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Tdskip
Went to go look at this under the theory that buying one complete is cheaper than building it, and it’s a ripsnorter of a car. The guy who owns it, Joe, is a good guy and he’s got a good history on the car. Engine and gearbox seem really healthy.

It’s too high adrenaline for me, at least as it’s currently set up, the Webers and the exhaust that are on it are a bit too aggressive for what I’m looking to build, but if you want something to wake you up and be aggressive with this might be a good one.

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Tdskip
Here is the link

https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/pts/d/n...7030092936.html
Robarabian
Isnt that car the one with a Salvage title though? I thought the original ad listed it as salvage...
Tdskip
QUOTE(Robarabian @ Dec 1 2019, 11:14 PM) *

Isnt that car the one with a Salvage title though? I thought the original ad listed it as salvage...


My understanding is that it is a salvage title car, apparently there was a front hit back in the 90s that was repaired. The seller was completely straightforward about it when I stop by to see the car and helped me locate where the repair was done .
burton73
QUOTE(Tdskip @ Dec 1 2019, 08:41 PM) *

QUOTE(Robarabian @ Dec 1 2019, 11:14 PM) *

Isnt that car the one with a Salvage title though? I thought the original ad listed it as salvage...


My understanding is that it is a salvage title car, apparently there was a front hit back in the 90s that was repaired. The seller was completely straightforward about it when I stop by to see the car and helped me locate where the repair was done .


FROM THEIR AD
California slavage title from a front end hit in the 70's. Car was fixed properly by TLG auto back


Bob B
mb911
Looks like a nice car.. I am going to let you in on a little secret.. The reason I sold my last 914-6 was because it was loud with no heat.. That is why I started doing what I do now.. Creature comforts in my book are heat, and quiet mufflers..
eric9144
Bummer for the salvage title dry.gif Otherwise I'd probably have been all over this one.
All of the other stuff could be addressed over time, but the title thing will always be a cloud that affects value.
Justinp71
If he has the stock CIS pistons in the car still you can convert it to CIS. Which isn't too hard but it will take finding a nice CIS system and some homework.

Also I think if you just put on a stock 911 air cleaner and one of Ben's new quiet mufflers it should tame it down quite a bit with some easy parts swapping.

I like it loud, when I went from CIS to webers I was in love... wub.gif
PlantMan
Dont let the salvaged title scare you.
If you like it, buy it. Drive the hell out of it and enjoy.
Looks like a nice car to me.
bulliporker
does anyone know the owner as sent him a email and still not heard anything back
colingreene
yeah look up joe anselmo motorsports.
thats him.
6s219
I was considering this car however the salvage title turned me away. I think it is a good build and as the seller said, you will be hard-pressed to find a better canyon carver. But remember the car you buy today might be the car you have to sell in the future and that salvage title might be a black cloud. I have found salvage cars always have a story as to why they were salvaged.
mepstein
QUOTE(6s219 @ Dec 4 2019, 08:47 PM) *

I was considering this car however the salvage title turned me away. I think it is a good build and as the seller said, you will be hard-pressed to find a better canyon carver. But remember the car you buy today might be the car you have to sell in the future and that salvage title might be a black cloud. I have found salvage cars always have a story as to why they were salvaged.

But that’s why they come cheaper.
6s219
QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 4 2019, 06:10 PM) *

QUOTE(6s219 @ Dec 4 2019, 08:47 PM) *

I was considering this car however the salvage title turned me away. I think it is a good build and as the seller said, you will be hard-pressed to find a better canyon carver. But remember the car you buy today might be the car you have to sell in the future and that salvage title might be a black cloud. I have found salvage cars always have a story as to why they were salvaged.

But that’s why they come cheaper.




