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> Jack Stand Locations, Best/safest spots
roundboy914
post May 19 2004, 08:26 PM
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With all this talk of our cars on jack stands, i was wondering the best spots for the stands to be placed. I usually place the front pair right back of the front wheels, in the side channel on the floor (right inside of the rocker panel). The rear set, i put underneath the engine mountaing bar. Car seems balanced (doesn't move when i'm hauling my 300 pound carcass in and out while bleeding the brakes), i just wonder if it is the best spot.
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post May 19 2004, 08:32 PM
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I put the rears on the engine mount bar and the fronts on the a-arms where the bearings are (the ones closer to the rear)
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post May 19 2004, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(ChrisReale @ May 19 2004, 06:32 PM)
I put the rears on the engine mount bar and the fronts on the a-arms where the bearings are (the ones closer to the rear)

Me too
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post May 19 2004, 09:12 PM
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I don't use jackstands.


I just lift up the car with one hand, and fix what broken with the other. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)

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post May 19 2004, 09:39 PM
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Just lean it up on one side then prop it up with a couple 4X4s. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 19 2004, 11:38 PM
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There is an article in the new Excellence August,on this very subject. It even has pictures.
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post May 19 2004, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ May 19 2004, 07:39 PM)
Just lean it up on one side then prop it up with a couple 4X4s. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 20 2004, 04:41 AM
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i don't have an engine mount bar...

in the back, i usually use the front trailing arm mounts and in front, the A-Arms.
unless i'm doing suspension work, in which case, that's what the donuts are for ...
in Olden Tymes when jackstands were tubular, the round support tubes (once you pulled the inserts) were perfectly sized. now that pretty much all we have to choose from are the Chinese cast-iron square ratchet versions they don't fit quite as well, but i still feel safe enough ...
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post May 20 2004, 08:16 AM
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in the front I am using the round support piece that goes across, under the steering rack... (is that bad?)


in the back, the engine mount bar... I Don't feel safe putting jackstands on the little donut jack points, the shapes just don't match up!

I'm glad someone asked this question, I've been curious, but never remember to ask

boxtr, can you scan that excellece article and post?
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post May 20 2004, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE(tat2dphreak @ May 20 2004, 06:16 AM)
in the front I am using the round support piece that goes across, under the steering rack... (is that bad?)

only to the extent that you may be driving around without the lower cover in place, which really ought to be there. if it's necessary to drive without it, you should replace the mounting hardware, becuase the little braces do add some structural strength.

if you remove the access cover every time you need to put the car on stands, more power to you, but that's more work than i ever had the inclinition for...
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post May 20 2004, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(ArtechnikA @ May 20 2004, 08:57 AM)
QUOTE(tat2dphreak @ May 20 2004, 06:16 AM)
in the front I am using the round support piece that goes across, under the steering rack... (is that bad?)

only to the extent that you may be driving around without the lower cover in place, which really ought to be there. if it's necessary to drive without it, you should replace the mounting hardware, becuase the little braces do add some structural strength.

if you remove the access cover every time you need to put the car on stands, more power to you, but that's more work than i ever had the inclinition for...

I don't have an access cover... is THAT bad?!
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post May 20 2004, 11:43 AM
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I was going to install and aluminum cross bar on my car and it does
not have those braces?!? Are the needed for anything other than
holding the access cover on?
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post May 20 2004, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(75boxster @ May 20 2004, 09:43 AM)
I was going to install an aluminum cross bar on my car and it does
not have those braces?!?

they're part number 911.341.031.01 and they bolt onto the alloy crossmember.
if i were using an alloy crossmember (something which is starting to appear more likely, in the 911, than it did for a long time, for a variety of reasons ...) i'd get a pair and use them... YMMV

the access panel helps keep crap out of the master cylinder and steering rack area, and probably cleans up ithe underbody aerodynamics a bit.

Porsche didn't put any parts on a car they didn't think they had a reason (notice i didn't say 'good reason') to -- there are some issues with undertrays in the 996's - but a 914 is not a 996 ...
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post May 20 2004, 12:47 PM
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Is there a good place to jack the car that will raise the whole back end?

I am getting tired of jacking by the jack posts with that stupid adapter that tries to slip off the jack as soon as the car is raised a few pumps... One of these days the car is going to slip off the jack and throw the 2x4 that is on the jackpad at me. I am not looking forward to it.

I can't jack by the donuts because that is where I usually put my jackstands.
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post May 20 2004, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(jkeyzer @ May 20 2004, 10:47 AM)
Is there a good place to jack the car that will raise the whole back end?

transmission - under the diff carrier.
use a good pad and make sure your transmission and engine mounts are in good shape, but if so - shouldn't be a problem ...
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post May 20 2004, 01:25 PM
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heres the page from the article in Excellence of the 914...if you want i can post the whole article..its got good advice on jacking the car in other areas too


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post May 20 2004, 02:10 PM
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that looks like it's pointing to the donuts... are there other jackstands that fit in/on the donuts? the tops of mine are sahped like a rocking horse leg (kinda flat and thin with aslight dugout...
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post May 20 2004, 03:44 PM
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Wayne, I use the donuts on the front. This also shows how these jack stands fit perfectly into the donuts, I got a set at Sears and another set at Walmart.


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Here's a shot of them holding up the rear.


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post May 20 2004, 03:47 PM
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Finally, here's a shot of all four. I have had the car on these jack stands for about 6 months, I've removed the engine, transmission, front and rear suspension. The car is very stable using the jack stands this way.


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