exhaust studs, broken exhaust stud |
|
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG.
This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way. Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners. |
|
exhaust studs, broken exhaust stud |
rickllyell53 |
Jan 30 2005, 03:12 PM
Post
#1
|
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Fountain Valley, Ca Member No.: 3,396 |
Hi everyone,
I have a 1973 2.0 that has an exhaust leak. I removed the shroud under the exhaust and could feel the leak somewhere around where the exhaust pipe seats against the cylinder head. The locking nuts used to attach the exhaust pipes were tight and seated so I thought the problem might be the copper gaskets. While trying to remove the exhaust to inspect, I broke one of the exhaust studs. The locking nut was a thread or so from the end of the stud and the stud broke off leaving a couple threads protruding from the nut. In other words the stud broke near the end of the stud. To get the stud out, I tried double nutting, but, there wasn't adequate threads to install two nuts. So the $6 question, has anyone had this problem and how did you remove the stud? Also does the factory put lock-tite on these studs? Thanks in advance for the help. Rick |
Trekkor |
Jan 30 2005, 03:24 PM
Post
#2
|
I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
You might try a metric jam nut. They're thinner. For double nutting.
If it was me, I'd first shoot some penetrating oil in there. I'd get a big Vice Grip and try to work it out. If that didn't work, I'd put a nut on the stud and weld it on. try to put the wrench back on. If it broke off flush with the head I'd drill it out and Heli-Coil it. That's what I'd try. Me... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) KT |
nebreitling |
Jan 30 2005, 03:49 PM
Post
#3
|
Member Emeritus Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-March 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 478 |
that sucks. i hate pulling the exhaust for just this reason -- i will ALWAYS go out of my way to avoid it. no matter what, i always seem to F-up one stud....
since it broke off very close to the head, double nutting will be impossible. not nearly enough room to weld. so, you are stuck drilling. this isn't so bad, just be sure to go slow and straight in order not to mangle the head. i'd go with one fine hole about 1.5cm in, followed by a reverse-thread bit. this might be able to grab it at some point and pull it out -- hopefully thus preserving the threads. if you mangle the threads, you can always tap for an oversized stud (i did this) or use a helicoil/timsert (i wish i'd have done this). good luck, be sure to wear saftey glasses (ask me how i know) n |
IronHillRestorations |
Jan 30 2005, 04:07 PM
Post
#4
|
||
I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,768 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) Welding a nut on the stud will also warm things up a bit, which will also help removal. Be sure to use a anti-seize compound on the threads of the new stud so next time..... |
||
spare time toys |
Jan 30 2005, 04:39 PM
Post
#5
|
hooked on grilling food. Group: Members Posts: 4,059 Joined: 3-April 04 From: West Plano Tx Member No.: 1,884 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Well I had to pull the heads because of this when the EZ out broke off in the stud..TWICE.. but.... Now I have one head off and one on with a alen wrench broke off in the capscrew and....... I would just sell the car if I was you (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
|
jwalters |
Jan 30 2005, 07:34 PM
Post
#6
|
||
Sooo Close....... Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 14-May 04 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 2,068 Region Association: Europe |
easy there fella--your woes pale in comparison to others out there ( me included ) it'll work out in the long run! |
||
rickllyell53 |
Jan 31 2005, 07:50 PM
Post
#7
|
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Fountain Valley, Ca Member No.: 3,396 |
Thanks for the really great ideas and information. Larry D I especially like your style. I won't be able to get to this for a couple weeks, but, will let you know how I do.
Thanks again, at least for the hope! Rick |
DJsRepS |
Feb 4 2005, 06:46 AM
Post
#8
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 431 Joined: 4-November 04 From: Sarasota Florida Member No.: 3,060 |
Any good muffler shop can get a nut welded on there. Ive seen it done on my work truck at 270k miles. Chevy of corse. It was 1/8 in out of the manifold. The bigger nut laid around it and he mig welded it from the inside threads. The heat helps too. Have it towed there work done and back as cheap as $80. Good Luck I would drill as a last resort.
|
Kerrys914 |
Feb 4 2005, 07:00 AM
Post
#9
|
Dear, the parts I just sold paid for that part ;) Group: Members Posts: 1,568 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Williamsburg, VA Member No.: 16 |
Just do what I did..........Decide it was time for a top end rebuild and have them sent off to a shop. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)
|
Nemo914 |
Feb 4 2005, 08:16 PM
Post
#10
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 11-July 03 From: Cape Cod, MA Member No.: 902 |
Had the exact thing happen. I removed the heat exchangers to give myself some room, and just used a stud remover set from Sears. They were the type that simply hammer onto the stud and then grab hold as you turn. The stud came right out and it was easy to replace.
Just another idea. Good luck. NEMO |
Mark Henry |
Feb 4 2005, 08:31 PM
Post
#11
|
that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
In the future always find a buddy with a torch and heat those nuts cherry red. They never break when heated.
Welding a nut on a T4 exhaust stud has never worked for me. |
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 31st October 2024 - 08:25 PM |
All rights reserved 914World.com © since 2002 |
914World.com is the fastest growing online 914 community! We have it all, classifieds, events, forums, vendors, parts, autocross, racing, technical articles, events calendar, newsletter, restoration, gallery, archives, history and more for your Porsche 914 ... |