$27,500 is cheap?
Tdskip
I have no financial interest in this car, but I would suggest that asking and selling price may be significantly different with this one. I’d just pick up the phone and call him, seems like a good guy and I think he’s motivated .
mepstein
QUOTE(6s219 @ Dec 5 2019, 01:44 AM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 4 2019, 06:10 PM) *

QUOTE(6s219 @ Dec 4 2019, 08:47 PM) *

I was considering this car however the salvage title turned me away. I think it is a good build and as the seller said, you will be hard-pressed to find a better canyon carver. But remember the car you buy today might be the car you have to sell in the future and that salvage title might be a black cloud. I have found salvage cars always have a story as to why they were salvaged.

But that’s why they come cheaper.




$27,500 is cheap?


For a good running conversion. Yes. Try to have one built for that price.
6s219
QUOTE(Tdskip @ Dec 5 2019, 07:03 AM) *

I have no financial interest in this car, but I would suggest that asking and selling price may be significantly different with this one. I’d just pick up the phone and call him, seems like a good guy and I think he’s motivated .



By no means am I questioning the sellers character, in fact I applaud him for disclosing that the car has salvage title, and I think we all know it is more cost-effective to find a complete car then it is to try to go out and do it on your own. if he’s motivated to sell he should put a motivated price. If somebody’s looking for a car like this and sees a price at $27,500 but only has a $22,000 budget chances are they’re going to say there’s too much of a spread and the seller won’t come down that low and will look elsewhere.

Andyrew
Its a $20k motor... Your getting a hell of a lot of car for 27500...

Conversion 6's are probably the best bang for the buck Porsches on the market.
JOEPROPER
QUOTE(Andyrew @ Dec 5 2019, 05:30 PM) *

Its a $20k motor... Your getting a hell of a lot of car for 27500...

Conversion 6's are probably the best bang for the buck Porsches on the market.

agree.gif I'm surprised it's still available.
roblav1
Agree... $27.5k is a good deal. I'm building one now and am way over that already. My engine alone is $25k.
mountainroads
QUOTE(roblav1 @ Dec 5 2019, 03:35 PM) *

Agree... $27.5k is a good deal. I'm building one now and am way over that already. My engine alone is $25k.


I can attest to that, as well. Mine's not a conversion nor did it require major restoration, but the expenses racked up in a big hurry.

- MR
burton73
What does this car use for extra oil cooling?

I have a message in but no word back

Bob B
914z
QUOTE(Justinp71 @ Dec 4 2019, 12:30 PM) *

If he has the stock CIS pistons in the car still you can convert it to CIS. Which isn't too hard but it will take finding a nice CIS system and some homework.

Also I think if you just put on a stock 911 air cleaner and one of Ben's new quiet mufflers it should tame it down quite a bit with some easy parts swapping.

I like it loud, when I went from CIS to webers I was in love... wub.gif


DITTO!!! The CIS will give you the gas mileage(?) but there is nothing like the sound of gasoline being fed into the venturies beer3.gif
matthepcat
I would take off the carbs and run a megasquirt based ITB set up. No way would I go back to CIS. Somthing like this: https://www.x-faktory.com/store/c6/EFI.html
914_teener
QUOTE(6s219 @ Dec 4 2019, 05:47 PM) *

I was considering this car however the salvage title turned me away. I think it is a good build and as the seller said, you will be hard-pressed to find a better canyon carver. But remember the car you buy today might be the car you have to sell in the future and that salvage title might be a black cloud. I have found salvage cars always have a story as to why they were salvaged.



I bought a used Cayman as a salvage title. It was hit in the front and the insurance company bought it. 60 k on the clock and for an 06 I've had more fun in it for the last two years.

I considered building a -6 for my 914 before I bought the Cayman. I got a stealer deal on the Cayman because of the title.

To build a car like this would cost twice as much as the asking price. The motor alone is over 20k.

If the ask is 27k and everything checks out that is a killer deal.

If I had space in my garage I'd get it.

GLWS
burton73
Going down now to CK it out. Joe is a nice guy on the phone.

I will let you all know.


