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billh1963
Selling the car I picked up a few years ago. I've put a fair amount of work into this car and just had Bill Whitesides get some final issues resolved.

I'll start by listing the original ad (as it appeared on world...Original ad). This was the car as purchased by another forum member. I bought it from him with the 2.7 CIS installed.

I'll list the specs of the car (modifying the description to show things that have changed) and then list the recent work:

1972 Irish Green. Originally Irish Green, painted yellow at some point in its life, then painted back to Irish Green.
There is no rust on this car that I have seen and neither has Bill W (who dropped the engine and been all through the car inside and out..... he has seen everything there is to see).
I don't believe the car has ever been hit. The front trunk pan has some minor damage by either running over something or an idiot with a jack.
The paint is decent but has several small "bubbles" on the hood and several other flat surfaces from poor paint prep. I can't get them to show in a picture. Paint is pretty good and a good buffing would do wonders.
Interior is very clean. The car has the very hard to find dark brown interior. Seats are good and dash is uncracked. Carpet is new. Everything works (except for heat...because, you know...headers) including the clock.
Car runs and drives very well.

2.7L 911 CIS 6 cylinder engine with a 73 7R case
Stainless steel brake lines
Cross drilled and vented brakes
5 bolt Fuchs Alloys 6 x 16 with four year old Pirelli CINTURATO P7 205/55R16 and a Fuchs 6x16 spare
Sway Bars front and rear
Side shift transmission and shift mechanism
19 mm 911 Master cylinder
M calipers front .
Widened calipers rear with handbrake functional .
New Brake pads front and rear
New Bilstein front inserts ( shocks )
New Ball joints
New rear shocks Boge and springs #140 lbs
New Speedo Cable and Angle Drive
New Carpets
New Seat Belts ( and retractors )
New Fuel Pump ( relocated to front trunk )
Center Console with Gauges
911 oil pressure /oil temp gauge
Porsche Oil tank
New inner and outer rockers

After I bought the car in 2015, I took it to Series 9 in DeLand Florida where Joe
- resealed the engine
- installed stainless steel fuel lines in the tunnel
- installed a Bob Saville Naro engine mount
- Installed MSD 6AC ignition

I drove the car sparingly (too many other cars to drive). Plus, the transmission was well worn and I really didn't enjoy driving it that much. So, I had Dr. Evil build me a new transmission. That takes us to the present. I took the car to Bill W and he did the following:
- Remove and replace transmission
- Drop engine and replace alternator ($379 for alternator)
- Replace shifter assembly
- Weld broken clutch tube
- Rebuild pedal cluster
- Replace clutch cable
- Change oil, replace warped oil sump plate
- Four wheel laser alignment

So, if you made it this far, you know the history of the car. Why am I selling? You may have seen my previous posts that Marathon Blue is my favorite color. I have everything needed to build a 6 conversion (including a '74 in Marathon blue). So, I'm going to build my own.

Price is $22,000 obo.


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Robdog1033
Do you have any pixs of the "Hellhole"? How many miles do you approximate are on the motor?
billh1963
The picture of the hell hole is just below the picture of the engine. No rust.

No idea of mileage. Series 9 did a compression check when the car was there and the numbers were excellent. I’ll look for the email from Joe where he listed them or maybe he can chime in.

There probably hasn’t been a couple hundred miles added to the car since Joe resealed the engine.
IronHillRestorations
Did that belong to Jason Panciera? Part of the wiring looks familiar.
nditiz1
Did they do a leak down on the motor? That will give a better indication of health. Looks really great BTW.
billh1963
QUOTE(IronHillRestorations @ Oct 2 2019, 03:16 PM) *

Did that belong to Jason Panciera? Part of the wiring looks familiar.


No....don't think so. I bought from Kirk R and before that the car came from Tom D in Canada
Robdog1033
Can you please give me a call when you have time to chat. Thanks Rob (626)841-9550
mepstein
Bill is one of those guys that I would buy a car from on his word alone because I know it would be as described or better.
burton73
More pictures of doon jams and trunks would really help get this sold


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Robdog1033
Hey Bill,
I'm new on these forums and obviously at sending messages, I posted my phone # for all to see. I'm interested in speaking with you about the car, I have a Couple of questions. Thanks Rob
billh1963
QUOTE(mepstein @ Oct 3 2019, 04:58 PM) *

Bill is one of those guys that I would buy a car from on his word alone because I know it would be as described or better.


