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mb911
I know not a 914 but hard to pass up an all original 88 944 for 600.00

He is out there now cleaning.Click to view attachment
Tom_T
If it runs for $600 Ben, then it's a steal for a great handling little Porsche! piratenanner.gif

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Tom
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bretth
Nice. Always loved the phone dials on the 944.
914Sixer
88 is a good year for 944's. $600 is even better
mb911
QUOTE(Tom_T @ Mar 10 2018, 01:55 PM) *

If it runs for $600 Ben, then it's a steal for a great handling little Porsche! piratenanner.gif

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Tom
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We will see if it runs.. It hasn't moved in about 10 years.. It had no gas when stored(outside) so who knows..
dr914@autoatlanta.com
they drive great and are a real bargain these days. Too bad so many were abused and now we have straight rust free bodies that need everything else, and 944 parts are not cheap, AND Porsche is discontinuing all of the parts, cannot even get a front usa turn signal lens or a right rear tail light!!!!! Still a bargain if everything is there, I have been driving an 85.2 automatic for the last month or so to keep my 914 out of the rain we have here all winter!
iwanta914-6
Since my dad's first Porsche was a 1987 944 Turbo, or 951 if you prefer, I've always had a soft spot in my heart for them. As much as I want to get a 914, I may have to "settle" for a 944 if I find a decent one. I of course regret not buying my dad's when he "upgraded" to a 993 cab.

Congrats to your son!
cal44
I've watch 944's time and time again out corner 911's. Well balanced and a little brute of an engine.
poorsche914
My son's first car was an '83 944 inherited from MY dad dry.gif
Took about $1000 or so to get it roadworthy. He drove the wheels off it for a couple years til an oil seal went out and got into the coolant. Decided it was too costly to repair so sold the car.

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Dion
Congrats to your son! I’m actually looking for a decent one now
for my son. My Uncle had a 944S back in the day. 16 valve is what I believe the S
Model had. Good luck.
mb911
Might drain gas tomorrow and throw a battery in it quick tomorrow and see what we have..
billh1963
QUOTE(iwanta914-6 @ Mar 10 2018, 05:26 PM) *

Since my dad's first Porsche was a 1987 944 Turbo, or 951 if you prefer, I've always had a soft spot in my heart for them. As much as I want to get a 914, I may have to "settle" for a 944 if I find a decent one. I of course regret not buying my dad's when he "upgraded" to a 993 cab.

Congrats to your son!


Damn.....you still haven't bought a Porsche? lol-2.gif
mepstein
Len Commings / Boxter GT, has a crapload of 944 parts at his shop. Rob at DC Automotive does too. Call them if you need something specific.
hockeymutt
Always been on the hunt for 944 turbo. My dad had a 944 when I was growing up never ran and turned into a planter
theer
My son’s first car was/is an $800 ‘86 944. It’s a great little car. Handles really well, not too much power, with an LSD and snow tires, it even makes a decent winter car.

Good luck with it. There’s a lot of 944 guys over at Pelican. Also, check out Clark’s Garage for how-to’s on just about everything that can be fixed. Porsche sold a lot of these, so parts are still out there.
EdwardBlume
smilie_pokal.gif Congratulations!

Time to rent 16 Candles.
Coondog
QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Mar 10 2018, 03:24 PM) *

they drive great and are a real bargain these days. Too bad so many were abused and now we have straight rust free bodies that need everything else, and 944 parts are not cheap, AND Porsche is discontinuing all of the parts, cannot even get a front usa turn signal lens or a right rear tail light!!!!! Still a bargain if everything is there, I have been driving an 85.2 automatic for the last month or so to keep my 914 out of the rain we have here all winter!




Dude, you still don’t have a 914....... poke.gif poke.gif OMG start a Go Fund Me Account, I will put in the first $ 20.00 bucks..... lol-2.gif
mb911
QUOTE(Edward Blume @ Mar 11 2018, 04:54 AM) *

smilie_pokal.gif Congratulations!

Time to rent 16 Candles.



I will definitely tell him about the movie.. He was suprised to see how expensive the car was new.. Waaay more then his 04 civic dd.. He mentioned that it still has current styling not like my 914.... He has a few things to learn..
EdwardBlume
QUOTE(mb911 @ Mar 11 2018, 05:17 AM) *

QUOTE(Edward Blume @ Mar 11 2018, 04:54 AM) *

smilie_pokal.gif Congratulations!