Bob B driving.gif
burton73
Joe had a lot of nice cars over at his place. On to the 914-6 3.0 conversation. Work was done at Mario and dads shop in the San Fernando Valley. The body was not that bad from the front hit back in the day that made it a salvage Pink.
The car had an AC with its 2.0 and the condenser was removed and a piece of steel was welded in but not a replacement panel. The car looks pretty right in the front in the trunk and there are only some small gap difference in the front hood and flip up lights but not that bad.
The car has a Carrera front end and someone put vented disks on rear and spaced out the 914-4 rear calipers for ebrake that works fine. The car has Webbers 40s and at this time does nor idle well and needs some tuning but the car also did not have filters on the Webbers and it is very loud. That and the GT twin exhaust pipe in the center of rear of muffler. Very loud. No extra oil cooling but he has a GT engine lid that does not pop up because it has no springs on it.

The engine looks super clean from the bottom. Jo says it only has a couple of hundred miles on the Eng. and trans was just rebuilt and worked well. The throttle is not smooth at all and this make the car in this state hard to drive smooth. Car has 7in Fuchs all around and is lowered a bit and scrapes the tires when going down or up a driveway at slow speed. Rear lips are not rolled. Paint is older but very shinny and a nice body.
Steering wheel wiggles up and down a little and buy the way you have to yell to he heard by your passenger.

Headers not heat exchangers and as I said very loud.

My 6 at PMB better not be this loud or I will need to rethink it.

If a guy got it at the right price he could do a bit of work to it to get it very nice but way more than my buddie is looking for.


Bob B
flat4guy
Thanks for the report - I have a loud 912 now so the wife would not like another one, haha. Still tempting but need to figure how much it will take to make it a good fun driver.
Alapone
QUOTE(burton73 @ Dec 11 2019, 04:52 PM) *

Joe had a lot of nice cars over at his place. On to the 914-6 3.0 conversation. Work was done at Mario and dads shop in the San Fernando Valley. The body was not that bad from the front hit back in the day that made it a salvage Pink.
The car had an AC with its 2.0 and the condenser was removed and a piece of steel was welded in but not a replacement panel. The car looks pretty right in the front in the trunk and there are only some small gap difference in the front hood and flip up lights but not that bad.
The car has a Carrera front end and someone put vented disks on rear and spaced out the 914-4 rear calipers for ebrake that works fine. The car has Webbers 40s and at this time does nor idle well and needs some tuning but the car also did not have filters on the Webbers and it is very loud. That and the GT twin exhaust pipe in the center of rear of muffler. Very loud. No extra oil cooling but he has a GT engine lid that does not pop up because it has no springs on it.

The engine looks super clean from the bottom. Jo says it only has a couple of hundred miles on the Eng. and trans was just rebuilt and worked well. The throttle is not smooth at all and this make the car in this state hard to drive smooth. Car has 7in Fuchs all around and is lowered a bit and scrapes the tires when going down or up a driveway at slow speed. Rear lips are not rolled. Paint is older but very shinny and a nice body.
Steering wheel wiggles up and down a little and buy the way you have to yell to he heard by your passenger.

Headers not heat exchangers and as I said very loud.

My 6 at PMB better not be this loud or I will need to rethink it.

If a guy got it at the right price he could do a bit of work to it to get it very nice but way more than my buddie is looking for.


Bob B


Any word on how oil cooling is handled?
infraredcalvin
QUOTE(Alapone @ Dec 12 2019, 06:07 AM) *

QUOTE(burton73 @ Dec 11 2019, 04:52 PM) *

Joe had a lot of nice cars over at his place. On to the 914-6 3.0 conversation. Work was done at Mario and dads shop in the San Fernando Valley. The body was not that bad from the front hit back in the day that made it a salvage Pink.
The car had an AC with its 2.0 and the condenser was removed and a piece of steel was welded in but not a replacement panel. The car looks pretty right in the front in the trunk and there are only some small gap difference in the front hood and flip up lights but not that bad.
The car has a Carrera front end and someone put vented disks on rear and spaced out the 914-4 rear calipers for ebrake that works fine. The car has Webbers 40s and at this time does nor idle well and needs some tuning but the car also did not have filters on the Webbers and it is very loud. That and the GT twin exhaust pipe in the center of rear of muffler. Very loud. No extra oil cooling but he has a GT engine lid that does not pop up because it has no springs on it.