Thank you, Mark. I try to be thorough in my description. But, would hope people will do their own diligence. The car isn't 100% perfect (if it was it would be a lot more) but is a super solid car that runs and drives great. After having owned well over 20 914's since 2011 I'm starting learn something about them lol-2.gif

Everyone has a different perception of condition. That's why I encourage people to come see the car or call Bill Whiteside (username: adidas) and get his take. He thinks the car is great and I should ask more biggrin.gif

I'm leaning towards selling through BaT exclusively. I just sold one of my Corvairs (64 Spyder) on there for much more than I expected. The buyer even left a nice comment a few days ago about how much they like the car. But, it takes a while to get a car listed on BaT. So, in the interim I figured I would see if my fellow forum members are interested.
billh1963
QUOTE(burton73 @ Oct 3 2019, 05:17 PM) *

More pictures of doon jams and trunks would really help get this sold


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I'll get some pictures over the weekend. I'm going to one of my farms tomorrow and won't be back until Saturday evening. I may take some video as well in preparation for submitting to BaT. If I do, I'll post a link to that, too.
billh1963
QUOTE(Robdog1033 @ Oct 3 2019, 07:04 PM) *

Hey Bill,
I'm new on these forums and obviously at sending messages, I posted my phone # for all to see. I'm interested in speaking with you about the car, I have a Couple of questions. Thanks Rob


Sent you a PM
scottthephotog
Sent a PM. Thanks!
billh1963
I appreciate the tremendous response I have had so far. Maybe I priced too low? confused24.gif

Anyway, the car is sold pending funds. If the situation changes I'll update accordingly.

Thank you
914z
Yup priced way too low but you are building a 74 Marathon blue conversion biggrin.gif driving.gif
If it does not sell I know a guy in Chicago who is looking for something just like that! at that price beerchug.gif
mtndawg
I think people come out of the gate way too high and it prolongs the process. You started at a realistic number.
Tdskip
QUOTE(mtndawg @ Oct 5 2019, 05:58 PM) *

I think people come out of the gate way too high and it prolongs the process. You started at a realistic number.


+1

If you are going to sell it just price it to sell.

Well done and move on!
914z
QUOTE(mtndawg @ Oct 5 2019, 03:58 PM) *

I think people come out of the gate way too high and it prolongs the process. You started at a realistic number.


Too True I just thought it would be a little more; I tried to buy it when it was in Canada, but to get it into Calif ...?...
even though it was a 72, but I have since acquired my dream car

Bill Good luck with the sale and like I said if it falls thru I possibly have some one who would take good care of it!
billh1963
QUOTE(914z @ Oct 7 2019, 12:27 PM) *

QUOTE(mtndawg @ Oct 5 2019, 03:58 PM) *

I think people come out of the gate way too high and it prolongs the process. You started at a realistic number.


Too True I just thought it would be a little more; I tried to buy it when it was in Canada, but to get it into Calif ...?...
even though it was a 72, but I have since acquired my dream car

Bill Good luck with the sale and like I said if it falls thru I possibly have some one who would take good care of it!


At this point the sale appears to be going through. However, the buyer is nervous from having been scammed previously. He's being extra cautious because he's new to the forum and is concerned the car doesn't exist. I think it's somewhat amusing because as many people who know me and/or have seen this car this it isn't like a random car on a craigslist ad lol-2.gif But, I do understand his fears.

He seems like a good guy but he may get cold feet. If he does, I'll let everyone know. Although, I'll probably just go straight to BaT if that happens.

Thank you for your continued interest.
DRPHIL914
QUOTE(billh1963 @ Oct 7 2019, 12:41 PM) *

QUOTE(914z @ Oct 7 2019, 12:27 PM) *

QUOTE(mtndawg @ Oct 5 2019, 03:58 PM) *

I think people come out of the gate way too high and it prolongs the process. You started at a realistic number.


Too True I just thought it would be a little more; I tried to buy it when it was in Canada, but to get it into Calif ...?...
even though it was a 72, but I have since acquired my dream car

Bill Good luck with the sale and like I said if it falls thru I possibly have some one who would take good care of it!


At this point the sale appears to be going through. However, the buyer is nervous from having been scammed previously. He's being extra cautious because he's new to the forum and is concerned the car doesn't exist. I think it's somewhat amusing because as many people who know me and/or have seen this car this it isn't like a random car on a craigslist ad lol-2.gif But, I do understand his fears.

He seems like a good guy but he may get cold feet. If he does, I'll let everyone know. Although, I'll probably just go straight to BaT if that happens.

Thank you for your continued interest.


