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| Andyrew |
 Oct 19 2010, 05:21 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait  Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California 
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UPDATE 10-27-10 I went and picked up some of these mounts on craigslist for 20 bucks for a pair. I have manufactured one side, But I dont like how it rocks back and forth a little. I only made it out of 14ga sheet metal, so Im going to retry it with some 1/8 ga metal. Front Fork Mount http://www.amazon.com/Delta-Bike-Hitch-Loc...d_bxgy_sg_img_c http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QJC5F...1RP5FC9V736ZE9W I went and bought this ebay auction. ALMOST had it for 32, but some guy came in at the last minute and bid it to my max... Eh, 52 bucks is still good. I know they are the rain tray clip style but thats what it looks like some of the guys here have, I'll make em work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...RK%3AMEWNX%3AIT (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-172-1288246281_thumb.jpg) |
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| racerbvd |
Oct 19 2010, 05:28 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,369 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Sunny FL. Member No.: 226 Region Association: None |
Why not mount a Yakima Tray & fork on an extra 914 top, there are plenty around. I plan on building one to haul my bikes to the track on..
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| Andyrew |
Oct 19 2010, 05:33 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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I think that my setup is going to be a combo of Joseph's setup on the front
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-39-1147990154.jpg) and Gopacks setup on the rear (I have a 6" rear autocross spoiler, so I need some clearance, or else I'd just copy Josephs setup.) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-2472-1284834896.jpg) |
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| Andyrew |
Oct 19 2010, 05:35 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(racerbvd @ Oct 19 2010, 04:28 PM)  Why not mount a Yakama Tray & fork on an extra 914 top, there are plenty around. I plan on building one to haul my bikes to the track on.. Ive got a spare top, but I dont think that it would be solid enough for me as I want to still be able to carve some corners a little bit.. |
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| mepstein |
Oct 19 2010, 05:51 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,592 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(racerbvd @ Oct 19 2010, 07:28 PM) Why not mount a Yakama Tray & fork on an extra 914 top, there are plenty around. I plan on building one to haul my bikes to the track on.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I managed a bike shop for 7 years. The guys who hung racks on thin sheet metal sports cars always complained of damage to the car. More if it was a heavier mt bike. The rubber coated hooks will also start to bend the metal even at the thicker sections of the seams and edges. The paint will scuff and scratch anywhere it has contact with the bike or the rack. Even with the roof mounted racks you must be careful since a hard turn will pull the bike to the side and put a lot of strain and torque on the clips that hold the roof on. They were not designed for this so be careful. The one pictured is a Bic Sport Rack. Made in the '80, I used it weekly for 5 years. I'm glad I held on to it. it ataches quickly and can be stored in the rear trunk under the targa top. If I was buying one today, I would buy a Yakima or similar for the roof. PS- the bikes mount upside down on this rack, attached by the handlebar and seat so they can easily fit the short roof of a 914. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| racerbvd |
Oct 19 2010, 06:15 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,369 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Sunny FL. Member No.: 226 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Andyrew @ Oct 19 2010, 03:35 PM) QUOTE(racerbvd @ Oct 19 2010, 04:28 PM) Why not mount a Yakama Tray & fork on an extra 914 top, there are plenty around. I plan on building one to haul my bikes to the track on.. Ive got a spare top, but I dont think that it would be solid enough for me as I want to still be able to carve some corners a little bit.. I plan on using plates underneath, so it should be very solid. Plus, I will be able to use the rails on the rack for my Burb.. |
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| Tom_T |