Time to rent 16 Candles.



I will definitely tell him about the movie.. He was suprised to see how expensive the car was new.. Waaay more then his 04 civic dd.. He mentioned that it still has current styling not like my 914.... He has a few things to learn..



Best Film Moment Ever
EdwardBlume
QUOTE(Edward Blume @ Mar 11 2018, 05:26 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Mar 11 2018, 05:17 AM) *

QUOTE(Edward Blume @ Mar 11 2018, 04:54 AM) *

smilie_pokal.gif Congratulations!

Time to rent 16 Candles.



I will definitely tell him about the movie.. He was suprised to see how expensive the car was new.. Waaay more then his 04 civic dd.. He mentioned that it still has current styling not like my 914.... He has a few things to learn..



Best Film Moment Ever

Where's my manners?
EdwardBlume
QUOTE(Edward Blume @ Mar 11 2018, 05:31 AM) *

QUOTE(Edward Blume @ Mar 11 2018, 05:26 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Mar 11 2018, 05:17 AM) *

QUOTE(Edward Blume @ Mar 11 2018, 04:54 AM) *

smilie_pokal.gif Congratulations!

Time to rent 16 Candles.



I will definitely tell him about the movie.. He was suprised to see how expensive the car was new.. Waaay more then his 04 civic dd.. He mentioned that it still has current styling not like my 914.... He has a few things to learn..



Best Film Moment Ever

Where's my manners?



This single moment in film (and the Dr.s' World HQ for the 85.5 automatic) probably gave the model some lift on the used side in the 90s and 00s.

Didn't remember the Dad flipping the WS sign though... av-943.gif
ConeDodger
That was Nicho’s first car too. His is an 85.2 in Guards Red. Needs some little things and I’ve helped with that. I called in a favor with my upholstery guy, and his interior is perfect as long as you keep the dash cover on. We’re going to be learning how to paint soon as rubbing and buffing didn’t revive the paint. After some tuning and fuel pressure work, runs like a top.
He says he got the 944 bug from riding in my 944 S2. Thing is, I only had it for 8 months. I bought it for $3500 and flipped for $14,000. Guy who sold it to me called a year later and asked if I’d sell it back, said he didn’t know the S2 was special. You never know what catches a kids eye. We were talking about ‘why a 944’ one day and I mentioned 16 Candles. He said “Molly Ringwald is a local you know.” (Sacramento) biggrin.gif
gandalf_025
The closest thing to a 600.00 Porsche would be
a FREE Boat......
JRust
I picked up a 944 turbo that had been in a wreck. Only 68k on it so couldn't pass it up. After seeing how much work he front end will take to make right. I'm looking for a nice roller to put it in. Wish I would ave just waited instead. May just sell it to get my money back. LOL! 944 is a good car & I had been watching for a while. We'll see what happens but great ride for your son. Get the timing belt done asap
mb911
QUOTE(JRust @ Mar 11 2018, 07:34 AM) *

I picked up a 944 turbo that had been in a wreck. Only 68k on it so couldn't pass it up. After seeing how much work he front end will take to make right. I'm looking for a nice roller to put it in. Wish I would ave just waited instead. May just sell it to get my money back. LOL! 944 is a good car & I had been watching for a while. We'll see what happens but great ride for your son. Get the timing belt done asap



Yup belt will be done once we get it running..
GeorgeRud
Looks like a great deal and nice to see your boy continuing the Porsche enthusiasm (though I couldn’t imagine him not becoming an enthusiast in your household)!
mb911
QUOTE(GeorgeRud @ Mar 11 2018, 08:52 AM) *

Looks like a great deal and nice to see your boy continuing the Porsche enthusiasm (though I couldn’t imagine him not becoming an enthusiast in your household)!



George,

He had considered buying a firebird, buick reatta, mr2, dodge stealth. Datson 280, all in the same price range with more rust, missing allot of parts or engines,etc.. I am not sure if it has bit him yet but will for sure once it starts..fingers crossed.
914-300Hemi
Congrats on a great find and first Porsche.
mb911
Minor update is replaced fuel line from tank to fuel pump.. Not ideal I am sure the factory piece is formed but we were trying to get it to fire up.. Good news is the engine turns over, has spark, and compression.. Now need to buy a battery as was just using jumper cables.. Then check all connections and try to get fuel pump to turn on..
Mueller
Cool score, if time, money and space ever permits I'd like to get a 944 as well.
mb911
Well yesterday went to the zoo with the younger kids so my 17 year decided to pull the reference and speed sensors and broke them.. Oh well thats how he will learn and then took the injectors out so we could soak them in seafoam.. Also proceeded to pull the tank metal threaded bung out with the tank screen. Now I need to find a bonding agent for plastic to metal that is impervious to gas.. Any suggestions?

