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Dr. Roger	Jun 16 2005, 12:44 AM Post #1
A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California	In summary: Found the car on Craigslist. Low mile, low rust, straight body. No holes in the hell hole. Longs are clean. A small miracle. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) After seeing Rick's "Alien" build, Felix's "Neo 914", and meeting "JLo", Andyrew, Sir Andy and other's rides.... I just gotta' get'er done!

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Dr. Roger	Jul 23 2005, 11:40 PM Post #101
A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California	Yea' thanks guys. I'm really looking forward to startin' them up together too. I tried to get those Vette' C5 mufflers crammed up in there but I think it's not going to happen. Their friggin' huge. I will bring them to a professional shop and maybe they have an idea or two about how to make them fit. My cabinet maker friend was saying, "no way in hell, man". I would like to disagree but..... =-)))) LOL.... I'm might end up paying someone for that part of the project.... Unless someone needs some welding practice..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

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Jul 24 2005, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE (John2kx @ Jul 23 2005, 09:53 AM)

Congradulations!!!! It looks like that carb just might fit under engine lid too.

John

Hey John,

Yes, I believe the carb will just clear the boot. That means I can actually do my low rise solutino for a cool air intake. That's not going to happen until she's on the road and shaken down. Ya know what I mean?

It looks so pretty in there I'm now thinking of vented plexi glasss like the new Farrari's engine hatch's. KIDDING>>>>>>>>> =-)

A few nights ago I got the water pump tapped, fittings taped and installed, and temporarily placed where it needs to go for proper hose fitment and mounting.

Look, I said, "Mounting"....... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif) hehhehehhehee

Sorry, last few nights have been great.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

Dr. Roger	Jul 27 2005, 02:11 PM Post #103
A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California	Yesterday I picked most of the fittings/parts for plumbing the cooling system. Tomorrow night I begin cutting for, and hanging, water lines under the car. So if I understand correctly... 1. I pop the plate off under the rack and pinion 2. Estimate where the pipes need to come through the front of the trunk 3. Cut hole in trunk for pipes. (Arghhhhh. More cutting. I hate cutting perfectly good metal away. ) 4. Get over it. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif)

tat2dphreak	Jul 27 2005, 02:16 PM Post #104
stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region	(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) looks great man!!

John2kx	Jul 27 2005, 02:29 PM Post #105
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 502 Joined: 22-August 03 From: Augusta, Ga. Member No.: 1,066	Roger, You've got the procedure right. Here's a pic that may help. I recommend drilling a small pilot hole for each hose and checking from under the car to ensure no issues. I cut my holes 1/4" larger that the hose used and installed a grommet to prevent chaffing. If your using two different size hoses (I did), think about which size goes in which hole for proper routing to/from radiator. John Attached image(s)

Dr. Roger	Jul 27 2005, 02:39 PM Post #106
A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California	Dang John, That is the prettiest front trunk. Great idea using pilot holes. Will do. Where did you get grommets that large?

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Jul 27 2005, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE (rogergrubb @ Jul 27 2005, 12:39 PM)

Dang John,

That is the prettiest front trunk.

Great idea using pilot holes. Will do.

Where did you get grommets that large?

Thanks for the kudos. I made the trip to Vegas and took many pics of Scott's car which helped in just about every area of the conversion.

I picked up my grommets at Lowe's in the electrical section. Could not find the exact size I needed so ended up cutting the largest size they had, spreading the opening on the underside of hose and filling the remaining section with another piece of same size grommet.......if that made any sense.

If you've got your drivetrain installed and radiator mounted, the hose routing is about the easiest part of installation.

I'll attach a few more pics to give you some ideas. The clamps used to secure hose to chassis are also from Lowe's. If I had a nickel for every trip made there during the conversion.

John

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John2kx	Jul 27 2005, 04:34 PM Post #108
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 502 Joined: 22-August 03 From: Augusta, Ga. Member No.: 1,066	dfgfdg Attached image(s)

John2kx	Jul 27 2005, 04:36 PM Post #109
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John2kx	Jul 27 2005, 04:40 PM Post #110
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 502 Joined: 22-August 03 From: Augusta, Ga. Member No.: 1,066	This is my best front trunk shot. Krylon rattle can in fact......just take your time doing the prep work. It started off looking just as bad as the majority in the beginning. Attached image(s)

Andyrew	Jul 27 2005, 04:40 PM Post #111
Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California	Roger, I strongly suggest picking up a set of Magnaflows. The C6's will not fit by any means And magnaflows just sound awesome... I know you've heard em.. but here are some clips of them with shorty headers. 2.5 in. http://members.rennlist.com/dan10101/v8%20...und%20check.mpg http://www.teamgracer.com/cars/videos/scca91605.wmv

John2kx	Jul 27 2005, 04:43 PM Post #112
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 502 Joined: 22-August 03 From: Augusta, Ga. Member No.: 1,066	Picked up a digital camera during the middle of the front trunk job and this is one of the few taken during that process. As you can see, I had to weld in a new piece to cover the hole left by dealer installed a/c. Attached image(s)