Oct 19 2010, 07:36 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Oct 19 2010, 04:20 PM) Here are some aftermarket options. (From Bowlsby's web site) http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/Accessories.htm "Hardt" (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/bowlsby.net-172-1287530446.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/bowlsby.net-172-1287530447.4.jpg) Okay Andy - I can comment on this one above, because it's mine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) BTW - the Hardt instructions above list 6x16mm Allen Bolts/screws for mounting under the rollbar (3 per side), & that's what was also used on ski racks mounting up under there. Not necessarily in your number order above ...... Cost - It was about $35-45 back in the late 70's from Chick Iverson Porsche+Audi (now Newport Porsche), so if you use the 2x per decade rule of thumb inflation rate, that's about $140-180 in today's dollars. Stability - Listen - common sense has to rule a bit here. You're just NOT going to find any bike rack set-up which allows you to corner all out, as you would without it on. The Hardt B14 was certainly stable enough for me to have a fun time driving, but I didn't go out playing "double the speed limit" (yellow diamond speed warning signs) on the corners either! You have to choose aggressive driving or a bit of common sense speed/cornering - or suffer the consequences to bikes, racks, 914 body parts, etc.! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Set-up & Dismount - About 10-20 mins. including mounting 1-2 bikes - about the same either way on or off - but only 5-10 mins. to get just the bikes off to ride or access the rear trunk (see below) assuming you take off the trunk/seat plates to avoid their sliding or dropping to damage paint with the lid up. Once you've got the hang of it, it was in the shorter time frame, or if you had a partner to help. You'll want the bikes well secured, so a race to mount them isn't helpful, as you're best to recheck & re-tighten everything once. Ergo, dismounting the bike(s) &/or racks is slightly faster. BTW - with quick release wheels I usually removed them & put them in the rear trunk first/out last, in order to avoid theft when in food/pee/gas/etc. stop, since I could use a cable lock on each to secure them to the racks & park it in-view to at least deter theft. Functionality - I used it & it was stable & held the bikes well - even at freeway speeds & on the winders, but I used a couple of old towels doubled up under the plates for the bike seats where they go on the rear trunk/deck lid to protect the paint a bit more than the foam pads did. That said - I still would not use it that way if your 914 has fresh paint, it's still pretty perfect, you're picky &/or is a CW queen. In which case I wouldn't recommend it at all in such cases, and probably not any bike racks nor my other hauling method for that matter. The way it mounts you can remove/replace the targa top with the bikes on, but you still need to take them off to open the rear trunk to stow the top &/or to get at luggage/etc. It can haul either 1 or 2 bikes (street + mountain, 1 for your gal or buddy), with the securing straps to an empty seat plate with just 1 bike (see instructions pic above). I liked them & used them often 76-85 & never had a problem with them, and was very careful to not cause paint damage. But frankly, when hauling just my 1 bike - unless I needed the rear trunk for luggage, camp gear, etc. - I just took off the quick release front hub/wheel & stowed it in the rear trunk with a towel over the rear wall/lip & a shoestring to secure the trunk lid (wink-wink-nod-nod), since I didn't have quick release pedals & the height was a bit more than the trunk closed dimension with them on. That was usually a lot faster & easier for a quick trip by myself to San Diego or wherever to go cruzin with my buddies. Future Use & What to Do Different - That above was when it was my DD & only car as well, so I had to use it more functionally then - than I & others do today as a collector/vintage car (or than I will do - whenever my resto is done, that is! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) ). I doubt that I'll use them soon after my resto - until a later time when the paint isn't quite perfect anymore, unless if I can take some additional steps to protect the paint & bodywork from damage when in use. Other Bike Rack Ideas - I've seen another set-up similar to Elliot's modified Yakima set-up below, except that it had 90 degree-angled riser plates similar to on the Hardt I have - connected under the rollbar & extending up, to carry a standard Yakama cross-bar above & clear of the rollbar & targa top. That guy had used it for skiis, surfboards, kayaks, bikes, etc. The downside is that everything had to come off to access the rear trunk. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-1659-1174070864.jpg) . For skiis alone, that is why I preferred the ski racks which spanned flat above the targa top from the rollbar mounts to the ones in the windshield frame, because the skiis could stay on & locked in place, but still get access to the rear trunk for your stuff. I used these ski racks for about the same price & purchased from the same P+A dealer in the late 70's.  . . Word of Caution on mounting into Targa Top - The FG targa top will crack & break with the stresses of a bike rack etc. mounted into it - even if it's a 2nd top, which is just asking for trouble. A lot of VW Westy owners have had trouble with the FG pop-tops cracking/failing with the various roof rack mounted on them & loaded up. It would have to be a highly reinforced top - or steel with under bracing as with the 916/914-6GT racers' steel roofs - in order to hold up. Even then, you're adding a lot of stresses to the windshield frame, which can be bent out of position simply by people using it as a hand-hold getting in & out of the car! Plates or washers alone underneath won't prevent the FG from cracking with a couple of bikes above & the speed & cornering forces the 914 will generate - & a steel X-brace with welded plates for the rack attachments - similar to what many 914/4 & 914-6 racers use for bracing the rollbar to windshield frame - may or may not "save" the FG top from stresses from the through bolts to the rack. Plus, I don't even know if the targa top latches will stand up to the stresses & weight of a couple of bikes up there! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Hope this helps your quest for the Holy Grail! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
