914/6 vs 911 muffler, What are the differences? |
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914/6 vs 911 muffler, What are the differences? |
smdubovsky |
Dec 1 2008, 10:51 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 331 Joined: 27-September 04 From: Silver Spring, MD Member No.: 2,837 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Ok, I've searched and come up w/ nada. How do you identify if a muffler is a 911 or 914/6 version? I know the tip is in a slightly different location.
Or, more importantly (to me;), which version do I have? |
SLITS |
Dec 2 2008, 08:23 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
As far as I am concerned, they are the same. I used an early 911 muffler on my six conversion and it fit fine. My second conversion has the same. Maybe with a real /6 rear valence the exhaust exit might be slightly different, but a sawzall and a welder will fix that in a jiffy.
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smdubovsky |
Dec 2 2008, 08:32 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 331 Joined: 27-September 04 From: Silver Spring, MD Member No.: 2,837 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I sorta agree w/ you, but if its a real /6 muffler then it has some $$ value to some CW. 911 ones are cheap in comparison Im sure. Me? I just want to cut it up and make a sport muffler... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Root_Werks |
Dec 2 2008, 08:46 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,484 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I think the pre 73' mufflers all used the same part number after a while. I thought I remember seeing in a book different original part numbers for 2.0, 2.2 and 2.4 engines and later they all got the 2.4 part number.
Also, if I remember right, the 914-6 muffler carried the same part number as the 911 2.0 cars. I think anyway. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
ws91420 |
Dec 2 2008, 08:57 AM
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Yes I have one a Lensley 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,063 Joined: 10-September 03 From: Ruther Glen,VA (halfway between sticks and civilization) Member No.: 1,137 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
part no for 914/6 muffler 901 111 011 11
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SLITS |
Dec 2 2008, 10:35 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
914/6 OE Style from Pelican is $538.75 Part # 901-111-011-11-M350
911 '65-'73 from Pelican is $387.25 Part# 911-111-025-00-M350 Is the tailpipe exit worth the extra $151.50? Both are made by Dansk. |
Root_Werks |
Dec 2 2008, 11:13 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,484 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I don't know my 914-6 stuff very well. Must just be the difference in the tail pipe then? I thought I remembered seeing in old parts books from World Pac, and I mean like 15 years ago the early 2.0 911's and 914-6's used the same mufflers. But maybe that was just WP's listing of a part that would "work"? Could also have been a F.A.S.T. catalog...
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Dave_Darling |
Dec 2 2008, 11:10 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,060 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
The tail pipe is in a different location on the 911 and 914-6 mufflers. The 914-6 muffler has the pipe in a location to fit the cutout in the 914-6 rear valance, while the 911 muffler's tailpipe happens to fit exactly in the notch in the rear valance of the later 914-4s.
I don't know how to tell which is which, other than comparing them to known samples or finding the part numbers... --DD |
smdubovsky |
Dec 3 2008, 07:03 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 331 Joined: 27-September 04 From: Silver Spring, MD Member No.: 2,837 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Dave, thats what I had heard.
PET shows all 911s had a 911.xxx type muffler where the 914/6 used a 901.xxx number. I can see no obvious #s stamped in mine. Did Dansk stamp them? The Leistritz(sp?) and bischoff ones both seem to have stampings. Mine came w/ my /6 so it may very well be original? Searching pelican, most 911 tips seem to to bend down a little and then out vs straight out for the one I have. I'll ask some local 911 guys to check their mufflers... |
Eric_Shea |
Dec 3 2008, 04:19 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I may have a -6 muffler on my 911... pipe exits funny. I was ready to cut and weld it. I'll trade plus enough cash to repaint the 911 muffler with POR-20.
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smdubovsky |
Dec 3 2008, 04:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 331 Joined: 27-September 04 From: Silver Spring, MD Member No.: 2,837 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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Eric_Shea |
Dec 3 2008, 04:40 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Just had knee surgery #6... I'll try to hobble down to the garage soon. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Racer |
Dec 3 2008, 07:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Northern Virginia Member No.: 1,073 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
At first glance, and that angle, I think the OP has a 911 muffler. As mentioned, the "6" muffler tip is placed "lower" and fits through the 6 valance.
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carr914 |
Dec 3 2008, 08:19 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 122,011 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
Just had knee surgery #6... I'll try to hobble down to the garage soon. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Wuss, I just had #8 and I'm back running. And I'm older than you, you little whipper-snapper (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) T.C. |
Eric_Shea |
Dec 4 2008, 01:28 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Less than 48 hours and I'm up without crutches! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
(Ferg's gonna be pissy about this one... there's spots down there!) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) |
carr914 |
Dec 4 2008, 07:23 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 122,011 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
Crutches? I just limp like a sunabitch.
Cut that tip off and reweld it at a good angle T.C. |
smdubovsky |
Dec 6 2008, 08:06 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 331 Joined: 27-September 04 From: Silver Spring, MD Member No.: 2,837 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Eric,
Thanks. I had seen some of those mufflers for sale on the bird board (911 classifieds). The tip bends down then out. I had assumed THAT was the 911 one and I had the /6 one but w/ your valence I bet I have that backwards. |
Eric_Shea |
Dec 6 2008, 12:16 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Well.. I either get a 911 muffler or I cut this one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Decisions, decisions.
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