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> Side Windows Inter-changeable ?, ..early vs late
Literati914
post Jun 2 2018, 01:03 PM
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Are the side windows inter-change between the early and late cars? Are there differences? Should I expect to just switch out the glass itself or the whole scissor mechanism.. looking for easiest obviously. Any advice, before tackleing the job ? Thanks.
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post Jun 2 2018, 01:05 PM
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Nope. Totally different. Nothing can be interchanged.
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post Jun 2 2018, 01:06 PM
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no totally different would have to cut a piece out of the late door shell and weld it in then use late window regulator front and rear guides and of course the window itself

No one wants to install the early mechanism into a late door but it just takes all of the above but instead of welding a piece, need to elongate some holes


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Are the side windows inter-change between the early and late cars? Are there differences? Should I expect to just switch out the glass itself or the whole scissor mechanism.. looking for easiest obviously. Any advice, before tackleing the job ? Thanks.
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post Jun 2 2018, 01:30 PM
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Sorry I wasn't specific - I'm talking '72 and '74... does the above still apply?
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post Jun 2 2018, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(Dougster @ Jun 2 2018, 12:30 PM) *

Sorry I wasn't specific - I'm talking '72 and '74... does the above still apply?


Yes, different glass, different regulator, different window guides, different window seals, different door structure, etc....

The change was late 72 production year which is early 73 MY cars.

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post Jun 2 2018, 03:26 PM
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Is there a thread on doing this conversion (from early glass to late/regulator change?) This is on my list of projects that I would like to do.
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post Jun 2 2018, 04:17 PM
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Is there a thread on doing this conversion (from early glass to late/regulator change?) This is on my list of projects that I would like to do.

Digging into hell thread.
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post Jun 2 2018, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(Dougster @ Jun 2 2018, 03:30 PM) *

Sorry I wasn't specific - I'm talking '72 and '74... does the above still apply?

Yes. I lot of guys just buy later doors. Not a perfect solution because of the targa top but acceptable for many.
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post Jun 2 2018, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Jun 2 2018, 05:19 PM) *

QUOTE(Dougster @ Jun 2 2018, 03:30 PM) *

Sorry I wasn't specific - I'm talking '72 and '74... does the above still apply?

Yes. I lot of guys just buy later doors. Not a perfect solution because of the targa top but acceptable for many.


I could just use the entire door/glass from the '74 parts car on my '72 keeper... but, umm... what's different about the targas?
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post Jun 2 2018, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(Dougster @ Jun 2 2018, 03:38 PM) *
QUOTE(mepstein @ Jun 2 2018, 05:19 PM) *
QUOTE(Dougster @ Jun 2 2018, 03:30 PM) *
Sorry I wasn't specific - I'm talking '72 and '74... does the above still apply?
Yes. I lot of guys just buy later doors. Not a perfect solution because of the targa top but acceptable for many.

I could just use the entire door/glass from the '74 parts car on my '72 keeper... but, umm... what's different about the targas?

The same time the doors changed the targa tops and their side seals changed as well. A late top won't seal right on an early car and vice versa.
So, if you go with late doors on an early car, you should also get a late top and the correct seals.

There's a lengthy thread here showing all the differences between early vs late tops ...
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post Jun 2 2018, 09:21 PM
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Sounding like I'd be better off just finding a replacement '72 passenger window. Sounds too like finding one from a 70 and 71's would be better in keeping me from accidentally getting an early '73 window - correct? Are there any tell-tell characteristics when looking at pictures between the early and late windows?
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post Jun 2 2018, 09:26 PM
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Yes 70-72 all will work
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post Jun 3 2018, 06:13 AM
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QUOTE(Dougster @ Jun 2 2018, 11:21 PM) *

Sounding like I'd be better off just finding a replacement '72 passenger window. Sounds too like finding one from a 70 and 71's would be better in keeping me from accidentally getting an early '73 window - correct? Are there any tell-tell characteristics when looking at pictures between the early and late windows?

Yes. The brackets on an early window look very different than a late window. It’s very easy to tell the difference.

When the early mechanism is lubed up, it works fine. Mikey has the small plastic buttons if yours are worn out.
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post Jun 3 2018, 06:44 AM
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Not sure if this helps. I installed early doors on my 74, but kept the late glass and mechanicals. Had to add aluminum plate to support slide and redill holes around window crank. Worked out well. Best, MarkAttached Image
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post Jun 3 2018, 07:38 AM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Jun 3 2018, 08:13 AM) *

Mikey has the small plastic buttons if yours are worn out.

Does he? I can't find them on the site and I've been bugging him for a while to make these. Those are important to getting correct window height and a good seal.
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post Jun 3 2018, 08:34 AM
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Unfortunately Ive been making parts faster than Blake can get them listed. Ill have in get these up Monday and post a link.

Got these and a few other items. Probably about time for another grpup buy.
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Ill have in get these up Monday and post a link.

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I have late style doors with early regulators installed on my six. I wanted crash bars in the door but early windows to fit the top. Just need to drill a couple of holes. (Just in case anyone is researching in the future) *apologize for (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) photo

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post Jun 3 2018, 09:25 AM
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We've installed crash bars in early 911 doors. The metal bar is available for sale. I think we used high strength adhesive.
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post Jun 3 2018, 09:52 AM
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altitude, funny, I got the early doors to rid of the weight of the crash bars. Mark
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