OT: ALS research, hope for Korijo!? |
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OT: ALS research, hope for Korijo!? |
tat2dphreak |
Aug 28 2003, 11:36 AM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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Bruce Allert |
Aug 28 2003, 11:55 AM
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Hellions asleep Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Wow! We sure need a miracle.
Good find Buddy. Hope they are on the right track (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) bruce |
rhodyguy |
Aug 28 2003, 12:05 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,188 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
with haste. mutant genes!! jesus.
kevin |
seanery |
Aug 28 2003, 03:16 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
my fingers are crossed.
Is there anything we as a club can do to help? |
tat2dphreak |
Aug 28 2003, 04:38 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I think right now it's more up to the FDA than any one else... my fiancee is in the clical research field, (she's the one who sent me the link, I had told her about Korijo a while back)
unfortunately the FDA is known to drag their feet on some new research items, like the article said, it may be 2+ years before the first patients are allowed to even try it... it's still in very early stages, but maybe when the research begins we can try and get Dave on the list of people trying it... we can only hope as of yet! keep our fingers crossed, and pray, but at least it gives some hope. |
Pnambic |
Aug 28 2003, 05:05 PM
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Honk if you like obscene gestures! Group: Members Posts: 914 Joined: 9-April 03 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 546 Region Association: South East States |
Washington state is pretty darn close to Canada though, and they tend to embrace new treatments before the FDA does. If the FDA drags its feet too long, perhaps he could go on a little vacation to Canada.
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scotty |
Aug 28 2003, 06:14 PM
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The Fun Never Stops Group: Members Posts: 773 Joined: 20-May 03 From: Portland. Oregon (SW) Member No.: 718 Region Association: None |
2010...2020 at the latest
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Elliot_Cannon |
Aug 29 2003, 01:29 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,922 Joined: 26-March 03 From: Orange County Ca Member No.: 480 Region Association: None |
Hi,
They think my brother-in-law has ALS. Thanks for the aricle. I'll print it up for my wife. Cheers, Elliot |
tryan |
Aug 29 2003, 01:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 22-January 03 From: smokey mountains gatlinburg tn Member No.: 184 |
i have a scientific american up in the truck. this months issue was on the brain and brain disorders( als/parkinsons). amgen is close to neuron repair, but the company was having money problems.
the fda sucks big donkey weiners. a pill for diabetics was denied because TWO out of a thousand in the study died from liver damage. the martha f'in stuart fiasco drug inhibited capillary growth in rapid growing tumors. denied. more focus was on the insider trading thing. most of the cures rely on stem cell research, which has been cut from direct federal funding. i'll see if i can get a scan tonight and post. rant on. my wife is going through a hep c battle right now. zee germans and the japanese have a much better cure/treatment, but the american drug companies do not want to cure anything. they want you to take a pill everyday so they can make money. rant off. |
fiid |
Aug 29 2003, 02:28 PM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
I think the problem extends beyond the FDA. Basically I think the the entire notion of private healthcare is somewhat flawed, since the free market economy is based on certain assumptions about the ability of the market to price goods and services.
Since the value of any living being's own life is always infinate (with the exception of someone in a suicidal state) how do you put a fair price on it? Another interesting fact is that the US healthcare system wastes enough money each year to provide coverage for all the uninsured in the country. We need to start harassing congress to start actually solving these problems and not pandering to the industry. The research is really cool though, and seems like it may provide some answers to other diseases than ALS. I think that protein research is going to hold a lot of answers for mankind - it seems like more and more of the real nasties (like CJD, the human variant of mad cow disease) come down to wierd proteins. Fiid. |
tat2dphreak |
Aug 29 2003, 02:41 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
exactly... I think the last time anyone cured anything... it was polio!!! and the people aftwerwards were like "tsk tsk tsk... you could have made millions by just stopping the symptoms so everyone can take 3 pills a day at 500 a month, oh, even better... let's go in with the insurance companies so they won't even cover new drugs for 10 years!"
what a freakin' scam! |
Dave Cawdrey |
Aug 29 2003, 05:04 PM
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Dumbo going poop, Daddy :) Group: Members Posts: 818 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Seattle, WA USA Member No.: 182 |
I actually had to stop my one, FDA approved pill due to loss of insurance. My disability income is too much to qualify for Medicade. And the monthly cost for that 1 pill is $900.
Go figure... BTW my broken nose still effin hurts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
tryan |
Aug 29 2003, 05:39 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 22-January 03 From: smokey mountains gatlinburg tn Member No.: 184 |
dave, nice update on the panel beating page, but you've got no brakes man. after you get the red ryder water box, we need to start a dip the tub fund. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Dave Cawdrey |
Aug 29 2003, 06:18 PM
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Dumbo going poop, Daddy :) Group: Members Posts: 818 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Seattle, WA USA Member No.: 182 |
Thanks.
I can do that web design shit all loopy from the Vicodin, but cant do too much reading or typing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I'm off the stuff today. Gots my udder stuff (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) QUOTE we need to start a dip the tub fund. In my moment of relapse, I saw that topic. I REALLY wanna do that to the tub. In fact, I'll stop buyin' and start sellin' more to help pay fer it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) . Geoff, any in our area ? |
tryan |
Aug 29 2003, 06:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 22-January 03 From: smokey mountains gatlinburg tn Member No.: 184 |
the tub reborn thread gave me a woodro wilson. dads landcruiser could use a dip, but i don't think anything would come back up out of the vat. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)
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rick 918-S |
Aug 30 2003, 07:58 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,676 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
How many of you went to high school in the 70's. No computers, no calculators, etc. Tecnology in the computer world is still moving faster that hell. The medical research industry is filled with good intensioned working class people. Most of them have a true purpose and devotion. I think the problem is the top of that food chain. Money and saleries seem to cause blurred vision. Something seems to happen as people move through life and time. The idealist in all of us starts to dim. We need a uphoria pill for those medaling old farts. Then maybe we could cure some of these things.
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