OT: Working on my shop car, The wagon Porsche never built. . . |
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OT: Working on my shop car, The wagon Porsche never built. . . |
aircooledtechguy |
Dec 23 2011, 07:20 PM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I've had a long term project going now to turn my '67 Squareback into my shop car. While I love driving my 914, it has limitations as a daily parts hauler. I love old styling with new technology and updates, so my goal is to turn my humble Square into the wagon that Porsche never made. I want it to drive and handle more like a Porsche than a VW wagon and it's got to be a true "Sleeper" (not a real problem; since it's a wagon). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-9730-1324689630.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-9730-1324689631.2.jpg) This has been a 4-5 phase project. Phase-1 - Convert it to Porsche 914 2.0L motor. Make it physically adapted to the car and running MS2 w/ Ford EDIS ignition. Get it tuned to be a daily driver. DONE!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-9730-1324689631.3.jpg) Phase-2 - Make the motor look good and freshen it up with new P&Cs. The heads were freshened only about 2K miles before I got it, by me when it was in a clients 914 that he converted to Subie power. I noticed that once I had a few miles on it myself, it was using a bit of oil. So I upgraded to a new set of 96mm P&Cs. So now it's a 2056. I had my local powder coater do all the tins in black and the plenum and runners in grey for a stock look. I'm running T-4 H/Es with a modified bus header and a Summit Racing Flow Master clone muffler. So I had those ceramic coated in black so they are not attention grabbers from the back. This car is a sleeper (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) DONE!! Phase-3 - Convert the rear suspension to the later style IRS and install a Porsche 923 trans out of a Porsche 912E. The rear suspension is DONE!! While at it, I upgraded it with 914 rear brakes, urethane bushings, adjustable spring plates and a rear sway bar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-9730-1324689632.4.jpg) Since the trans is taller than a stock 4-speed and cutting into the car can't happen due to rear seat issues. I gained the 1.5" I needed by spacing the body off the rear suspension with spacers. So here I sit, on the final leg of phase-3. I now need to couple the motor/trans and lift it into it's final place and fab rear engine hanger mounts for the rear bar. It's late and I'm tired. . . Phase-4 - Front suspension upgrade. Currently in-work Phase-5 - Paint so it doesn't look so crappy, though it does add to the "sleeper" persona. . . Stay tuned for more later. . . |
BajaXJ92 |
Dec 23 2011, 07:30 PM
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Extended Member Group: Members Posts: 2,146 Joined: 20-April 06 From: Prescott, AZ Member No.: 5,895 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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JRust |
Dec 23 2011, 07:47 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,310 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Looks like a cool project! Can't wait to see some pics & video of it once roadworthy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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NORD |
Dec 23 2011, 07:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,505 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Lynden Washington Member No.: 2,756 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Very Cool Now Zebra paint job almost there The Mahles look good Autocross school in the spring! Will it be ready? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/santa_smiley.gif) |
Krieger |
Dec 23 2011, 07:56 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,765 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None |
I dig this car! You have to keep us posted.
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Tom_T |
Dec 23 2011, 08:45 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
I've always loved those Squarebacks! Several buddies back in the 60s & 70s had them as surf-wagons, as a cool alternative to a VW Bus or early Woodies.
Another HS buddy front-ended his new 69 911S grad present, then got a beater VW Splitty van & had the 911S engine/transaxle & suspension, instruments, etc. on it - but left it looking like a ratty rust bucket. He became known for doing wheelies in the school parking lot, and for dragging & beating the 60's muscle cars around town in the stop-light-drags - several of which had a bus full of us geeky HS kids in it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) That looks like it will be both a hot & cool build, especially with a really slick paint job on it! |
phillstek |
Dec 23 2011, 10:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 350 Joined: 19-May 10 From: Byron Bay, Australia Member No.: 11,741 Region Association: None |
Looks great and can't wait to see it done (which appears to be soon). I really like type 3's, I got my driver's licence in my mum's 1600 fastback. The dash was way cooler then my brother's beetle and it went a lot better too.
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914werke |
Dec 23 2011, 10:56 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,951 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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swood |
Dec 23 2011, 11:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,839 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Strong Beach Member No.: 251 Region Association: None |
subscribed! looking forward to the "how-to" thread...that is sweet!
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IronHillRestorations |
Dec 23 2011, 11:33 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,781 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
Very cool project! That's one of my favorite wagons. I missed getting my aunt's nice clean CA squareback wagon, because my cousin is a nertz.
