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It Got Ugly, At AX this morning |
J P Stein |
Oct 9 2005, 05:09 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
....besides the 914s there. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
An Evo driver with a lot more car than talent managed to get into the wall (Jersey Barrier)backwards. No big deal except a course worker was in his path. Fortunately, the guy didn't get smushed between barrier & car....I didn't see the choas, just the immediate aftermath. The car was still moving along the barrier as I got eyeballs on it. Apparently the worker tried to bail over the wall & got clipped....seriously clipped. His lights were out & one foot was over the wall... still attached but just kinda sticking up in the air. The medics said it looked worse than it was......tell it to the guy that got hit. He's in the hospital.....not that he'll remember most of today. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) Be careful out there kiddies. |
Aaron Cox |
Oct 9 2005, 05:12 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
i hid behind a 4' diameter concrete light post boss last time i conerworked
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J P Stein |
Oct 9 2005, 05:16 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
A man has got to have a plan (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) |
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brant |
Oct 9 2005, 05:33 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,739 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
scarrrrrryyy..
everyone be safe brant |
Allan |
Oct 9 2005, 05:50 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
Jeez, and here I am volunteering at Buttonwillow...
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Bruce Allert |
Oct 9 2005, 07:35 PM
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Hellions asleep Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
and you wonder why we're told "do not sit down while working out there & PAY ATTENTION"!
Hope he's OK (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif) ......b |
Air_Cooled_Nut |
Oct 9 2005, 07:44 PM
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914 Ronin - 914 owner who lost his 914club.com Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Beaverton, Oregon Member No.: 584 Region Association: None |
I was in the Spotter postion and saw it happen. The Evo hit the barrier hard enough to deploy the front air bags and push two of the concrete barriers back about an inch -- it was a noticable gap. The car spun 180ยบ and its right rear fender was up on the barrier, rear end completely off the ground. The car looked like a total to me or else a very expensive repair. The driver was shaken but okay otherwise. The worker basically landed upside-down, resting on his head and shoulder and the rest of his body vertically on the barrier. He was driving an RX-8 and making respectable times.
But on a happier note, I got to ride passenger in Trevor's 914/6 and J.P.'s !! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Damn, talk about a fun ride! It was like riding on a horizontal roller coaster (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) Frickin' blast and a great end to the season -- I'm soooo glad I did it. |
nebreitling |
Oct 9 2005, 07:59 PM
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Member Emeritus Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-March 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 478 |
that is awful. glad to hear that it wasn't any more serious.
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john rogers |
Oct 9 2005, 08:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,525 Joined: 4-March 03 From: Chula Vista CA Member No.: 391 |
Many people think parking lot or stadium events are completely safe? Since I've been with the Porsche club in San Diego, at the "Q" I have seen a Boxster get destroyed backing into a tree, a 914 hit a hot coals concrete container, a 914 hit the armco spinning in someone elses oil, a 928 hit a trolley overpass support (that coulda been really expensive), a turbo get the front end compressed and a very fast 914 nearly take out a full row of cars when the brake line off the master cylinder ruptured. Personally I feel much safer on a track such as Willow Springs or CA Speedway, guess I'm getting old?!
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GaroldShaffer |
Oct 9 2005, 09:21 PM
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You bought another 914? Group: Benefactors Posts: 7,627 Joined: 27-June 03 From: Portage, IN Member No.: 865 Region Association: None |
Hope the worker will be ok.
Was this a PCA or SCCA event? As a Solo safety steward for my SCCA region I am wondering about the course setup. I am always concerned that there is enough run off room at a end of solom before a turn, min of 75 feet from edge of course to where any spectators would be, and that there is plenty of OPEN runoff area AFTER the timing lights. I have seen a few cars go through the lights and hit the brakes hard only to spin (wiggle) because they couldn't stop before they would be in area with other cars. You can bet that 99% of our events you will have a jog somewhere before the end lights to slow you down before you get to the finish. |
J P Stein |
Oct 9 2005, 10:40 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
This was an SCCA event.
They had their 50 foot minimum margin to obstructions. Workers are not considered spectators and gotta be on their toes. The guy left 60+ feet of skid marks to get where he was going. He lost it in an area where he should have been going pretty much straight & about 50ish MPH....something may have broke...it wasn't a 30 year old Porsche after all but a new Messabitchi (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
Rough_Rider |
Oct 10 2005, 09:16 AM
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Smurf Zone Group: Members Posts: 525 Joined: 16-August 04 From: Beaverton, OR Member No.: 2,547 |
Wasn't originally going to post about this topic, a handfull of the 914 P-Car community was there i'm really glad no-one we know was injured. Although that in no way diminishes my feelings towards the driver & the course workers.
3 people at that particular station had the crap scared outta them. What do you do when a car is spinning towards you! Seriously think about it. There is zero time to 2nd guess. React or be hurt. Aaron your bang on the money, find a large immovable object to be behind. Else have an escape route planned, always watch whats coming towards you & stay on your toes. Good to meet you Toby, anytime you wanna drive or passenger just shout. Thanks JP for the conversation & passenger ride. Be safe out there. |
ConeDodger |
Oct 10 2005, 10:15 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,759 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
In 20 plus years of autocrossing this is only the second time I have heard of an injury. I believe about 5-6 years ago there was a cone worker tossed in the air at the 'Stick in SF. I believe it was an RX7 that hit him. I think his injuries might have been serious.
Hopefully, the guy is going to be alright. Sorry to hear it happened... Rob |
Dead Air |
Oct 10 2005, 10:21 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,268 Joined: 9-May 04 From: Buffalo, NY Member No.: 2,042 |
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Do I sense something against Mazda's here? A boiling undercurrent? Some resentment comming out because of the MX-5's. |
mskala |
Oct 10 2005, 11:22 AM
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R Group: Members Posts: 1,925 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 79 Region Association: None |
What's with the Evo's? At Devens earlier this year an Evo flipped
(not hitting anything, just tank-slapper). That's the only problem I've heard of around here in 6 years. I wasn't there, it was at an SCCA event a day before one of ours. |
Rough_Rider |
Oct 10 2005, 11:41 AM
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Smurf Zone Group: Members Posts: 525 Joined: 16-August 04 From: Beaverton, OR Member No.: 2,547 |
Hey Toby, pic's of your passanger ride. This was the only clean run i had through the slalom's. Maybe i need the extra ballast :-)
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Rough_Rider |
Oct 10 2005, 11:42 AM
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Smurf Zone Group: Members Posts: 525 Joined: 16-August 04 From: Beaverton, OR Member No.: 2,547 |
As opposed to the other runs..... well at least the camera man caught the cone in flight
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Aaron Cox |
Oct 10 2005, 12:13 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
any cracks in your fibreglass?
looks like it flexes a bunch (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif) |
Mueller |
Oct 10 2005, 12:22 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
forget you medication this morning?? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) in what post does someone say anything negative about Mazdas?? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) |
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Joe Ricard |
Oct 10 2005, 12:38 PM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
Those are some nice moves on them cones. Looks very straight line kinda thing going on. ie. fastest way through slalom is to make it as straight as possible. keeping nose pointed forward. I have such problems with that sometimes.
Then the last pic was just a little too straight. Oh and I hope the guy is OK and will be able to work concessions next event. or timing & scoring. |
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