I hope it works out for you, but I know how that goes. Tell him to fly out, drive it home! he can wire your funds immediately and off he goes with a car and a title.
As you know Bill I had a weird experience on my last purchase, the guy was afraid of me scamming him, when I was sitting in his house wiring funds, offering to take the car and a bill of sale and wait for my title due to their being a small loan payoff- I was the one will all the risk! people are funny. it all worked out fine, so if he is reading this I would say, you better grab this car while you can because this is a screaming deal and I am about ready to take some funds out of my home equity to grab it if you don't complete this deal! but seriously Bill is a stand up guy and I have actually purchased a project car from him in the past and seen his extensive hoard of cars drooley.gif . don't worry you will be fine!

Dr. Phil
ValcoOscar
I'm a late player, wife said no more 914's, but.

I'd sale my 74 Marathon Blue and buy your car in a heartbeat.

Let me know if deal falls through.

Oscar

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mepstein
QUOTE(ValcoOscar @ Oct 7 2019, 02:50 PM) *

I'm a late player, wife said no more 914's, but.

I'd sale my 74 Marathon Blue and buy your car in a heartbeat.

Let me know if deal falls through.

Oscar


I always have space at my house for another 14. It could be your east coast car. laugh.gif
billh1963
QUOTE(ValcoOscar @ Oct 7 2019, 02:50 PM) *

I'm a late player, wife said no more 914's, but.

I'd sale my 74 Marathon Blue and buy your car in a heartbeat.

Let me know if deal falls through.

Oscar

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I'd buy your car in a heartbeat! My favorite color and your car is a beauty! beer.gif
DRPHIL914
QUOTE(billh1963 @ Oct 7 2019, 03:55 PM) *

QUOTE(ValcoOscar @ Oct 7 2019, 02:50 PM) *

I'm a late player, wife said no more 914's, but.

I'd sale my 74 Marathon Blue and buy your car in a heartbeat.

Let me know if deal falls through.

Oscar

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I'd buy your car in a heartbeat! My favorite color and your car is a beauty! beer.gif


I see a trade in the future- looks like a win-win!
ndfrigi
QUOTE(DRPHIL914 @ Oct 7 2019, 02:36 PM) *

QUOTE(billh1963 @ Oct 7 2019, 03:55 PM) *

QUOTE(ValcoOscar @ Oct 7 2019, 02:50 PM) *

I'm a late player, wife said no more 914's, but.

I'd sale my 74 Marathon Blue and buy your car in a heartbeat.

Let me know if deal falls through.

Oscar

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I'd buy your car in a heartbeat! My favorite color and your car is a beauty! beer.gif


I see a trade in the future- looks like a win-win!


hahaha that is what it looks like Doc Phil!
billh1963
Car is sold. Thank you for your interest!
BK911
QUOTE(billh1963 @ Oct 8 2019, 01:37 PM) *

Car is sold. Thank you for your interest!


Thank goodness.
It was a decent car when you got it, and you made it even better.
Don't know how much longer I could have held off!
ndfrigi
new owner a member here? is it Oscar?
billh1963
It’s a new member. I’ll leave it up to them if they want to introduce themselves.


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ndfrigi
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It’s a new member. I’ll leave it up to them if they want to introduce themselves.


congratulations Bill on your sale!
billh1963
QUOTE(BK911 @ Oct 8 2019, 02:52 PM) *

QUOTE(billh1963 @ Oct 8 2019, 01:37 PM) *

Car is sold. Thank you for your interest!


Thank goodness.
It was a decent car when you got it, and you made it even better.
Don't know how much longer I could have held off!



It still needs some “elbow grease” and some cosmetic attention here and there. But, the car runs nice, electrically is in good shape (even the reverse lights work) and with the new Dr. Evil transmission shifts properly. The new owner can drive this car anywhere they want while deciding if they want to take it to the next level.
EdwardBlume
A very good buy. Congrats to the buyer and seller.
Robdog1033
Good morning Guys, I'm the lucky recipient of Bills car. I'm new to the forum, but have dabbled in the Porsche space on and off throughout my life. I have owned 911s/912s and 914s. Unfortunately in my younger years we didn't have forums for Porsche enthusiast to exchange info. and experiences. The Recycler newspaper (maybe only a west coast thing)was the only source of purchasing any used vehicles. Lucky for me, my Dad was a Porsche mechanic his entire life and taught me the right end of a wrench. Bill is a great guy and was extremely patient with me during this purchase and my caution approach to buying a long distance car over the webb. Unfortunately the scum of the earth also troll websites and I fell victim to such scum about 6 mths ago and lost a significant amount of money. I couldn't be happier with my new purchase and look forward to the delivery of the car early next week.
ValcoOscar
QUOTE(Robdog1033 @ Oct 9 2019, 07:32 AM) *

