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How do you remove front fenders, without destroying them? |
kafermeister |
Oct 3 2003, 10:23 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 778 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Cincinnati/Northern KY Member No.: 174 |
I'm looking for pictures from someone who has completed the process. For the spot welds, I was going to drill them out.
How are the front fenders attached at the cowl area? Are they fastened at all at the front of the door post? Rick |
URY914 |
Oct 3 2003, 10:56 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,477 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Front fenders are welded at the cowl and at the door posts. I have pictures at home that I can post.
Where the fender and the cowl meet is a seam that has the gasket in it. It runs from the corner of the hood/fender/cowl to the w/s post. That seam is welded (or rusted) together. Cutting the fenders off is not easy but can be done. Paul |
Slowpoke |
Oct 3 2003, 11:03 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 116 Joined: 1-June 03 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 768 |
I'm not sure what you are asking. Do you want to remove good fenders from one car and install them on another? Do you want to remove good fenders and install them on the same car?
I can cut one off with and air chisel in about 1 hour, but either the fender or the car is damanged in the process. I'm quite sure you won't be able to remove all the spot welds with a spot weld saw, and some parts of the fender to body welds appear to be mig welded. They are spot welded and mig welded at the cowl area. They are also spot welded at the door pillar post. accessed from the wheel well area. But, it seems to me most of the fender is being held on with the tons of seam sealer they crammed in everywhere. I find it easier to air chisel the fender off and then remove the seam sealer and drill out the spots welds if I'm trying to save the fender. If I'm trying to save the car I cut the fender to bits and then drill out the spot welds and grind the mig areas.. Peter |
URY914 |
Oct 3 2003, 11:09 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,477 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Peter is right,
You will be destroying one or the other. You can't get to all the spot welds to drill them out and in some areas it is a continous seam weld. Tell us some more and we'll try to help out. Paul |
kafermeister |
Oct 3 2003, 12:15 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 778 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Cincinnati/Northern KY Member No.: 174 |
QUOTE(Slowpoke @ Oct 3 2003, 01:03 PM) Do you want to remove good fenders from one car and install them on another? Indeed, that is exactly what I desire to accomplish. I want to remove from one car and put onto another. I have a car without any quarters at all and need to remove 4 fenders from my parts car (old project actually) without re-inventing the wheel. The rest of your post cleared up what I was looking for. Thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Rick |
kafermeister |
Oct 3 2003, 12:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 778 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Cincinnati/Northern KY Member No.: 174 |
QUOTE(URY914 @ Oct 3 2003, 12:56 PM) Front fenders are welded at the cowl and at the door posts. I have pictures at home that I can post. Pictures would help. I'm having a tough time picturing the cowl attachment in my head. Thanks Paul. Rick |
URY914 |
Oct 3 2003, 09:19 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,477 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Here is a shot of the cowl rust area.
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URY914 |
Oct 3 2003, 09:20 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,477 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Sorry so big. I think that is about life size.
Paul |
ThinAir |
Oct 6 2003, 08:44 PM
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Best friends Group: Members Posts: 2,553 Joined: 4-February 03 From: Flagstaff, AZ Member No.: 231 Region Association: Southwest Region |
So if you drill out the welds and then use a sawsall to just cut right through the weld in the seam, do you end up with a useable fender and cowl? From the picture it looks like one laps over the other before welding. If you just cut right down the middle of the seam, how do you put things back together?
I'm wondering because my project car may require removing the fenders and I want to do it in a way that will leave the car ready for a donor or new fender. |
kafermeister |
Oct 6 2003, 08:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 778 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Cincinnati/Northern KY Member No.: 174 |
QUOTE(URY914 @ Oct 3 2003, 11:20 PM) Sorry so big. I think that is about life size. Paul Excellent! That does help. No problem on the size. Bigger is better.. Right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I now see how the fender attaches to the door hinge pillar. I can even see part of the old fender in the front hood opening. I still can't pick out where it actually is welded to the cowl. Am I missing it or is it just rusted over? |
Joe Bob |
Oct 6 2003, 09:00 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Cut long....meaning cut the fenders off and get them off the donor car with as much extra material that you can.....once they are off, they can be trimmed....
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