Oh also the lug nuts decenegrated on 2 lugs and not sure how to deal with that one.. Just yet..its fun none the less.

Also considering buying a lift. This will free up some space.
GeorgeRud
It’s always good to catch Porsche fever at a young age!Click to view attachment
theer
QUOTE(mb911 @ Mar 19 2018, 06:32 PM) *

Well yesterday went to the zoo with the younger kids so my 17 year decided to pull the reference and speed sensors and broke them.. Oh well thats how he will learn and then took the injectors out so we could soak them in seafoam.. Also proceeded to pull the tank metal threaded bung out with the tank screen. Now I need to find a bonding agent for plastic to metal that is impervious to gas.. Any suggestions?

Oh also the lug nuts decenegrated on 2 lugs and not sure how to deal with that one.. Just yet..its fun none the less.

Also considering buying a lift. This will free up some space.


In reverse order:

Lift: Do it. 4-post, 2-post, mid rise - each have their merits. All help immensely.

Lug nuts: the stock lugs are super light weight alloy, but start flaking apart after too many years of neglect. Use a smaller size 6-point socket and bash it on then carefully, slowly loosen. Do this by hand, no air guns! Then go buy the steel replacements for $2/pc.

Gas tank: your FLAPS sells gas-tank specific epoxy. But you may want to buy a complete unit from the 944 world out there.

Speed and crank sensors: these can be tricky (and expensive). They look identical, but are not interchangeable. Also, they need to be installed with proper spacing, etc. I might have a set, if you are interested.

On the fuel pump: try powering directly to see if it works. Mine was jammed, but I was able to get it going with carb cleaner and running it backward & forward. Works fine now. If the fuel pump works, try a new DME relay. I might have one of these, too.

Good luck!
Tom

PS: my daughter’s first car was a POS Reatta, my son’s a POS 944. Reatta was cool & unique, but an electronics nightmare. 944 is a better choice if you have to work on it.
mb911
QUOTE(theer @ Mar 19 2018, 07:11 PM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Mar 19 2018, 06:32 PM) *

Well yesterday went to the zoo with the younger kids so my 17 year decided to pull the reference and speed sensors and broke them.. Oh well thats how he will learn and then took the injectors out so we could soak them in seafoam.. Also proceeded to pull the tank metal threaded bung out with the tank screen. Now I need to find a bonding agent for plastic to metal that is impervious to gas.. Any suggestions?

Oh also the lug nuts decenegrated on 2 lugs and not sure how to deal with that one.. Just yet..its fun none the less.

Also considering buying a lift. This will free up some space.


In reverse order:

Lift: Do it. 4-post, 2-post, mid rise - each have their merits. All help immensely.

Lug nuts: the stock lugs are super light weight alloy, but start flaking apart after too many years of neglect. Use a smaller size 6-point socket and bash it on then carefully, slowly loosen. Do this by hand, no air guns! Then go buy the steel replacements for $2/pc.

Gas tank: your FLAPS sells gas-tank specific epoxy. But you may want to buy a complete unit from the 944 world out there.

Speed and crank sensors: these can be tricky (and expensive). They look identical, but are not interchangeable. Also, they need to be installed with proper spacing, etc. I might have a set, if you are interested.

On the fuel pump: try powering directly to see if it works. Mine was jammed, but I was able to get it going with carb cleaner and running it backward & forward. Works fine now. If the fuel pump works, try a new DME relay. I might have one of these, too.

Good luck!
Tom

PS: my daughter’s first car was a POS Reatta, my son’s a POS 944. Reatta was cool & unique, but an electronics nightmare. 944 is a better choice if you have to work on it.



Was gonna order the sensors today so let me know if you do have some spares.. Thanks
theer
QUOTE(mb911 @ Mar 20 2018, 07:00 AM) *

QUOTE(theer @ Mar 19 2018, 07:11 PM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Mar 19 2018, 06:32 PM) *

Well yesterday went to the zoo with the younger kids so my 17 year decided to pull the reference and speed sensors and broke them.. Oh well thats how he will learn and then took the injectors out so we could soak them in seafoam.. Also proceeded to pull the tank metal threaded bung out with the tank screen. Now I need to find a bonding agent for plastic to metal that is impervious to gas.. Any suggestions?

