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short sifter?, any one try this? |
oldschool |
Apr 30 2009, 12:49 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,372 Joined: 29-October 08 From: P-town Member No.: 9,705 Region Association: Southern California |
I was looking at one of my old mags(vw&porsche) read a article about making a short shifter
:it reads like this:( I have found a Cheap and easy way to drastically shorten the shift trow on my 1973 914.First cut the lower shifter extension (the mushroom shape piece) approximately in the middle of the shift. Weld a 1 1/2 inch long piece of steel rod of the same diameter between the two pieces,keeping the shaft straight.Then cut three 1 inch lengths of 1 inch diameter pipe.These are used to raise the base plate by using them as spacers.This requires longer mounting bolts.) has any one ever done this ? |
URY914 |
Apr 30 2009, 06:39 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,652 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
I don't think that will work. You would be lengthing the throw of the rod at the bottom.
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pktzygt |
Apr 30 2009, 07:06 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 328 Joined: 20-March 07 From: Chesapeake, VA Member No.: 7,611 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
It makes sense to me. If you moved the shift knob the same distance as before, it would result in a longer distance traveled by the lower part of the rod. Then raise to plate to allow the longer part to still fit in the tunnel.
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Wilhelm |
Apr 30 2009, 08:04 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 408 Joined: 7-September 07 From: Hooterville, OR Member No.: 8,088 Region Association: None |
Somewhere in my pile of crap while looking for shifter parts yesterday I found a shortshift kit for a 73-76 style shift tower. Weltmeister IRRC. Essentially a longer lower shaft as you describe. I'll try and post a pic.
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URY914 |
Apr 30 2009, 08:30 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,652 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
The Weltmeister kit uses the same principle but you can't get too long with the rod or the shift rod throw will be too long.
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SLITS |
Apr 30 2009, 08:58 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
SHIFTER
You sift flour, sugar and maybe dirt, but you select a gear with a shifter. Want one free? Come and get it. ***Wow, that was hostile. I've had way to much coffee this morning*** |
URY914 |
Apr 30 2009, 11:25 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,652 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Ron, down boy.
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jcambo7 |
Apr 30 2009, 12:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,691 Joined: 24-December 08 From: Graham, WA Member No.: 9,867 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
SHIFTER You sift flour, sugar and maybe dirt, but you select a gear with a shifter. Want one free? Come and get it. ***Wow, that was hostile. I've had way to much coffee this morning*** (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
bobhasissues |
Apr 30 2009, 12:10 PM
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seemingly endless issues with my 914 Group: Members Posts: 218 Joined: 13-February 07 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 7,532 Region Association: None |
I was looking at one of my old mags(vw&porsche) read a article about making a short shifter :it reads like this:( I have found a Cheap and easy way to drastically shorten the shift trow on my 1973 914.First cut the lower shifter extension (the mushroom shape piece) approximately in the middle of the shift. Weld a 1 1/2 inch long piece of steel rod of the same diameter between the two pieces,keeping the shaft straight.Then cut three 1 inch lengths of 1 inch diameter pipe.These are used to raise the base plate by using them as spacers.This requires longer mounting bolts.) has any one ever done this ? Spend a day building and assembling one or for the same money you can buy the Weltmeister kit that I no longer use and bolt it right in. It's for a '73 or later sideshifter. PM me if you are interested. |
GeorgeRud |
Apr 30 2009, 01:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
They all seem like a nice idea, but in reality, they don't work too well. The shift linkage is a compromise between excessive effort with short throws and low effort with longer throws. I'm sure Porsche experimented to try to find the right compromise, and they probably came up with the best solution. The short shifters are something that you should try on someone else's car before investing time and money on one. The fact that they're around for free should give you some clue how well they work.
I had one in my early car, and it was OK, but not as nice as moving into a side shifter tranmission with new bushings and careful setup. |
JoeSharp |
Apr 30 2009, 02:25 PM
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In Irvine, Ca. May 15-18 Group: Members Posts: 3,947 Joined: 9-July 03 From: DeLand, Florida Member No.: 898 Region Association: South East States |
They all seem like a nice idea, but in reality, they don't work too well. The shift linkage is a compromise between excessive effort with short throws and low effort with longer throws. I'm sure Porsche experimented to try to find the right compromise, and they probably came up with the best solution. The short shifters are something that you should try on someone else's car before investing time and money on one. The fact that they're around for free should give you some clue how well they work. I had one in my early car, and it was OK, but not as nice as moving into a side shifter tranmission with new bushings and careful setup. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
So.Cal.914 |
Apr 30 2009, 03:39 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
My 72 "tail shifter" did improve with the Weltmeister kit. I also cut one inch off the top of the shifter itself.
I will not be useing one for the 74. |
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