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Radar Detectors, Do they really work with "instant -on" technology ? |
jim_hoyland |
Oct 28 2011, 05:52 PM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,417 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
Used to be a radar detector would pick up signals from a radar gun in standy-by mode. If they aimed it down the road in your general direction, the detector would go crazy.
Most of the cops in our area now use instant on, seems like you only get a signal if it's aimed at you. That's not a lot of warning. Are the new radar detectors reliable enough to avoid getting caught ? Attached image(s) |
underthetire |
Oct 28 2011, 07:01 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
Only if they are hitting the guy in front of you.
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AndyB |
Oct 28 2011, 07:10 PM
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The Governor is watching me Group: Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: 10-April 10 From: Philadelphia New York Member No.: 11,595 Region Association: North East States |
Here is my $.02 I have had one speeding ticket in the past 23 years. When I got it I had a radar detector. Since then I have not used one and have not had a ticket.
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RickS |
Oct 28 2011, 08:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,408 Joined: 17-April 06 From: 'False City', WA Member No.: 5,880 Region Association: None |
I have used a Valentine One for several years with nary a ticket. The detector is not a cloaking device or insurance but just another level of detection beyond your eyes and good judgement (i.e not speeding full time in the left lane). Now to your question, yes instant on radar, and laser will only tell you that you have been busted. But in some states which use Ka-Band radar, like WA, OR, CA - I can pick up cruisers using full time radar 2 miles away, front and rear as well as those that flip it on momentarily to check approaching traffic. Like I said it doesn't replace being attentive, but it is like a sixth sense and could save you a ticket from the non-instant-on radar/laser, so it really depends what they use in your area.
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campbellcj |
Oct 28 2011, 10:07 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,573 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
My V1 has saved my hide countless times -- my commute takes me through LA County Sheriff and Santa Monica PD revenue alley, otherwise known as PCH. Nowadays they use laser, which the V1 or any other detector I know of can only detect when it's already aimed at you and it's too late to take action if you were speeding.
Ka-band radar is still widely used too and a detector is a handy thing to have on road trips. |
ConeDodger |
Oct 29 2011, 07:19 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,757 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
I think the reason modern radar detectors work against 'instant on' radar is that you aren't the only one targeted and your detector goes off because some poor fool three blocks ahead just got zapped. That is your warning.
One of the coolest innovations I have seen is the detector that doubles as a GPS navigation system with red light camera warning and speed trap warnings. That's a group buy I would be down for... |
JMKnight |
Oct 29 2011, 08:25 AM
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Aces & Eights Group: Members Posts: 135 Joined: 30-December 09 From: Northern Indiana Member No.: 11,188 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I have been saved a couple of times with my BEL, but it seems like the instant on stuff would have caused me trouble.
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Elliot Cannon |
Oct 29 2011, 08:42 AM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
...Or as my Son says, "Dad, why don't you just drive the speed limit"? I wanted to smack him but he's a lot bigger than me now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
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a914dude |
Oct 29 2011, 08:42 AM
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Wanker Group: Members Posts: 247 Joined: 18-September 10 From: Saskatoon Member No.: 12,191 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
If aimed at you, Laser will nail you. Fortunately, cops are lazy and even with instant on they tend to rely on the Ka and K band radars that stay on all the time.
Laser does splatter so, you can detect it when the guys ahead of you get tagged. SO, never lead the pack. |
Elliot Cannon |
Oct 29 2011, 08:44 AM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
If aimed at you, Laser will nail you. Fortunately, cops are lazy and even with instant on they tend to rely on the Ka and K band radars that stay on all the time. Laser does splatter so, you can detect it when the guys ahead of you get tagged. SO, never lead the pack. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Stay behind the idiot in the M5. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
campbellcj |
Oct 29 2011, 09:24 AM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,573 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
It definitely helps to have a 'sleeper' car. The conspicuous sports cars and hot rods seem to attract more than their fair share of trouble around here. Give me a white 4-door Audi over a red Mustang GT convertible any day as far as ticket risk goes...