Oh also the lug nuts decenegrated on 2 lugs and not sure how to deal with that one.. Just yet..its fun none the less.

Also considering buying a lift. This will free up some space.


In reverse order:

Lift: Do it. 4-post, 2-post, mid rise - each have their merits. All help immensely.

Lug nuts: the stock lugs are super light weight alloy, but start flaking apart after too many years of neglect. Use a smaller size 6-point socket and bash it on then carefully, slowly loosen. Do this by hand, no air guns! Then go buy the steel replacements for $2/pc.

Gas tank: your FLAPS sells gas-tank specific epoxy. But you may want to buy a complete unit from the 944 world out there.

Speed and crank sensors: these can be tricky (and expensive). They look identical, but are not interchangeable. Also, they need to be installed with proper spacing, etc. I might have a set, if you are interested.

On the fuel pump: try powering directly to see if it works. Mine was jammed, but I was able to get it going with carb cleaner and running it backward & forward. Works fine now. If the fuel pump works, try a new DME relay. I might have one of these, too.

Good luck!
Tom

PS: my daughter’s first car was a POS Reatta, my son’s a POS 944. Reatta was cool & unique, but an electronics nightmare. 944 is a better choice if you have to work on it.



Was gonna order the sensors today so let me know if you do have some spares.. Thanks


OK - I'll check tonight
mb911
Did a little powdercoat for my son. The badge was junk so didn't hurt a good one. Click to view attachment
JmuRiz
QUOTE(GeorgeRud @ Mar 19 2018, 06:31 PM) *

It’s always good to catch Porsche fever at a young age!

I agree, granted this will probably be the only new Porsche me or my daughter will be able to afford wink.gif

Hopefully I can hold onto my cars (the 356 and 914 anyway...911 will be sold to pay for the 914) so she can enjoy them in 15-20 years.
mb911
Click to view attachment

Powdercoat this as well.. Inspirational I hope for him
JmuRiz
I like that black badge, pretty cool...kind of GTS-like with their blacked out trim.
porschetub
QUOTE(mb911 @ Mar 12 2018, 09:38 AM) *

Minor update is replaced fuel line from tank to fuel pump.. Not ideal I am sure the factory piece is formed but we were trying to get it to fire up.. Good news is the engine turns over, has spark, and compression.. Now need to buy a battery as was just using jumper cables.. Then check all connections and try to get fuel pump to turn on..


Yes the tank to pump hose has a larger formed end on the tank,a bit hard to fit much else but you could,in regards to the sensors you can use BMW ones and they are a little cheaper but the wires are a different length but still work,if possible give the holes in the sensor block a bit more clearance because they are too tight to start with...you will thank yourself later.
I have used the aftermarket FAE ones from Pelican but not used them long enough to tell the quality.
Fuel pumps have a habit of sticking up if the car has been sitting a while,ensure you have 12v getting to it,the connections tend to corrode on the pump due to its location.
A failed pump isn't such a big deal as it is common to other vehicles and not super spendy.
Good luck and enjoy the father/son project.
mb911
QUOTE(porschetub @ Mar 20 2018, 10:36 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Mar 12 2018, 09:38 AM) *

Minor update is replaced fuel line from tank to fuel pump.. Not ideal I am sure the factory piece is formed but we were trying to get it to fire up.. Good news is the engine turns over, has spark, and compression.. Now need to buy a battery as was just using jumper cables.. Then check all connections and try to get fuel pump to turn on..


Yes the tank to pump hose has a larger formed end on the tank,a bit hard to fit much else but you could,in regards to the sensors you can use BMW ones and they are a little cheaper but the wires are a different length but still work,if possible give the holes in the sensor block a bit more clearance because they are too tight to start with...you will thank yourself later.
I have used the aftermarket FAE ones from Pelican but not used them long enough to tell the quality.
Fuel pumps have a habit of sticking up if the car has been sitting a while,ensure you have 12v getting to it,the connections tend to corrode on the pump due to its location.
A failed pump isn't such a big deal as it is common to other vehicles and not super spendy.
Good luck and enjoy the father/son project.