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| Andyrew |
Oct 19 2010, 07:40 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Wonderful Info guys! I'll update the first post later today!
Thanks! Andrew |
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| Elliot Cannon |
Oct 19 2010, 07:53 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None 
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Mine has been tested at 110 MPH with the bike on it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Cheers, Elliot |
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| Andyrew |
Oct 19 2010, 08:24 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Thanks for the input Elliot! Think you could answer a couple other questions? This would greatly benefit others looking at building a similar mount!
1. How easy is it to set up (time, difficulty aka preventing scratches) 2. How easy is it to take down (same as above) 3. How confident are you during cornering and braking that nothing will move 4. What was your cost 5. Would you do anything different/ modifications 6. Does it cause any scratches Thanks!! Andrew |
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| Gint |
Oct 19 2010, 09:10 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,094 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
Excellent thread. Thanks for posting this Andrew. I've been wanting a bike rack for my 914 for a while now. I've always likes Elliot's setup.
Elliot, don't you have a thread on it somewhere? If not could you post some pics and details of the front mount in particular? |
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| Andyrew |
Oct 19 2010, 09:21 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Gint, His thread is located under his pics, AS with everyone's setup.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=52072&st=0 |
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| Gint |
Oct 19 2010, 09:24 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,094 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Sweet, thanks. Didn't see it hiding there.
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| Andyrew |
Oct 19 2010, 09:30 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Good point, I moved the links above the pics and put in some spacing.
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| Gint |
Oct 19 2010, 09:36 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,094 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Much better. Again, great thread.
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| mepstein |
Oct 20 2010, 07:30 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,592 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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I don't know if our targa tops are thicker than a Westy fiberglass top but mine did not crack over 5 years of daily use. Yakima does make mounts to fit fiberglass tops used on pick up trucks. The mounting feet are nice and wide and distribute the pressure. I have a feeling that 2 racing bikes that total less than 40lbs is much less than what Westy owners are loading up on their tops. There are no quick release pedals but you do need to take the time to remove them if you put the bike in the trunk, otherwise you will dent the trunk from the inside out. The metal is very thin and the pedal will force alot of pressure to a very small spot. * Remember - left side pedals thread in reverse. |
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| Andyrew |
Oct 20 2010, 08:54 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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mepstein,
If you could post some pictures of your setup I would love to put it in with the rest of them! Thanks! Andrew |
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| mepstein |
Oct 20 2010, 09:51 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,592 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Car is being restored. This will have to do for now. I also used a strap that went through the crankset to each end of the rack to keep the bike from swaying on turns. I -sort of- took the turns more carefully with the bikes on the top but still did almost 100 at times on the straights. Don't tell my kids (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Mark
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| Andyrew |
Oct 20 2010, 09:56 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Thanks! I was hoping you had a pic from the years you used it daily, but this will certainly do!!
Thanks! |
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