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mrbubblehead |
Dec 24 2011, 12:48 AM
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Twodollardoug Group: Members Posts: 1,155 Joined: 17-December 10 From: calimesa ca. Member No.: 12,492 Region Association: Southern California |
too cool. ive never had a type 3. is it i window warper? do the side windows bend open instead of being hinged?
i didnt know the torsion housing was removable in type 3s. very handy to have it removable. |
orange914 |
Dec 24 2011, 01:24 AM
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http://5starmediaworks.com/index.html Group: Members Posts: 3,371 Joined: 26-March 05 From: Ceres, California Member No.: 3,818 Region Association: Northern California |
5 speed for freeway delivery... cool!
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aircooledtechguy |
Dec 24 2011, 05:01 PM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Made good progress today. Joined the motor and trans hopefully for the last time.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-9730-1324767704.1.jpg) Lifted the car and got the motor and trans into position, then dropped the car onto the motor/trans. LIKE A GLOVE!! Then I had to design and fab a pair of rear hangers for the rear mount bar. The bar is a stock bus bar, so it's rubber mounted at the motor. So these are solid mounts to the car. The pic is 90degrees off, but you all get the idea. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-9730-1324767705.2.jpg) Once I bolted these up, the motor and trans was finally home; not hooked-up, but home in it's final location. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-9730-1324767706.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-9730-1324767707.4.jpg) Things I have to re-engineer before I can close out phase-3 are: - The clutch cable. The stock one is about a foot too short now and I need a custom-made bowden tube. That should be interesting. . . I'm going to test fit a stock 914 cable assembly just to see how it does. . . - E-brake cables. Same issues as the clutch but found a company that makes cu$tom e-brake cable$. - Make new brake lines. This should be a snap. - Make a custom off-set shift coupler for the trans. Right now the shift rod is above the torsion housing and the trans shift shaft is below it. . . - Figure out what to do for a shifter. I think I already have this one done, but i don't want to jinx it. . . - Hook-up the EFI and all the wiring and fuel system. I lowered it down to see how it's riding and while it looks great, I may raise it up about an inch since it's almost riding on the bump-stops. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-9730-1324767707.5.jpg) Well time to START my Christmas shopping. . . (I do better under pressure) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
3d914 |
Dec 24 2011, 05:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,275 Joined: 24-September 03 From: Benson, AZ Member No.: 1,191 Region Association: Southwest Region |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-9730-1324767707.4.jpg) Well time to START my Christmas shopping. . . (I do better under pressure) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Very cool wagon. I love sleepers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) What type of heat exchangers are those? This is a 2.0L right? |
Jakeodoule |
Dec 24 2011, 05:20 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 353 Joined: 10-October 08 From: Des Moines Iowa Member No.: 9,630 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Very nice work Nate!
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Dr Evil |
Dec 24 2011, 05:34 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,032 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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Dr Evil |
Dec 24 2011, 05:36 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,032 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Ya know, I see things like this and I want to move next to your shop (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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rick 918-S |
Dec 24 2011, 05:36 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,786 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Nice project!
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aircooledtechguy |
Dec 24 2011, 08:36 PM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Thanks for the kind words guys. I've had this car for about 8 years in various set-ups but basically stock.
is it i window warper? do the side windows bend open instead of being hinged? No. Regular hinged type quarters on Squarebacks. The fastbacks had the windows that just bent. . . Freaky!! What type of heat exchangers are those? This is a 2.0L right? The H/Es are from a VW 411/412. They are a very basic H/E like our 914 ones. Until I had them ceramic coated, I had been running a set of heavy Bus H/Es. They worked fine but took a long time to heat up the aluminum jacket that is cast around the pipes. These should heat-up within a couple blocks and I save about 20# off the back of the car (this thing is a drift car in the wet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) ). The motor is a 2.0L out of a 914. I've just added a set of flat-top 96mm P&Cs to bump it up to a 2056cc. With the worn P&Cs it was a lot of fun to spank Honda fart-cars out on the hwy. It pulled really strong. Now with the added CR and size, I should surprise a lot more too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) The car only weighs about 1800# (well more with my big @$$). |
VaccaRabite |
Dec 24 2011, 08:58 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,593 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
The T3 Wagons were my favorites of the aircooled VWs. I want to own one some day. I love this build!
Zach |
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