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TINKERGINEERING
Just removed my outer rocker panels in search of rust. Take a look at what I found!
Kinda learning as I go here. Is this usual to find this much junk in the rockers?
It's been 1 year exactly on the project. I've met some amazing people and can't believe how much I have learned. Thanks for all the 914World encouragement!
My Dad and I post these videos together.
Thanks for watching! popcorn[1].gif
Frances


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6eipe-Dk74
Robarabian
Very normal!! Mine were worse. make them accessible enough to clean them out every year. Great video too!


QUOTE(TINKERGINEERING @ Nov 25 2020, 09:34 PM) *

Just removed my outer rocker panels in search of rust. Take a look at what I found!
Kinda learning as I go here. Is this usual to find this much junk in the rockers?
It's been 1 year exactly on the project. I've met some amazing people and can't believe how much I have learned. Thanks for all the 914World encouragement!
My Dad and I post these videos together.
Thanks for watching! popcorn[1].gif
Frances


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6eipe-Dk74


Frankvw
Hi ! Great video again.
Your rockers and covers are in great shape ! all can be re-used.
and to answer your question : "Am I the only person with a Porsche on blocks?"....welll....NO ! smile.gif
But most if us have it on jackstands at same point and not on blocks, but the idea is the same.
Keep up the good work !!
ValcoOscar
I just "liked" your latest video.
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Keep up the enthusiasm.

Happy holidays to you and your entire family.
Cairo94507
Terrific job and your "long" looks to be a decent shape as well as the rocker cover. The passenger side, as you already know I am sure, is typically the one with the most rust/damage. I would like to see some good jack stands under the car instead of the cinder blocks. Regardless, good job and keep up the great work. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. driving.gif
TX914
Awesome video! That'll be an fun project. I wish I had that much enthusiasm removing rocker panels. smile.gif
Rleog
Frances, you’re soooo cool; loads of personality! Well done with those outer longitudinals. They’re in very good shape.

Your Dad is an excellent videographer, but you make it fun by how expressive you are.

Looking forward to the next video.
shag
I think you and your project are wonderful. Good luck.
John
Shivers
Well, good for you. Doesn't hurt to learn to work with your hands. This time with your Dad, well mine always worked, so I didn't know him. Shake your Dad's hand for me and tell him " Good job , Dad "
Superhawk996
QUOTE(Frankvw @ Nov 26 2020, 04:33 AM) *

Hi ! Great video again.
Your rockers and covers are in great shape ! all can be re-used.
and to answer your question : "Am I the only person with a Porsche on blocks?"....welll....NO ! smile.gif
But most if us have it on jackstands at same point and not on blocks, but the idea is the same.
Keep up the good work !!


Alright, I don't want to be the grinch that stole Thansgiving but am I the only one concerned about how the car is supported by cinder blocks?

I'm hoping there are jackstands somewhere.

Really enjoy these videos but don't want to see anyone get hurt. Please work safely.

Cinder blocks are not for supporting cars. Worse yet, they are stacked sideways.

Cinder blocks are designed to support compression load in a vertical direction (hollow cores oriented vertically). Even then they aren't terribly robust to side loading. Stacking them sideways is the worst possible way to use them assuming that they are the only thing at hand and that you must use them.

Concrete doesn't yield with any warning. It simply collapses almost instantaneously.

Please consider obtaining a set of jack stands.
mepstein
QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Nov 26 2020, 11:49 AM) *

QUOTE(Frankvw @ Nov 26 2020, 04:33 AM) *

Hi ! Great video again.
Your rockers and covers are in great shape ! all can be re-used.
and to answer your question : "Am I the only person with a Porsche on blocks?"....welll....NO ! smile.gif
But most if us have it on jackstands at same point and not on blocks, but the idea is the same.
Keep up the good work !!


Alright, I don't want to be the grinch that stole Thansgiving but am I the only one concerned about how the car is supported by cinder blocks?

I'm hoping there are jackstands somewhere.

Really enjoy these videos but don't want to see anyone get hurt. Please work safely.

Cinder blocks are not for supporting cars. Worse yet, they are stacked sideways.