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RickS |
Oct 29 2011, 09:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,408 Joined: 17-April 06 From: 'False City', WA Member No.: 5,880 Region Association: None |
9 other ways to avoid getting tickets - all of which I try to abide by: http://autos.aol.com/article/how-to-avoid-a-speeding-ticket/
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Spoke |
Oct 30 2011, 08:55 AM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 7,052 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
I have an Escort radar detector with an early laser detector as well. Haven't used it in years and haven't gotten a ticket.
NJ still uses constant-on radar and it's easy to pick up. PA has gone to instant-on radar and the only thing a radar detector will tell you is if you just got caught. Anymore, I stay within 10MPH of the speed limit. I do way too much driving to always have to worry about the police around the next bend or at the bottom of the next hill. Seems like in PA the State Police are looking for big numbers. So in a 65MPH zone, they're looking for speeds starting with 8 or higher. |
computers4kids |
Oct 30 2011, 09:25 AM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
Do police really pull over 914s for speeding? Seriously. Whenever I've been in a questionable group of speeding vehicles, Police seem to pull over anyone but me--it's like I'm invisible. I assume they think my car can't speed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Now, I'm talking stock looking 914s...not the flared cars with the sign hanging on the rear bumper saying "I like to speed, pull me over." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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stugray |
Oct 30 2011, 10:59 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,825 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
"Do police really pull over 914s for speeding?"
I was once accused of trying to run from the police in my 914. I just had to say "Yeah RIGHT in a 71 1.8L Volkswagen????" Charges dropped...... |
Katmanken |
Oct 30 2011, 01:18 PM
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You haven't seen me if anybody asks... Group: Members Posts: 4,738 Joined: 14-June 03 From: USA Member No.: 819 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Real hardcore speeders use stealth technologies.
Hitachi microwave oven paint is good at absorbing radiated energy. 3-4 layers of special paints have been designed to absorb crtain frequencies of laser energies. Yer flat surface of a license plate needs to be angled to reflect both light and microwaves to a safe place, or covered with an energy absorber. And, the real hardcore guys I knew built radar jammers that send back a signal to the sender. One guy liked to send back a "55" mph signal, another guy liked "0" mph, and another guy liked "-55" mph. They did military jammers for a living. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Ken |
jsayre914 |
Oct 30 2011, 04:52 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,199 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
"Do police really pull over 914s for speeding?" I got popped on I-83 southbound into baltimore going 85mph. The officer was sitting in a new spot (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I had the top off and music cranked, pulled over and waited for the ticket. All I could think was WOW this little car still has it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
bobforman |
Oct 30 2011, 07:12 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 7-April 09 From: Seattle Member No.: 10,242 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
[font=Times New Roman][size=7]My V1 is probably ten years old. To update the software Valentine wants about the same as the price for a new one. I like the idea of a group buy for one of the new GPS units.
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clapeza |
Oct 30 2011, 08:41 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 229 Joined: 7-February 11 From: South GA Member No.: 12,677 Region Association: South East States |
[font=Times New Roman][size=7]My V1 is probably ten years old. To update the software Valentine wants about the same as the price for a new one. I like the idea of a group buy for one of the new GPS units. I've got one of the Escort GPS-equipped models. It's been very sensitive, and has saved me on several occasions. I don't usually drive "fast" as much as I drive "quick"... which it where my Cayman and the 914 excel. The RD has found itself living in my wife's minivan, our main "long distance" vehicle. I got mine a couple years back through a group buy arranged through a Porsche dealer in Texas. I got it $100 off. The best part is that it learns where the false alarms are as you drive around town. Three X or K signals in the same place gets recorded as a false alarm, and you never hear it again. |
RickS |
Oct 30 2011, 11:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,408 Joined: 17-April 06 From: 'False City', WA Member No.: 5,880 Region Association: None |
A $650 radar detector? Think I will wait until the techology is more widespread/mature and the price comes down out of the stratosphere.
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