Good morning Guys, I'm the lucky recipient of Bills car. I'm new to the forum, but have dabbled in the Porsche space on and off throughout my life. I have owned 911s/912s and 914s. Unfortunately in my younger years we didn't have forums for Porsche enthusiast to exchange info. and experiences. The Recycler newspaper (maybe only a west coast thing)was the only source of purchasing any used vehicles. Lucky for me, my Dad was a Porsche mechanic his entire life and taught me the right end of a wrench. Bill is a great guy and was extremely patient with me during this purchase and my caution approach to buying a long distance car over the webb. Unfortunately the scum of the earth also troll websites and I fell victim to such scum about 6 mths ago and lost a significant amount of money. I couldn't be happier with my new purchase and look forward to the delivery of the car early next week.


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Congrats on your new purchase!!!!

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Oscar
ndfrigi
Welcome to 914world @robdog1033 and congratulations!
Nice this car going to California!
914z
QUOTE(Robdog1033 @ Oct 9 2019, 07:32 AM) *

Good morning Guys, I'm the lucky recipient of Bills car. I'm new to the forum, but have dabbled in the Porsche space on and off throughout my life. I have owned 911s/912s and 914s. Unfortunately in my younger years we didn't have forums for Porsche enthusiast to exchange info. and experiences. The Recycler newspaper (maybe only a west coast thing)was the only source of purchasing any used vehicles. Lucky for me, my Dad was a Porsche mechanic his entire life and taught me the right end of a wrench. Bill is a great guy and was extremely patient with me during this purchase and my caution approach to buying a long distance car over the webb. Unfortunately the scum of the earth also troll websites and I fell victim to such scum about 6 mths ago and lost a significant amount of money. I couldn't be happier with my new purchase and look forward to the delivery of the car early next week.


welcome.png CONGRATS ON THE PURCHASE! Man, this was a real nail bitter, my friend, Keith, in Chicago was all set to pull the trigger. driving.gif Great price! I'm really jealous, 1st thing PUT AN OIL COOLER IN IT!!!!!!!! the 2.7 engines need it smile.gif You DO NOT want to over heat that engine headbang.gif Anyway we expect to see you at CARS and COFFEE 1st sunday at the Porsche Experience Center Torrance! cheer.gif
914z
QUOTE(billh1963 @ Oct 8 2019, 01:26 PM) *

QUOTE(BK911 @ Oct 8 2019, 02:52 PM) *

QUOTE(billh1963 @ Oct 8 2019, 01:37 PM) *

Car is sold. Thank you for your interest!


Thank goodness.
It was a decent car when you got it, and you made it even better.
Don't know how much longer I could have held off!



It still needs some “elbow grease” and some cosmetic attention here and there. But, the car runs nice, electrically is in good shape (even the reverse lights work) and with the new Dr. Evil transmission shifts properly. The new owner can drive this car anywhere they want while deciding if they want to take it to the next level.

Bill, CONGRATS on the sale! beerchug.gif I think you won him over!! smile.gif
mepstein
QUOTE(Robdog1033 @ Oct 9 2019, 10:32 AM) *

Good morning Guys, I'm the lucky recipient of Bills car. I'm new to the forum, but have dabbled in the Porsche space on and off throughout my life. I have owned 911s/912s and 914s. Unfortunately in my younger years we didn't have forums for Porsche enthusiast to exchange info. and experiences. The Recycler newspaper (maybe only a west coast thing)was the only source of purchasing any used vehicles. Lucky for me, my Dad was a Porsche mechanic his entire life and taught me the right end of a wrench. Bill is a great guy and was extremely patient with me during this purchase and my caution approach to buying a long distance car over the webb. Unfortunately the scum of the earth also troll websites and I fell victim to such scum about 6 mths ago and lost a significant amount of money. I couldn't be happier with my new purchase and look forward to the delivery of the car early next week.

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nditiz1
Awesome Buy!

BTW why are you west coast guys stealing our east coast cars??? It's hard enough finding a clean one on the east coast. This one and JoeProper's both went to Cali. I thought they had an over abundance of rust free perfect drivers. What say you Oscar?

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ValcoOscar
QUOTE(nditiz1 @ Oct 9 2019, 01:28 PM) *

Awesome Buy!