Cinder blocks are designed to support compression load in a vertical direction (hollow cores oriented vertically). Even then they aren't terribly robust to side loading. Stacking them sideways is the worst possible way to use them assuming that they are the only thing at hand and that you must use them.

Concrete doesn't yield with any warning. It simply collapses almost instantaneously.

Please consider obtaining a set of jack stands.

Yes, loved the video but the cinder blocks made me cringe.
Gint
I love it. Awesome video. One more like for you. I love your enthusiasm.

It's perfectly normal to find a bunch of dirt and crud under your 914's rocker covers. It looks like there was surprising little rust, and that's great. That one you pulled off is usable. You might want to weld up that crack. How far you go from there really depends on what your intention is for the project. Full restoration or refurb and return to the road ASAP.

And yes, I hate the cinder blocks too. Fortunately that looks like a mostly empty tub, but still, better safe than sorry.
KELTY360
QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 26 2020, 09:13 AM) *

QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Nov 26 2020, 11:49 AM) *

QUOTE(Frankvw @ Nov 26 2020, 04:33 AM) *

Hi ! Great video again.
Your rockers and covers are in great shape ! all can be re-used.
and to answer your question : "Am I the only person with a Porsche on blocks?"....welll....NO ! smile.gif
But most if us have it on jackstands at same point and not on blocks, but the idea is the same.
Keep up the good work !!


Alright, I don't want to be the grinch that stole Thansgiving but am I the only one concerned about how the car is supported by cinder blocks?

I'm hoping there are jackstands somewhere.

Really enjoy these videos but don't want to see anyone get hurt. Please work safely.

Cinder blocks are not for supporting cars. Worse yet, they are stacked sideways.

Cinder blocks are designed to support compression load in a vertical direction (hollow cores oriented vertically). Even then they aren't terribly robust to side loading. Stacking them sideways is the worst possible way to use them assuming that they are the only thing at hand and that you must use them.

Concrete doesn't yield with any warning. It simply collapses almost instantaneously.

Please consider obtaining a set of jack stands.

Yes, loved the video but the cinder blocks made me cringe.


agree.gif Yup, put the jackstands at the top of your Xmas list. Besides, it will make you part of a very large contingent of 914 owners. biggrin.gif Be sure to get the kind that secure the support with a pin....NO RATCHET STYLE STANDS. Those cinder blocks are strictly for rednecks working on old pickups.

Thanks for the great videos...you do know you're a star in the 914 world, don't you?
iankarr
Great video! We've all had that look when we remove the rockers for the first time and realize they're dirt traps wink.gif.

Keep it up, Frances. You're a joy to watch.
slivel
Nice video and as others have said, the cinder blocks are not the safest way to elevate the car. The blocks are not even used in the position of maximum strength. They don't build structures with the blocks on the side like the video shows.
bkrantz
If your budget allows, get these. They will help keep you safe for your lifetime.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0019JVIP...=UTF8&psc=1
TINKERGINEERING
QUOTE(Frankvw @ Nov 26 2020, 01:33 AM) *

Hi ! Great video again.
Your rockers and covers are in great shape ! all can be re-used.
and to answer your question : "Am I the only person with a Porsche on blocks?"....welll....NO ! smile.gif
But most if us have it on jackstands at same point and not on blocks, but the idea is the same.
Keep up the good work !!

Ahh! Thanks cleaning them up is next!
TINKERGINEERING
QUOTE(slivel @ Nov 26 2020, 12:50 PM) *

Nice video and as others have said, the cinder blocks are not the safest way to elevate the car. The blocks are not even used in the position of maximum strength. They don't build structures with the blocks on the side like the video shows.

Thanks for the heads up! Taking them out!
TINKERGINEERING
QUOTE(iankarr @ Nov 26 2020, 12:14 PM) *

Great video! We've all had that look when we remove the rockers for the first time and realize they're dirt traps wink.gif.

Keep it up, Frances. You're a joy to watch.

Hello! Thanks for check in here. I wonder if they can be closed off from dirt?
mepstein
QUOTE(TINKERGINEERING @ Nov 26 2020, 10:14 PM) *

QUOTE(iankarr @ Nov 26 2020, 12:14 PM) *

Great video! We've all had that look when we remove the rockers for the first time and realize they're dirt traps wink.gif.

