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> Remove Engine, How High Do I Need to Lift the Car to Get Engine Out
badboybear
post Feb 2 2011, 11:57 AM
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[size=3]How high do I need jack the car up to take the engine out from the bottom? Does anyone have a diagram for removing the engine....what bolts & where to remove, want to drop tranny & motor at once...hopefully.

Also where do I look or go to get a "repair kit" for the HELL HOLE. Told there is a metal replacment type piece? Thanks all,

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post Feb 2 2011, 12:04 PM
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Go to914 info at thhe top and click on Tech articles. Thats how I dropped mine good luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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post Feb 2 2011, 12:09 PM
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I don't know the excact height but it's in the 18" range. Depending o the jack or dolly that you are going to use to set the engine on will determine the height.

most of the bolts and nuts will be 10-14 mm. with the exception of the main motor mount and the trans. mount bolts which are 17mmIIRC.

The motor is not difficult to remove, just make sure everything is disconnected and it will drop right down.

with NO experience at doing this, it's about a 2.5 hour job.

For the seasoned "pro" 45min to an 1.5 hours alone.
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post Feb 2 2011, 12:17 PM
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While I dont have an exact height to jack the car up to I can offer some tips.
Disconnect fuel lines, clutch & throttle cables, battery, CVs (they dont need to be removed but must pass over the engine) & trans ground strap + any misc wiring the engine may have & any emission hoses.

1st dont raise the car so high that your jack wont reach the eng/trans.
2nd it is helpful to remove the air cleaner and injectors (injectors may catch on the suspension "ears")
3rd drop it as a package eng/trans


I place a 3/4" thick piece of plywood on the jack and center it near the fly wheel, maybe slightly forward. It is helpful to have a friend or two during the removal process, however it can be done solo.

Check Auto Atlanta or Restoration Design for you replacement parts.

With some experience the engine can be removed in an hour and a half to two hours (or less time in some garages)

I find it easier to disconnect the trans mounts instead of the nuts off of the 2 mounting bolts.

Good luck, it's only scary the first time.


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post Feb 2 2011, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(tradisrad @ Feb 2 2011, 10:17 AM) *

While I dont have an exact height to jack the car up to I can offer some tips.
Disconnect fuel lines, clutch & throttle cables, battery, CVs (they dont need to be removed but must pass over the engine) & trans ground strap + any misc wiring the engine may have & any emission hoses.

1st dont raise the car so high that your jack wont reach the eng/trans.
2nd it is helpful to remove the air cleaner and injectors (injectors may catch on the suspension "ears")
3rd drop it as a package eng/trans


I place a 3/4" thick piece of plywood on the jack and center it near the fly wheel, maybe slightly forward. It is helpful to have a friend or two during the removal process, however it can be done solo.

Check Auto Atlanta or Restoration Design for you replacement parts.

With some experience the engine can be removed in an hour and a half to two hours (or less time in some garages)

I find it easier to disconnect the trans mounts instead of the nuts off of the 2 mounting bolts.

Good luck, it's only scary the first time.



Thanks & yes scared...sort of, not like getting married...LOL. I will also check out the tech articles and the other places mentioned. Appreciate all very much....stay tuned I know I'm gonna bust a knuckle...OUCH! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif)
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post Feb 2 2011, 12:44 PM
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I'm gonna bust a knuckle...OUCH! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif)

Nah, no blood required.
Check your CV bolts; they should be a 12pt (triple square) socket, although they may have been replaced with the incorrect regular Allen socket. This is a "special" tool that you may need.
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post Feb 2 2011, 01:30 PM
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Oh.... AND drain the oil FIRST ;-)

I used to be able to do the whole job in 1 hour with a carb engine.
FI is just a little more complicated.

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post Feb 2 2011, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(stugray @ Feb 2 2011, 11:30 AM) *

Oh.... AND drain the oil FIRST ;-)

I used to be able to do the whole job in 1 hour with a carb engine.
FI is just a little more complicated.

Stu


Thanks guys...really do appreciate it & we'll drain ALL fluids first...lol

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post Feb 2 2011, 02:51 PM
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There is a good article on the PP site "engine drop made easy". I just used it a few weeks ago on my first engine drop...did it solo, no issues. I did need to get it pretty high up, around 30" with the rear valance removed if I remember right...but I could also have removed more from teh engine first.

Watch out for it getting hung up on the suspension console...it is a REALLY tight fit going down.

be patient, and you'll be fine, good luck!
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post Feb 2 2011, 02:52 PM
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914 Engine Removal Made Easy
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/9...engine_drop.htm
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post Feb 2 2011, 03:47 PM
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Don't forget the tranny ground strap..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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post Feb 2 2011, 04:22 PM
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Oh, and use zip ties or coat hangers to hold the axles up in the air (or take them all the way off) and put sandwich baggies over the CVs or you will end up with grease everywhere.

Trying to work around them is a PITA.

"Don't forget the tranny ground strap...."

Oh, no you can forget it....... it will just tear off or leave the tranny hanging and you wonder "what the heck"..... BTDT
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post Feb 2 2011, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(detoxcowboy @ Feb 2 2011, 12:52 PM) *


Downloaded info and thanks guys...ladies if your out there. I won't forget the tranny ground strap either...hope this works. Things we do to save a buck...lol!!

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post Feb 2 2011, 09:17 PM
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The higher the better!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


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post Feb 2 2011, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(tradisrad @ Feb 2 2011, 10:44 AM) *

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I'm gonna bust a knuckle...OUCH! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif)

Nah, no blood required.
Check your CV bolts; they should be a 12pt (triple square) socket, although they may have been replaced with the incorrect regular Allen socket. This is a "special" tool that you may need.

WAHT!! all 914's require a blood offering before leaving the jackstands...might as well get it out of the way now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) good luck..i have used the pelican method a few times on my own just take your time and check everyhting twice... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Dave
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post Feb 2 2011, 10:43 PM
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I took 4 1" 16gauge tubes and drilled some holes through them. Just long enough to bolt to the front hubs and keep the disks off the ground.

If you drop the front of the car a bit, you don't have to jack it up as high at the middle of the car. Don't have to use chalks in the front either.
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post Feb 2 2011, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(Scarlet75 @ Feb 2 2011, 10:04 AM) *

Go to914 info at thhe top and click on Tech articles. Thats how I dropped mine good luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

This was good advice ... It's all here ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

http://www.914world.com/specs/tech_engdrop1.php
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post Sep 2 2011, 11:47 AM
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Experts, I have a couple of questions:

What are special instructions for cars with carbs?

What are special instructions for using a lift to remove the engine?

Thanks, I may be trying my first engine drop this weekend.
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post Sep 2 2011, 12:01 PM
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damn scary high for a V8 - slightly less for a 4.

be sure to check the front wheels very well.

and go under as briefly as possible.


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post Sep 2 2011, 12:09 PM
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Do I see antifreeze on the driveway? Be sure to keep your dogs away!

QUOTE(jimkelly @ Sep 2 2011, 02:01 PM) *

damn scary high for a V8 - slightly less for a 4.

be sure to check the front wheels very well.

and go under as briefly as possible.

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