John2kx	Jul 27 2005, 04:47 PM Post #113
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 502 Joined: 22-August 03 From: Augusta, Ga. Member No.: 1,066	Last one.........after about 3 weekends of sanding, having filler piece added, painting, only to have to paint again for not waiting the prescribed time before adding additional coats @#$%. Note to self: follow the instructions provided. Hope some of these help. Keep us posted on your progress and feel free to post progress pictures. Believe me, you'll regret not taking pictures down the road. John Attached image(s)

kgb	Jul 29 2005, 12:25 AM Post #114
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 8-May 05 From: Roy Ut Member No.: 4,045	Thought that I would add my .02 with this thread after reading it all when I built my exhaust for my V8 I used a dual in dual out Flowmaster fit great behind the tranny and had to cut the heat sheild but it looked like it was soposto be there and it had the Flowmaster sound. I'd have a picture but I sold the car and am forever looking for another. Edit Found another picture you can see the exhaust tip thats about it Attached image(s)

Dr. Roger	Jul 29 2005, 01:07 AM Post #115
A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California	Hey KGB,,, Yea', KGB.... Brings back many good memories..... Are we talking about the same KGB??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) Heck yea', I like those exhaust tips and I really like those wheels!! Where can I pick up some like those??? I want to flare my 914 but my fenders are so nice as they are. I'm afraid another club member might slap me for screwing with some already good fenders. Maybe I should try to swap some aftermarket flaired fenders for these good steel stock fenders.... I just do not like the GT flairs... I do like those Roger whatzhisnames flairs. Thanks for the advice on mufflers Andy and KGB. Love the videos as always. =-))) Andy, so if you were the one screaming like a school girl in the video who was driving? LOL (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) KIDDING....... =-) I just remembered... How am I supossed to do the throttle linkage? There was none with the car. I bought a stock 914 cable to replace the cut off one but now I'm not getting how it's routed... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

kgb	Jul 29 2005, 01:15 AM Post #116
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 8-May 05 From: Roy Ut Member No.: 4,045	Don't know what KGB your refering to, its my initials so thats why I use it (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) the wheels were on it when I bought it and they are very high dollar extremly expensive, VW Baja rims (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

Dr. Roger	Jul 29 2005, 01:39 AM Post #117
A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California	Oh sorry. That used to be our secret acronym for "killer green bud". Guess it's no secret now.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif) VW Baja rims. Right on. Thanks. =-)))

kgb	Jul 29 2005, 01:42 AM Post #118
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 8-May 05 From: Roy Ut Member No.: 4,045	Yeah I once owned a shirt that had that on it but I liked it cause it was my initials.

ewdysar	Jul 29 2005, 02:14 AM Post #119
What happens here, stays here. Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Altadena, CA Member No.: 3,030	Rog, Don't worry about your fenders, the rest of what you've done will get you slapped by those who would care about the fenders. Isn't weird, I'm still woried about making my car "right", as close to stock as possible, except the SBC, the 911 front suspension, power windows, 911 style gauges, flared fenders, 5 lug Fuchs rims, 911 flag mirrors, suspension upgrades, chassis stiffening, etc. etc. I look at some stuff and think I wouldn't do that to a 914... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif) Eric

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Jul 29 2005, 06:42 AM

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QUOTE (rogergrubb @ Jul 28 2005, 11:07 PM)

I just remembered... How am I supossed to do the throttle linkage? There was none with the car. I bought a stock 914 cable to replace the cut off one but now I'm not getting how it's routed... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

Roger,

I routed my stock throttle linkage between front of engine and engine compartment bulkhead in this manner: My throttle cable is the one covered with a extra "red" sheath in pic.......this is to sheild heat from headers.

Where it exits the stock location at bottom of bulkhead, allow cable to run straight until it is past all belts (water pump, alt. etc.). From here you can start routing it up toward intake manifold. I attached cable with a few tie wraps to some of the other cables (speedometer, clutch) where it makes the 90 degree turn at bottom to prevent it from getting caught up in belts/pulleys.

Then start routing toward drivers side and "behind" the mounting bracket for the accessory you have on this side (water pump or alternator). Again, this is to prevent any interferance with pulleys and throttle cable.

From here it's a pretty straight shot to carb. I used one of the brackets supplied with my new holley carb to secure cable to engine. I believe the bracket I used is part of the kickdown bracket on some cars. The bracket needed a 90 degree twist to work in my application. Note in pics, bracket is attached to one side of thermostat housing.

Attachment at carb was also made by using a piece supplied with new carb. I would have preferred a better clevis for this connection but its what I had at the moment and worked fine.

If I were to do this again, I'd buy a longer throttle cable and route back to where engine/transaxle meet, and start my upward path to engine compartment from here. Reason for this new path is more room to work and fewer obstacles to avoid.

Hope the pics help.

John

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