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| Tobra |
 Mar 22 2006, 11:46 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 1,453 Joined: 22-August 05 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 4,634  |
Two different clubs, can anyone share any experiences, advantages or disadvantages to one or the the other. Which has better DE courses and track days, that sort of thing
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| DanT |
Mar 22 2006, 11:56 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
POC tends to stay in Socal more. the offer a little of everything but focus more on door handle to door handle racing.
PCA in Norcal....Zone 7. AXs, almost one per weekend somewhere in the zone. DEs...check the Zone website. Probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 days available this year with various regions. TTs by GGR 5 per year. Depends on what you are looking for. There is plenty available to you in PCA Zone 7 and stay in norcal (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) I have run with POC in the past...nice folks good events, they just don't come north to run very often. |
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| Scott Carlberg |
Mar 23 2006, 12:35 AM
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Porsche MOTORSPORTS Group: Members Posts: 1,595 Joined: 17-April 03 From: Modesto, Ca Member No.: 580 |
POC website
Golden Gate Region of the PCA As Dan said, the POC is ALL about Track Events, they really don't have "social-only" events. |
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| SandyI |
Mar 23 2006, 12:50 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 51 Joined: 27-December 05 From: Topanga Canyon, California Member No.: 5,322 |
The POC is a very race-oriented club. Our DE events put you on the Streets of Willow track in the Short Track Series. And a few years later, you can find yourself at the Sebring 12-hour as some club members ran this year. There are a couple social-only events thrown each year, but no, the club definitely isn't about wash, wax, park and chat get togethers. There are no concours events with white gloves. These are men and women with very heavy right feet that like to go fast on the track. The Time Trial and Cup Race divisions race all over California and in Las Vegas once a year. It's a helluva good time. Check us out some time.
Those of us in the Short Track series have our priorities -- the beer's always cold after the fifth run session. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif) |
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| Tobra |
Mar 23 2006, 09:59 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,453 Joined: 22-August 05 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 4,634 |
Good info and links. I don't really want to cut my car up and put a cage in there, and obviously it needs some going through before taking it out on a track. I was sort of leaning toward PCA before, sounds like it might be better for me locationwise. I like the associate member thing too. Thanks guys
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| Howard |
Mar 23 2006, 10:47 AM
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Incontin(g)ent Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,785 Joined: 24-July 03 From: Westlake Village, CA Member No.: 943 Region Association: None 
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Each PCA chapter tends to be different. The local one here is mostly social, I think they do one A/X per year.
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| drewvw |
Mar 23 2006, 10:51 AM
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new england car guy Group: Members Posts: 1,631 Joined: 24-February 06 From: Boston, MA Member No.: 5,630 Region Association: North East States |
anyone in the NE have PCA expierience? There is a meet and greet in Boston on April 9th. A couple of my buddies and I were wondering what the scene is like out here... |
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| anthony |
Mar 23 2006, 11:08 AM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
Why is it an either/or decision? IMO, for $40 a year the PCA membership is chump change. You can't beat the GGR 2-day autocross school. You get the equivalent of a $1000 driving school for $100 plus your $40/year membership.
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| Allan |
Mar 23 2006, 11:33 AM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
Is the POC worldwide?
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| Howard |
Mar 23 2006, 11:39 AM
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Incontin(g)ent Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,785 Joined: 24-July 03 From: Westlake Village, CA Member No.: 943 Region Association: None
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Only if you consider SoCal the whole world (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) |
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| Allan |
Mar 23 2006, 11:42 AM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
So no Porsche clubs in Europe?
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| Mueller |
Mar 23 2006, 12:02 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None 
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what would make you think that??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif) from what I understand, PCA was 1st...a bunch of racers down in SoCal got bent about how PCA club racing was run and decided to form POC and yes, there are Porsche Clubs in other countries...they are just not named PCA or POC |
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| Mueller |
Mar 23 2006, 12:05 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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proof of Porsche clubs in Europe (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-2-1137204984.jpg) I took that picture a few years ago when Sherryl and I went to France (and Germany and England) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/MDB2.gif) |
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| Mike D. |
Mar 23 2006, 12:18 PM
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OK, It runs now, and pretty good too! Group: Members Posts: 1,446 Joined: 3-January 03 From: Santa Clarita, Ca Member No.: 85 Region Association: None
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| Allan |
Mar 23 2006, 12:56 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
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| Scott Carlberg |
Mar 23 2006, 12:57 PM
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Porsche MOTORSPORTS Group: Members Posts: 1,595 Joined: 17-April 03 From: Modesto, Ca Member No.: 580 |
Make sure to check them BOTH out! I thought the POC came up to Thunderhill every year, but I don't see a date for THill on their 2006 schedule. Check them out when they come "up north" though. August 25-27: Laguna Seca Raceway - "Make A Wish" Charity Event - Time Trial #5 - Cup Races #10 & 11 October 28-29: Infineon Raceway with PRC - Cup Race #14 |
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| SoCal Driver |
Mar 23 2006, 01:18 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 45 Joined: 8-February 06 From: Oxnard, ca Member No.: 5,549 Region Association: None |
PCA here is very social SBR, Santa Barbara Region. We have 2 monthly breakfast GTG and other functions thruout the month. SFR, San Fernando Valley region I'm not to sure about, what Howard would probably be a member of. But both are Zone 8. I'm 26, and my father joined SBR ~87-95 and then became active again ~98 to present and i've always been there at events with him since i was about 9. We did distro for news letters to the SBR from the early 90s to just a year and a half or so ago. Got to see the region grow from 250+ members in the early 90s to well over 600, almost 700 when we stopped. From my understanding its grown even more since then.
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Mar 23 2006, 02:42 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Well, it is ...................... The Cap'n |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Mar 23 2006, 02:50 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
"Club racing"? PCA Club racing appeared in the last decade, POC appeared in the late 50s-early 60s. True, they went off in their own direction, but there were a TON of dual members, and everyone ran events put on by both clubs. PCA SBR was originally gonna be a POC group, but got sidetracked, as I recall. In the early-mid 60s, you could run 4 autocrosses nearly every weekend in the LA area, and there were time trials every month. We ran Willow, Riverside, the LAPD training center, Ontario Motor Speedway, and the old bomber base at Holtville, as well as parking lots all over the place. The Cap'n |
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| pek771 |
Mar 23 2006, 08:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 275 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Conover, NC Member No.: 5,175 Region Association: None
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No POC in the East. PCA DE's are the cheapest events, fee wise. NASA and M-Club are expensive as hell.
NASA won't even return my emails. I am truly invisible. They cashed my membership check, however. PAt |
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