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flmont
I hope to turn this 914 into a 300 HP sports car !!Click to view attachment
brant
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flmont
Rear trunk is in nice shape it will be getting painted guards red,Click to view attachment
Mueller
Should be fun!

I hope you still plan on adding radiator exhaust holes in the front trunk, those vents won't work alone that you have for the hood.
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Scratch HOPE and replace with Blood, sweat & tears. av-943.gif Press on. popcorn[1].gif
whitetwinturbo
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flmont
Yes ,I plan to do a much larger area on the hood,or maybe a diffant style altogether Iam just sizing those up,..rad system in place already, I need to install the gas tank ( I need the line fittings yet) I need the radiator and engine cooling hoses,. the engine cradle that's (in work), and ECU finalized,.then fuel pump, ETC..
Chris H.
Nice! Looks like Frank has mastered posting pics! Another 3.3 conversion will be cool. I'm about to go take a lap in mine in the cool air.

A "cradle" would have to be custom made because it's tough to work it around the exhaust system. Pretty much the only Subaru engine I've seen that has that issue. I can send you some pics of my engine mount setup. Bigkat made it. Mine is an early -4 mount up front with some L shaped angled pieces welded to it and trans hangers at the back. The middle is wide open. Key is you have to have a really good welder attach the additional pieces and they have to be VERY strong metal. Most of the weight of the engine is up front. Mine's been hanging in there for 3 years.
flmont
Hi Chris,..Iam going the smallcar route I think,..get there side pieces,.then weld the cross bar to match,..
flmont
I do need help with the fuel tank set-up I have new stainless steel lines installed but I don't have the fittings for the tank,..?? Suggestions Pls,...
Chris H.
You have stainless lines from Tangerine Racing? You can use rubber (or whatever it's made of) fuel injection hose to connect to the tank. That looks like a later car so both lines should be the same size. 8mm, so I think that's 5/16 at the local auto parts store. Just make sure it's HIGH PRESSURE fuel hose.

Unless you bought the ones with the screw-type AN fittings on the ends? If so post pics of what you have and where you got it.
flmont
No,..not from Tangerine,..P.O installed them ,.I will get pics for tomorrow,...Thanks
flmont
these are the fittings I have ??


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JustinMeier
Ooooooo... Can I come help?

Problem is that I'm gone a lot of weekends but feel free to coordinate with me if you need some help shades.gif
Chris H.
That's it? Just the tank fittings? No tunnel lines or anything? One is stock, the other is an -AN fitting. Really should go one way or the other. Let us know and we'll go from there.
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Pm Bruce Stone (Bdstone) to get the correct fitting. Rotary914 has the washers. So your going to run the pump exposed? Walbro? Some of the Suby stock pumps are Walbro.
914forme
I'm curious about the 300HP, not sure how an EG will get you there in a stock form. Now if you do a few tricks, proper headers, cams, E85, boost happy11.gif then we get closer to 300. The last one will get you well above 300.

That being said I have tabled my power plans to blow the EG. I was going to run a blower an E85. After this weekend and not finding E85 on the roads around Okteenerfest. I really don't want to haul around a truck bed full of E85 just to be able to go driving.gif

So if you got a way of getting 300+ HP, I will be popcorn[1].gif



Even if you don't I'll be popcorn[1].gif

Another EG33 build aktion035.gif
flmont
Well, I only say 300 HP,..because I have heard u can,..the only mods I will do is new injectors,and the ZF34 mod,.and maybe cams in the future,..
flmont
when it comes to the gas tank fittings,.I don't know what to use,..the PO had this set up,..I need to know what to do,.??
flmont
Sorry Chris,..yes I have tunnel lines 2 ea,installed.I belive 1 will be blocked off due to no return line right.??
914forme
QUOTE(flmont @ Sep 29 2016, 08:14 PM) *

Well, I only say 300 HP,..because I have heard u can,..the only mods I will do is new injectors,and the ZF34 mod,.and maybe cams in the future,..


You will need to modify the injection also, with a chip / returne to use the mods you listed. Enjoy
flmont
Yes,..once I get it to move down the street,.I will then ( if I have the $$$) go after those mod's...
Chris H.
QUOTE(flmont @ Sep 29 2016, 07:18 PM) *

Sorry Chris,..yes I have tunnel lines 2 ea,installed.I belive 1 will be blocked off due to no return line right.??


No you definitely need a return line with the EG33. It has fuel injection just like the stock 914, in fact it operates at a higher pressure (not much). Post pics of your tunnel lines in the fuel tank area and at the engine bay area (front and back). Very important that we see the gas tank end to see if they have AN fittings or not. Also need to see if they are steel or just the standard plastic.

flmont
They are steel and no fittings attached at all,..either end he just ran the lines,..did the peddel cluster rebuild,.and stopped,..then I bought her,...Pic's in the AM.!!
Chris H.
That's good. Then you probably want do what Kent said and replace that threaded fitting on your tank with another stock one. Bruce Stone or Garold Shaffer are good sources for that. Then you can use high pressure fuel injection hoses up front to connect to the fuel lines in the tunnel (both should be 5/16 from a FLAPS). The fuel pump mounts up front under the tank too if you use the Walbro like I did. Fits well in the stock location.

Post some pics anyway just so we see what you have for tunnel lines.
914forme
Going AN has it's place, but it gets expensive very quickly. Read lots of $$$$$ to do correctly and for a street car, it is way over kill.

Tangerine racing carries the fuel strainer sock if you need it.

