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Rear Reflector and Trunk Release |
STL914 |
Jan 16 2004, 11:45 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,183 Joined: 22-October 03 From: O'Fallon, MO Member No.: 1,271 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I'm considering installing a rear PORSCHE reflector on my '72 and need some advice/opinions on what type of trunk release to use. I know that most use the electric soleniod but I have also read of people using some type of cable set up. Can someone tell me more on the cable method with some photos?
Thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge6.gif) |
campbellcj |
Jan 16 2004, 11:50 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,597 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
The solenoids are pretty reliable but I think it is a good idea to have a manual release of some kind anyway. One "easy" option is to just drill a small hole in the reflector where you can push the latch with a coat-hanger or similar implement. The hole is barely visible from a few feet away.
Even if the solenoid is fine, you have to have everything aligned and adjusted exactly right or the latch can "jam" shut. OK that's my $.02 |
Brad Roberts |
Jan 16 2004, 11:54 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Hi Gary,
I need to dig up the pics to show you.. but installing one of those (the new ones are crap BTW) requires you to drill/cut massive holes into the rear sheet metal of the trunk. It is nasty. Once you cut it.. there is no turning back without having a body shop on stand by. B |
SirAndy |
Jan 16 2004, 11:59 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,954 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
yupp, what they ^^^^ said.
i have a "solenoid" for sale, if you're interested. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) the new (aftermarket) reflectors suck. they're too dark. i have a (real) 911 reflector that was cut to fit the 914. looks WAY better. (and is for sale too) i have never seen a good working cable release, BUT you can add a emergency cable release by drilling a hole into your trunk floor and run it through there and add a small handle between the heat-shield and the rear valance. that way, if the solenoid fails, you have a back-up. Andy |
SirAndy |
Jan 17 2004, 12:00 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,954 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
not the best of pics (surprised?), but it'll give you an idea ...
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bernbomb914 |
Jan 17 2004, 12:02 AM
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one of the oldest Farts on this board Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,873 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 36 |
I have the selonid but I drilled a small hole under the trunk release and ran a cable and handle which I pull if the selonid fails. it hides behind the lic plate.
Bernie |
campbellcj |
Jan 17 2004, 01:29 AM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,597 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
I just took the reflector and "GT" tail off my car a while ago, and did a "poor-mans" repair job to patch it up back to stock. (I'm gonna get a composite lid and real spoiler later and keep this steel lid for anything where spoilers aren't allowed). B is right that if the thought of drilling a bunch of holes in the exterior of your car makes you queasy...skip it.
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John2kx |
Jan 17 2004, 06:45 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 502 Joined: 22-August 03 From: Augusta, Ga. Member No.: 1,066 |
I was up against the same question after installing my reflector. Bought a "brand new" 914 designed solenoid and mount but was not impressed with its operation while bench testing. The cable approach was investigated but I did not pursue it.
After giving more thought in how I use my car, I opted to install neither. Since my rear trunk is only used to store top and the car is rarely left unattended, theft control is not a issue. The trunk is heavy enough to stay put without use of the rear catch. John |
Van914 |
Jan 17 2004, 07:25 AM
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Van914 Group: Members Posts: 702 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Cincinnati, Ohio Member No.: 90 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
My car came with the rear reflector when I bought it 16 years ago. It has a cable release that goes to the interior right above the engine cover release. It failed once at the track and I had to break the reflector to get in the trunk. Now I have a back up cable that goes through the trunk floor just in case.
Van |
STL914 |
Jan 17 2004, 10:02 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,183 Joined: 22-October 03 From: O'Fallon, MO Member No.: 1,271 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Thanks for the replies guys. I bought a cut done 911 reflector with the small drilled hole thru the S on eBay and expect it soon.
