bit more expensive route but more correct looking is to use the Porsche round relays. They are the same relay, 911 615 109-01.
You can get press in sockets from vendors like pelican or the popup light relays from a couple of donor cars.
toolguy
Note. . Oppps. . I thought we were talking about fog lights. .
headlights already have individual wires but the wattage of USA sealed beams are generally 55/60 watts. . therefore since they have individual fuses and wires no need to double the amps up. . but the wires still need to handle 100 watts each or 16 gauge at the minimum . The factory wire is 1.5mm which is 16 gauge so you're right at the limit of the wire. .


American Wire Gauge (AWG) needed
Amps @ 12 Volts
LENGTH OF WIRE

A 3' 5' 7' 10' 15' 20' 25'
1 18 18 18 18 18 18 18
2 18 18 18 18 18 18 18
3 18 18 18 18 18 18 18
4 18 18 18 18 18 18 18
5 18 18 18 18 18 18 18
6 18 18 18 18 18 18 16
7 18 18 18 18 18 18 16
8 18 18 18 18 18 16 16
10 18 18 18 18 16 16 14

eric9144
QUOTE(toolguy @ Jun 29 2016, 01:45 PM) *

Don't forget the factory wiring is a single lead which is jumpered over from the drivers light to the passenger light.. The factory lights were 35w or 45 w bulbs. Therefore the lead from the factory relay to the drivers side light carries double the watts/amps. At 12vdc and 100 watt bulbs, that is right at 8.5 amps. . . . double that for two lights and your at 17 amps; which requires a minimum of 16 gauge wire to go 7 feet or 14 gauge to go further. You'd be better off to run 2 16 gauges - one to each light .Of you use a single relay it would need to accommodate a minimum of 20 amps.. . The really safe bet is to use two standard relays, each with it's separate circuit to the lights. Both relays powered by a single isolated circuit 20 amp fuse.

...and that's why I went LED. These are a great deal, but I didn't want to do any mods to the wiring harness etc no matter how minor.
Cuda911
Thanks for the info, Mark, I just ordered two sets of them.
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