The engine looks super clean from the bottom. Jo says it only has a couple of hundred miles on the Eng. and trans was just rebuilt and worked well. The throttle is not smooth at all and this make the car in this state hard to drive smooth. Car has 7in Fuchs all around and is lowered a bit and scrapes the tires when going down or up a driveway at slow speed. Rear lips are not rolled. Paint is older but very shinny and a nice body.
Steering wheel wiggles up and down a little and buy the way you have to yell to he heard by your passenger.

Headers not heat exchangers and as I said very loud.

My 6 at PMB better not be this loud or I will need to rethink it.

If a guy got it at the right price he could do a bit of work to it to get it very nice but way more than my buddie is looking for.


Bob B


Any word on how oil cooling is handled?

burton73
Note this is not my car. I just went down with a bud to CK it out.

On this car Oil cooling is a what looks like a stock on engine 911sc oil cooling. The oil cooler on the car looks super clean. They think only a couple of hundred miles on it. Look if the factory put up front extra oil cooling on 911scs I would do the same for this car. Some people run one in the rear like the one Tangerine racing sells, but he has set ups for the 4 and I am not sure he has a under rear trunk one for a six?

Ben has lines for front cooler and heat exchangers and mufflers.

https://914-6werkshop.com/shop/products/

http://www.tangerineracing.com/contact_us.htm



Bob B

Alapone
QUOTE(infraredcalvin @ Dec 12 2019, 10:59 AM) *

QUOTE(Alapone @ Dec 12 2019, 06:07 AM) *

QUOTE(burton73 @ Dec 11 2019, 04:52 PM) *

Joe had a lot of nice cars over at his place. On to the 914-6 3.0 conversation. Work was done at Mario and dads shop in the San Fernando Valley. The body was not that bad from the front hit back in the day that made it a salvage Pink.
The car had an AC with its 2.0 and the condenser was removed and a piece of steel was welded in but not a replacement panel. The car looks pretty right in the front in the trunk and there are only some small gap difference in the front hood and flip up lights but not that bad.
The car has a Carrera front end and someone put vented disks on rear and spaced out the 914-4 rear calipers for ebrake that works fine. The car has Webbers 40s and at this time does nor idle well and needs some tuning but the car also did not have filters on the Webbers and it is very loud. That and the GT twin exhaust pipe in the center of rear of muffler. Very loud. No extra oil cooling but he has a GT engine lid that does not pop up because it has no springs on it.

The engine looks super clean from the bottom. Jo says it only has a couple of hundred miles on the Eng. and trans was just rebuilt and worked well. The throttle is not smooth at all and this make the car in this state hard to drive smooth. Car has 7in Fuchs all around and is lowered a bit and scrapes the tires when going down or up a driveway at slow speed. Rear lips are not rolled. Paint is older but very shinny and a nice body.
Steering wheel wiggles up and down a little and buy the way you have to yell to he heard by your passenger.

Headers not heat exchangers and as I said very loud.

My 6 at PMB better not be this loud or I will need to rethink it.

If a guy got it at the right price he could do a bit of work to it to get it very nice but way more than my buddie is looking for.


Bob B


Any word on how oil cooling is handled?


ha thanks sry
Tdskip
On a sidenote it continues to amaze me how many people claim to be interested in buying a $25,000 plus car but can’t be bothered to read the description of what’s been provided including that both Bob and I have made clean it is not our car.
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