Any idea of the bmw part numbers to make it cheaper. Looks like one is only 30 dollars(porsche number) the other is about 100..
mb911
Unfortunately now a bit larger of a problem the ferrul that gets glued into the tank is trashed any ideas without replacing the whole tank?Click to view attachment
jd74914
Not sure exactly what I'm looking at, but can you turn a threaded retainer with a wide bond surface and glue it to the tank exterior?
mb911
QUOTE(jd74914 @ Mar 21 2018, 08:30 AM) *

Not sure exactly what I'm looking at, but can you turn a threaded retainer with a wide bond surface and glue it to the tank exterior?



That may work the part to the right is /was bonded to the inside of the tank. May plans are to have a new part made if I can and glue it to the inside of the tank.. Or find someone whom has that fitting. At this point all options are on the table
jesse7flying
You might ask over on the Bird 944 forum. Lots of good info and smart folks. Not as active as World, but you'll get a response. Good luck.
Jesse
porschetub
QUOTE(mb911 @ Mar 21 2018, 11:10 AM) *

QUOTE(porschetub @ Mar 20 2018, 10:36 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Mar 12 2018, 09:38 AM) *

Minor update is replaced fuel line from tank to fuel pump.. Not ideal I am sure the factory piece is formed but we were trying to get it to fire up.. Good news is the engine turns over, has spark, and compression.. Now need to buy a battery as was just using jumper cables.. Then check all connections and try to get fuel pump to turn on..


Yes the tank to pump hose has a larger formed end on the tank,a bit hard to fit much else but you could,in regards to the sensors you can use BMW ones and they are a little cheaper but the wires are a different length but still work,if possible give the holes in the sensor block a bit more clearance because they are too tight to start with...you will thank yourself later.
I have used the aftermarket FAE ones from Pelican but not used them long enough to tell the quality.
Fuel pumps have a habit of sticking up if the car has been sitting a while,ensure you have 12v getting to it,the connections tend to corrode on the pump due to its location.
A failed pump isn't such a big deal as it is common to other vehicles and not super spendy.
Good luck and enjoy the father/son project.



Any idea of the bmw part numbers to make it cheaper. Looks like one is only 30 dollars(porsche number) the other is about 100..


Ben sensors...any one of the 1986 or latter 3,5 and 7 series with Motronic EFI (same system as 944) will work if memory serves me.
As you have the later car with the plastic tank I would doubt you could bond a fitting back in there,a replacement tank would be a better option and shouldn't be expensive to buy used,I seem to remember they can be a bugger to change however never done that myself so don't really know.

theer
'88 definitely has the plastic tank (all '85.5 and later). They are not crazy expensive, and not too hard to replace IIRC, especially if the trans is already out.

Take the trans out with the cross member attached - much easier. Good time to replace the center trans hanger, too.. which part I also have. (I haven't forgotten about the speed & ref sensors).

By the way, those fuel tanks are huge for such a small car.. they hold like 22 gals.
theer
Ok- I lied when I said the sensors are not interchangeable... they are exactly the same part number, but you just have to be careful to plug them in to the correct socket. And because they are the same, they’ll fit perfectly the wrong way around.

I have a pair, which you can have for the cost of shipping.

PM if interested.

I have lots of other 944 parts. Let me know what you need.

Tom
mb911
Tom,

Thanks yes I would be interested in the sensors etc.. Currently we are just trying to get it started before we go to far. Looks like it needs a tank for sure. Ugh

914forme
Ben,

This is the guy I get my 944 donor parts from. MarkSemi local to me, always has a few parts around, he has a small warehouse full of parts. Hard working guy, just trying to scrape by. It is a father and sons operation.

I have gotten things off of him for 914 projects all the time. 924/ 944 manual sunroof parts check $25 bucks, 944 spare check $35 bucks for the steel one. I need a new 17" one. Full roof clip, with a perfect sunroof, check, even got the bag. I think I paid $100 for it, it might have been less than that. confused24.gif

I am sure he has a gas tank or three lol-2.gif

As far as fixing it your self. The only way I can think of doing it is building the section with the fitting, and plastic welding it into the existing tank. So build the panel and fitting first, then patch it into the tank or over the tank where the original came out. You could butt joint it, but why confused24.gif your dealing with plastics here, as long as you have the clearance, just lap joint it, and be done. Like everything cleanliness makes or breaks the process.
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