BTW why are you west coast guys stealing our east coast cars??? It's hard enough finding a clean one on the east coast. This one and JoeProper's both went to Cali. I thought they had an over abundance of rust free perfect drivers. What say you Oscar?

beerchug.gif


Hey..I had nothing to do with those two cars coming to the West Coast. Wish I did though. Don't kid me, some of my favorite 914's are back East. I saw Okteenerfest photos.

Oscar


mepstein
QUOTE(ValcoOscar @ Oct 9 2019, 04:53 PM) *

QUOTE(nditiz1 @ Oct 9 2019, 01:28 PM) *

Awesome Buy!

BTW why are you west coast guys stealing our east coast cars??? It's hard enough finding a clean one on the east coast. This one and JoeProper's both went to Cali. I thought they had an over abundance of rust free perfect drivers. What say you Oscar?

beerchug.gif


Hey..I had nothing to do with those two cars coming to the West Coast. Wish I did though. Don't kid me, some of my favorite 914's are back East. I saw Okteenerfest photos.

Oscar


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JOEPROPER
QUOTE(mepstein @ Oct 9 2019, 05:21 PM) *

QUOTE(ValcoOscar @ Oct 9 2019, 04:53 PM) *

QUOTE(nditiz1 @ Oct 9 2019, 01:28 PM) *

Awesome Buy!

BTW why are you west coast guys stealing our east coast cars??? It's hard enough finding a clean one on the east coast. This one and JoeProper's both went to Cali. I thought they had an over abundance of rust free perfect drivers. What say you Oscar?

beerchug.gif


Hey..I had nothing to do with those two cars coming to the West Coast. Wish I did though. Don't kid me, some of my favorite 914's are back East. I saw Okteenerfest photos.

Oscar


Unlike Bill or Oscar, I would never buy anything from JoeProper. stromberg.gif

@mepstein ... You're confused... JOEPROPER is a good guy.
There is another Joe out there that you have me confused with. idea.gif
mepstein
QUOTE(JOEPROPER @ Oct 9 2019, 05:45 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Oct 9 2019, 05:21 PM) *

QUOTE(ValcoOscar @ Oct 9 2019, 04:53 PM) *

QUOTE(nditiz1 @ Oct 9 2019, 01:28 PM) *

Awesome Buy!

BTW why are you west coast guys stealing our east coast cars??? It's hard enough finding a clean one on the east coast. This one and JoeProper's both went to Cali. I thought they had an over abundance of rust free perfect drivers. What say you Oscar?

beerchug.gif


Hey..I had nothing to do with those two cars coming to the West Coast. Wish I did though. Don't kid me, some of my favorite 914's are back East. I saw Okteenerfest photos.

Oscar


Unlike Bill or Oscar, I would never buy anything from JoeProper. stromberg.gif

@mepstein ... You're confused... JOEPROPER is a good guy.
There is another Joe out there that you have me confused with. idea.gif

Yes, I'm so sorry. I was thinking Joedubbs and wrote Joeproper. I made that mistake once before. Joe Proper is a good guy. beerchug.gif And I'm obviously a mess slap.gif

@Joeproper
Justinp71
QUOTE(ValcoOscar @ Oct 7 2019, 11:50 AM) *

I'm a late player, wife said no more 914's, but.

I'd sale my 74 Marathon Blue and buy your car in a heartbeat.

Let me know if deal falls through.

Oscar

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Sorry off-topic-
Oscar I like your stance, what is your wheel/tire combo here?
JOEPROPER
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flat4guy
Congratulations. Is the car coming to Nor Cal or So Cal? Would love to see it in person, plus we have quite a few drives in Nor Cal.
Robdog1033
QUOTE(flat4guy @ Oct 9 2019, 09:35 PM) *

Congratulations. Is the car coming to Nor Cal or So Cal? Would love to see it in person, plus we have quite a few drives in Nor Cal.



I live in the So.Cal area, San Diego. Really looking forward to putting my own touches on the car,,,you know...spinner hub caps over those hideous fuch rims, got a cool Leopard print picked out for the drab Brown interior and might even get bold with some really cool 80's style flames up the front hood, roof and trunk area. Nothing over the top, just taistful. piratenanner.gif
dax1969
Congratulations on the sale ....
Congratulations on the buy ....

Good for you you pulled the trigger quickly otherwise this car would have been in a seacontainer heading for Belgium....

"another one bites the dust..."

Well ok, I know that distance and timedifference is against me... I'll have to be patient once again biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

note : currently working on a 1973 2.0 ex canada which is already in Europe biggrin.gif Will look at the car on saturday .... wish me luck cheer.gif

greetings
Dax
Cairo94507
Congratulations to both parties and best wishes on your new 914. beerchug.gif
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