Redrilling early hubs for 5 lug.., different boss heights? |
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Redrilling early hubs for 5 lug.., different boss heights? |
bondo |
Jan 19 2005, 02:54 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
I got me a set of early hubs. I am redrilling for 5 lugs, and don't want to screw this up. It looks to me that one of the original 4 lug bolt holes will need to become a stud hole, and then the other 4 stud holes will end up on a boss. The thing is the original threaded 4 lug bolt holes are through thicker bosses. Should I just mill down the one I'm using to the same height as the other bosses? Should I mill them all down to the same level? Should I leave it alone and have one stud stick out less?
(I have access to a mill and a degreed rotary table, so I'm not worried about alignment issues) |
sixnotfour |
Jan 19 2005, 03:50 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,441 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
They all need a spot face so the stud pulls square. youchoice on the fourth one, Have you looked at Eric's method ? The way to go and you dont have to worry.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...=ST&f=4&t=21671 |
Mueller |
Jan 19 2005, 03:51 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
I'd spot face them all to be the same height
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Joe Bob |
Jan 19 2005, 03:54 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
"early" hubs have spots for all five studs....they were the same for the 914/6 and the four bangers....you have late hubs.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif)
Not that it's a bad thing...."I" mill them all flat when using the later hubs. Never had one fail. I miked a 911 hub on my 83 and it's within a RCH of the 914 later hubs.....so I wouldn't worry. Not that I would STOP you from building up the thickness where you plan on drilling...just don't think it's neccessary. GPR that does a trade in for drilled hubs...does them flat as well...he does a higher volume than I do.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) |
bondo |
Jan 19 2005, 04:14 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
These are definitely early hubs. They have raised bosses for the 5 lug pattern. The issue is the raised bosses for the 4 lug pattern are raised more. I need to use one of the 4 lug bosses for the 5 lug pattern. I guess the 4 lug pattern needed more thickness because it was threaded. Does anyone have a pic of the backside of a factory 914/6 hub? It would be interesting to see how the factory handled it, since they supposedly used the same casting for both and just made the holes in different spots. |
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Root_Werks |
Jan 19 2005, 04:21 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,341 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
The reason the raised area for the 4lug spot is great then for the 5 lug spot is because the 4 lugs are threaded and the 5 lugs are push thru studs. But I always thought they were the same height? Man, it has been a while since I have seen an early hub! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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Joe Bob |
Jan 19 2005, 04:25 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
OK..if you have five raised spots....mill them even, drill your holes and pull the studs thru. Use longer than stock ones if you have a choice. It allows the use of spacers if you have flares or want to set the wheels out more for a wider stance.
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bondo |
Jan 19 2005, 04:26 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif)
I'll post pics tonight (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
sixnotfour |
Jan 19 2005, 06:29 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,441 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
911/914-6 same hub coasre spline . 914-4 early extra bosses fine spline
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bondo |
Jan 19 2005, 07:30 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
Ok, here's the pics. I think they show pretty well what I'm talking about.
I find it interesting that a 914/6 used a different hub. Does that mean that the 5 lug pattern of bosses was never used by the factory? Pic 1: Attached image(s) |
bondo |
Jan 19 2005, 07:31 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
Pic 2: (last one)
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Eric_Shea |
Jan 20 2005, 08:35 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,279 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
yup... 5-lug was never used. They used the early 911 hub and a special 914-6 stub axle.
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