Chris, based on your post, do I assume that the push button lock remains as is and this is pushed by the coat hanger thru the small drilled hole to release the latch? Brad, I realize the need to drill the holes in the back panel. Do you recall what size holes are required? The 72 is pretty prestine for this area of the country, so I may have some concerns about mutilating it. Andy, thanks for the picture. Is your car Bahia Red? My 72 is and this gives me a good idea how it would look with the reflector installed. How much wouldyou need for the solenoid? I may be interested. |
Neal |
Jan 17 2004, 10:43 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 300 Joined: 23-April 03 From: Sammamish, Washington Member No.: 605 |
How is the solenoid wired I just got the system and it had a switch and a 2 wires that are attached to the solenoid, one is attached to the solenoid mount and the other is free. What to do ? I would upload a picture but it seems I can't
need to figure that out some day. Neal |
boxstr |
Jan 17 2004, 11:00 AM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Gary Good morning. I own 2 914s with rear reflectors. If you really have a pristine car(914) then I personally would not cut,drill,or add anything that was not factory. You can always do that to a project type car. Or one that comes your way(they always do) that you may feel needs to rear reflector.
Six holes I believe they are @12mm, haver to be drilled for the mounting studs. The electric solenoid is what is supplied, but it needs a backup, as others have stated, a cable is the best way to go. The one straight down and behind the rear lic. plate is easy and works great. CCLINREFLECTORHELL |
Air_Cooled_Nut |
Jan 17 2004, 11:51 AM
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914 Ronin - 914 owner who lost his 914club.com Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Beaverton, Oregon Member No.: 584 Region Association: None |
I installed a cable-released PORSCHE reflector in my first 914 (as described above, release handle is in cabin by engine lid release) and it worked great every time. When drilling for the mounting holes measure about 14 times, then drill once (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
I have all the parts and plan on installing it on my new 914 some day... |
Neal |
Jan 17 2004, 08:38 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 300 Joined: 23-April 03 From: Sammamish, Washington Member No.: 605 |
has anyone ever thought of putting lights behind the reflector and use it as a 3'rd brake light ?
I think it would be kind of cool and pretty safe at night, you really could not miss the car. |
Kargeek |
Jan 17 2004, 09:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 555 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 430 |
At one time I had the cut down 911 reflector on my car, it used four 12" holes to mount. Later, when I removed it, I had to gas hammer weld patches in; you won't find evidence on either side of the panel now. If I really wanted to do it again, I would consider grinding off the mounting tabs flush with the reflector. Go to the body shop supply and buy the heavy duty double sided tape that is used to reinstall emblems and stick and go. Might be better than cutting up the car and you will have the option of changing your mind. DH
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soloracer |
Jan 17 2004, 09:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 793 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Calgary Member No.: 538 |
Could a trunk latch like this be used with the reflector?
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Air_Cooled_Nut |
Jan 17 2004, 10:18 PM
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914 Ronin - 914 owner who lost his 914club.com Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Beaverton, Oregon Member No.: 584 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(soloracer @ Jan 17 2004, 07:52 PM) Could a trunk latch like this be used with the reflector? Nope. The reflector fills the whole space! |
Air_Cooled_Nut |
Jan 17 2004, 10:18 PM
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914 Ronin - 914 owner who lost his 914club.com Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Beaverton, Oregon Member No.: 584 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Kargeek @ Jan 17 2004, 07:05 PM) ...I would consider grinding off the mounting tabs flush with the reflector. Go to the body shop supply and buy the heavy duty double sided tape that is used to reinstall emblems and stick and go. Might be better than cutting up the car and you will have the option of changing your mind. DH Damn good idea! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) |
Kargeek |
Jan 17 2004, 11:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 555 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 430 |
I also used a thinner tape to fasten the VW-Porsche emblem too. 7odd holes to drill was just too much after filling reflector hones. Stick the tape to the backside of the emblem, exacto knife it's outline, peel and stick.
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Brad Roberts |
Jan 17 2004, 11:05 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
I have a customers car that kept the stock lock in place for opening the trunk. Whomever installed it left the middle two attachment points off the car. This allows the reflector to flex. Push on the center of the reflector and the trunk opens. SLICK. Thieves (besides us now) would never know to open the rear trunk this way so we are not worried about locking the trunk.
B |
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