Keep it up, Frances. You're a joy to watch.

Hello! Thanks for check in here. I wonder if they can be closed off from dirt?

They were originally installed with plastic rivets so they could be easily removed and maintained. 914rubber has the plastic rivets.
TINKERGINEERING
QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Nov 26 2020, 10:25 AM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 26 2020, 09:13 AM) *

QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Nov 26 2020, 11:49 AM) *

QUOTE(Frankvw @ Nov 26 2020, 04:33 AM) *

Hi ! Great video again.
Your rockers and covers are in great shape ! all can be re-used.
and to answer your question : "Am I the only person with a Porsche on blocks?"....welll....NO ! smile.gif
But most if us have it on jackstands at same point and not on blocks, but the idea is the same.
Keep up the good work !!


Alright, I don't want to be the grinch that stole Thansgiving but am I the only one concerned about how the car is supported by cinder blocks?

I'm hoping there are jackstands somewhere.

Really enjoy these videos but don't want to see anyone get hurt. Please work safely.

Cinder blocks are not for supporting cars. Worse yet, they are stacked sideways.

Cinder blocks are designed to support compression load in a vertical direction (hollow cores oriented vertically). Even then they aren't terribly robust to side loading. Stacking them sideways is the worst possible way to use them assuming that they are the only thing at hand and that you must use them.

Concrete doesn't yield with any warning. It simply collapses almost instantaneously.

Please consider obtaining a set of jack stands.

Yes, loved the video but the cinder blocks made me cringe.


agree.gif Yup, put the jackstands at the top of your Xmas list. Besides, it will make you part of a very large contingent of 914 owners. biggrin.gif Be sure to get the kind that secure the support with a pin....NO RATCHET STYLE STANDS. Those cinder blocks are strictly for rednecks working on old pickups.

Thanks for the great videos...you do know you're a star in the 914 world, don't you?


Done and Done! The blocks are out and real jacks are on their way!
Thanks for the info here you guys!
Superhawk996
QUOTE(TINKERGINEERING @ Nov 26 2020, 10:19 PM) *


The blocks are out and real jacks are on their way!



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Keep the great videos coming. Love seeing Frances working on the car and the excitement doing it.
bkrantz
QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 26 2020, 08:17 PM) *

QUOTE(TINKERGINEERING @ Nov 26 2020, 10:14 PM) *

QUOTE(iankarr @ Nov 26 2020, 12:14 PM) *

Great video! We've all had that look when we remove the rockers for the first time and realize they're dirt traps wink.gif.

Keep it up, Frances. You're a joy to watch.

Hello! Thanks for check in here. I wonder if they can be closed off from dirt?

They were originally installed with plastic rivets so they could be easily removed and maintained. 914rubber has the plastic rivets.


Level 1 maintenance is to squirt the inside of the outer rocker from the rear wheel well at every car wash.

Level 2 is to undo the bolts along the bottom which should allow just a bit of clearance to squirt the inside better.

Levvel 3 is to completely remove the outer rockers completely.
porsche914rick
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Rick o
Rand
Who's kid is this? Lol. Nice production. Come on pops, identify yourself.
TINKERGINEERING
QUOTE(Rand @ Nov 27 2020, 11:04 PM) *

Who's kid is this? Lol. Nice production. Come on pops, identify yourself.

Hey! Thanks for the kind words. Here’s Dad and I. I don’t let him touch the car, cameras -that’s okay av-943.gif
Superhawk996
cheer.gif Great lifelong memories being made right there!
Mikey914
Cool thing is with the internet her grand kids will be able to see exactly what they did!
Seriously, keep up the good work, let us know if we can help out any further!
And
Happy Holidays!
MM1
Wholesome family fun!
Rand
QUOTE
Here’s Dad and I

That would be dad and me. But I only say that to just applaud your continual learning at EVERY subject. That is so important later. Never stop! You are really doing so much more than average, so always keep stretching yourself, but also keep learning on every subject on every level as much as you can. Don't stop being a standout! (Also stay humble).