Good luck with the build, one other thing you might want to consider is engine seals. It is a lot easier to do these while out of the car. In a 914 it is easier than doing them in the SVX. I know this from experience headbang.gif
flmont
front sectionClick to view attachment
flmont
rear linesClick to view attachment
flmont
Thanks 914forme,..I wasnt sure I needed it,..how is it installed,..??
flmont
spoke to soon,...I ck'd website..its the fuel screen, correct,..????
914forme
Yes the fuel screen, they get crude up, easy enough to check if you need one. All you need is hose, like Chris suggested. And a new fitting for under the tank.

BTW, the small car mount is available as just the mounts - just have to call them. It is what I used on mine. First version as a -4 style using early -4 bar. Second version went to the firewall. Like a Patric Motorsports -6 mount. It is a -6 after all. Makes it easier to get the clearance to put the EG in with out cutting the trunk. Chris did the flipped manifold on his conversion. I had room but never do anything the easy way. :headband:

Also you might want to take a die and run it down the outside of the lines. Gives the hose a little something to grab onto. They just have to be roughed up a bit. Most people don't have beading tools to make them proper. shades.gif
Chris H.
Yeps those ARE Tangerine Racing tunnel fuel lines. Good news there. The Walbro pump mounts up front in the stock location as I mentioned. 5/16 high pressure FI hose...get plenty so you can leave some slack if you want to pull the tank up without undoing the lines.

Got your PM, I will send some pics of my mount setup. The -6 mount setup is a great way also. Even more room.
flmont
Ahh,..I didnt think of roughing the lines,..But I will for sure now,..I do intend to flip the intake,..the guy from the svx site is making spacers again ,..So Iam waiting for him,.. to get a set,...
flmont
who makes the -6 mount,..I would at least look at it..??
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QUOTE(914forme @ Oct 2 2016, 10:52 AM) *



Also you might want to take a die and run it down the outside of the lines. Gives the hose a little something to grab onto. They just have to be roughed up a bit. Most people don't have beading tools to make them proper. shades.gif

You can also barely flare the end of the tube in lieu of a bead. Barely being the operative word here. beerchug.gif
flmont
Here is my next major issue some ends are terminated and some are not,..I really need a plug and play harness,..But, I also want to try and pin my original chassis harness to accept parts of this SVX harness is that even possible ?? Click to view attachment wacko.gif
mepstein
For about $600, my guy made a plug and play harness for my svx harness and the fan on the radiator
flmont
I would love that info pls,...Thanks FM
flmont
where can I get the engine and tranny mounts needed for my 3.3 conversion,..they used to be called sport mounts but I just see regular engine mounts listed on pelican,..?? TIA, FM
flmont
Ok,..I have the fuel tank fitting's on the way Thanks BDstone...Now when I was taking off the the old fitting it was hard to turn,.so I WD-40 it for about 5 days ,.then it twisted off,.but it wasn't really threaded on all the way ,..so when I install my newer fittings do they screw on easy or are they suppose to have some resistance?? I don't want to strip those threads tank or fittings..TIA FM
flmont
Also engine brackets will be here next week,.(small car)So I can stage the engine ,..sent harness out to be terminated,hopefully back in a month,!!!
flmont
Ok,..the next set of questions now

A.can I use a straight shifting tube from tangerine,.as in the 914-6 shifting tube,..

B. safest way to check fuel flow once the tank and pump are set-up

C. and can I make my own intake spacers,so I can flip my intake..??
mepstein
You really decide on the shift tube once the engine and trans are in the car and the headers are mounted on the engine. Then you can tell what shape your shift rod will need to be. Trying to guess before you have the 3D picture will be a waste of time. Same with the exhaust. Until the engine is mounted in the car, you don't really know what you need.
mgp4591
And you're not using a Subaru trans? confused24.gif
flmont
correct no Suby trans..
flmont
OK Thanks Mepstein,..hope to have it all mocked up or placed within 2 weeks..Thanks FM
Chris H.
QUOTE(flmont @ Oct 17 2016, 09:08 PM) *

Ok,..the next set of questions now

A.can I use a straight shifting tube from tangerine,.as in the 914-6 shifting tube,..

B. safest way to check fuel flow once the tank and pump are set-up

C. and can I make my own intake spacers,so I can flip my intake..??


Frank, you don't need a shift rod with a subaru trans. It uses cables.

I wouldn't worry about checking fuel flow until the engine is installed. It's a pretty simple system. Trust me, you will hear the pump running when you turn the key. The fuel flow is regulated by the pressure regulator on the fuel rail so there's not much point in measuring the flow if it's not hooked up to the engine.

I didn't need spacers to flip my intake and neither did George. Phenolic spacers aren't super easy to make but I bet someone here could make them.
flmont
Hi Chris,..I was curious if I could use a 914-6 straight shift rod,..don't the -6 use the 901 tranny ??,..

how many hours does it take to flip the intake,..?? TIA Frank


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QUOTE(flmont @ Oct 17 2016, 09:50 PM) *

correct no Suby trans..

Mistake!
Chris H.
Frank,

It takes (at least) a few hours and a lot of patience to flip the intake. ThePaintedMan's thread shows some very good tips and tricks. I removed some of the small vacuum lines that were interfering with the flip and replaced them with soft lines to make it easier. I also rerouted the fuel lines a bit.

The cost of using a 901 trans is almost the same as a Subaru 5MT, and the 5MT shifts like a modern car. It also bolts right up to the EG33. With a 901 you have to get an adapter plate, and sometimes modify the linkage. The 901 is a fine trans and I'd use it with anything I could bolt it right up to, but not with an adapter. Too many other options these days. You do have to install a hydraulic clutch but that is well documented here.
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