Way to go Dad!
TINKERGINEERING
QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 26 2020, 07:17 PM) *

QUOTE(TINKERGINEERING @ Nov 26 2020, 10:14 PM) *

QUOTE(iankarr @ Nov 26 2020, 12:14 PM) *

Great video! We've all had that look when we remove the rockers for the first time and realize they're dirt traps wink.gif.

Keep it up, Frances. You're a joy to watch.

Hello! Thanks for check in here. I wonder if they can be closed off from dirt?

They were originally installed with plastic rivets so they could be easily removed and maintained. 914rubber has the plastic rivets.

OHH! thats a perfect idea.
Such A mess
thanks!
TINKERGINEERING
QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Dec 1 2020, 10:24 AM) *

cheer.gif Great lifelong memories being made right there!

biggrin.gif
TINKERGINEERING
QUOTE(Rand @ Dec 1 2020, 10:18 PM) *

QUOTE
Here’s Dad and I

That would be dad and me. But I only say that to just applaud your continual learning at EVERY subject. That is so important later. Never stop! You are really doing so much more than average, so always keep stretching yourself, but also keep learning on every subject on every level as much as you can. Don't stop being a standout! (Also stay humble).

Way to go Dad!

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TINKERGINEERING
QUOTE(porsche914rick @ Nov 27 2020, 06:41 PM) *

piratenanner.gif

Rick o

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TINKERGINEERING
QUOTE(MM1 @ Dec 1 2020, 05:05 PM) *

Wholesome family fun!

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TINKERGINEERING
QUOTE(Rleog @ Nov 26 2020, 05:36 AM) *

Frances, you’re soooo cool; loads of personality! Well done with those outer longitudinals. They’re in very good shape.

Your Dad is an excellent videographer, but you make it fun by how expressive you are.

Looking forward to the next video.

biggrin.gif Hey Thanks for watching!
TINKERGINEERING
QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Dec 1 2020, 10:38 AM) *

Cool thing is with the internet her grand kids will be able to see exactly what they did!
Seriously, keep up the good work, let us know if we can help out any further!
And
Happy Holidays!

Hey! Thanks so much! Things are getting easier. or just faster. 914World is super passionate about things. It's better than google!
Bye
Dad says hi as well. Almost done with the highlight video... driving-girl.gif
TINKERGINEERING
QUOTE(bkrantz @ Nov 27 2020, 06:34 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 26 2020, 08:17 PM) *

QUOTE(TINKERGINEERING @ Nov 26 2020, 10:14 PM) *

QUOTE(iankarr @ Nov 26 2020, 12:14 PM) *

Great video! We've all had that look when we remove the rockers for the first time and realize they're dirt traps wink.gif.

Keep it up, Frances. You're a joy to watch.

Hello! Thanks for check in here. I wonder if they can be closed off from dirt?

They were originally installed with plastic rivets so they could be easily removed and maintained. 914rubber has the plastic rivets.


Level 1 maintenance is to squirt the inside of the outer rocker from the rear wheel well at every car wash.

Level 2 is to undo the bolts along the bottom which should allow just a bit of clearance to squirt the inside better.

Levvel 3 is to completely remove the outer rockers completely.
cover them up for good maybe!
brant
Amazing thread !

What’s next on your maintenance list?

What parts do you need?
JeffBowlsby
QUOTE(TINKERGINEERING @ Dec 2 2020, 08:31 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 26 2020, 07:17 PM) *

QUOTE(TINKERGINEERING @ Nov 26 2020, 10:14 PM) *

QUOTE(iankarr @ Nov 26 2020, 12:14 PM) *

Great video! We've all had that look when we remove the rockers for the first time and realize they're dirt traps wink.gif.

Keep it up, Frances. You're a joy to watch.

Hello! Thanks for check in here. I wonder if they can be closed off from dirt?

They were originally installed with plastic rivets so they could be easily removed and maintained. 914rubber has the plastic rivets.

OHH! thats a perfect idea.
Such A mess
thanks!


Actually, the rockers (side valences) were and should be installed with 1/8 in aluminum pop rivets which drill out easily to remove the valence. The threshold plates above the valence were and should be installed with plastic rivets (black for the later cars) which can be removed and reused.
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