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| 2mAn |
 Jun 27 2016, 04:51 PM
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trying to see how long I can go without a 914  Group: Members Posts: 487 Joined: 14-November 13 From: Westchester (Los Angeles) Member No.: 16,644 Region Association: Southern California  |
QUOTE(aircooledtechguy @ Mar 20 2016, 11:43 AM)  It laid down about what I thought it would. 150 RWHP with a calculated 180+/- at the crank. I ran it with the muffler removed and the straight pipe on. Since the dyno was in the center of the shop, it was freaking loud!! 6500 rpm goodness. . . thats pretty damn good! I dont want to go back through the entire thread but what are the specs on your motor? Love the whole concept of this car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| aircooledtechguy |
Jun 27 2016, 06:35 PM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(2mAn @ Jun 27 2016, 03:51 PM) QUOTE(aircooledtechguy @ Mar 20 2016, 11:43 AM) It laid down about what I thought it would. 150 RWHP with a calculated 180+/- at the crank. I ran it with the muffler removed and the straight pipe on. Since the dyno was in the center of the shop, it was freaking loud!! 6500 rpm goodness. . . thats pretty damn good! I dont want to go back through the entire thread but what are the specs on your motor? Love the whole concept of this car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Thanks. It's a 2316cc (80x96), CW crank, H-beam rods, KB pistons w/ custom Webcam Ported/polished 914 2.0L heads w/ big valves, custom 4into1 header w/ lots of other little details along the way. All built by my son Josh when he was 14 y/o (his first motor build). Induction is MS3X w/ 45mm ITBs LS2 coils w/ fully sequential fuel & spark. |
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| aircooledtechguy |
Jul 28 2016, 09:40 PM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Can't wait!! Hotel reservations are in. The car is running awesome. I've got a final dyno day set to get the race tune dialed to the max. so far, the salt is in great condition. We're going back to World of Speed @ Bonneville September 9th - 13th with the Squarsche to defend our record and raise the bar a lot higher!! My son has to get his driver's license 5 days before we leave. If he does, he'll be racing for the first time co-driving!!
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| mgp4591 |
Jul 29 2016, 01:53 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,483 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region 
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I've got it marked on my calendar, right after I come back from RRC! It'll be great to see you again - tune it up and give er hell!
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| steuspeed |
Jul 29 2016, 02:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,008 Joined: 12-July 11 From: Portland, Oregon Member No.: 13,308 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Awesome! I love this thing.
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| rgalla9146 |
Jul 29 2016, 06:44 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,654 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None
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What a great story.
I'll bet this years event at B'ville will be awesome. Many regulars have been building and waiting over the last two years just like you. I hope it exceeds your expectations. Good Luck, be safe. |
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| aircooledtechguy |
Aug 31 2016, 11:53 AM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Got with Mario Velotta of www.thedubshop.net yesterday and converted my car from MAP based enrichment (speed density) to TPS based enrichment (Alpha N). The reason was that with the higher lift and longer duration cam, the motor doesn't make a ton of vacuum @ idle (about 72kpa)which can make MAP based tuning tricky. He also discovered that my map sensor had been malfunctioning and needed to be replaced anyway. This would explain my going lean @ altitude problem I noticed last weekend on a drive up the mountains, so. . . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
He got it dialed-in and it runs awesome!! Instant throttle response at any RPM now. I'll be going to Bonneville this year with about 70 more HP at the wheels over last year (2014). Now I'm off to get a 4-wheel alignment. After that, I just have to pull the passenger seat out and remove the un-necessary stuff out of the car and we're ready for the trip next Thursday. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) Maybe this year we'll gain entry into the "130 Club"; we'll definitely be a lot faster than 2014!! Here's the final dyno pull from yesterday. . . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bReOErRtRxE...eature=youtu.be |
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| 914werke |
Aug 31 2016, 12:46 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,951 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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What were you using as a MAP sensor and where was it located?
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| aircooledtechguy |
Aug 31 2016, 02:27 PM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(rdauenhauer @ Aug 31 2016, 11:46 AM) What were you using as a MAP sensor and where was it located? I have a board like this with one engine MAP and one atmospheric MAP. https://www.diyautotune.com/product/mapdadd...ic-correction/# They are located on my ECU. Of course he had one in stock and soldered it on in minutes and we were back in business. |
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| rhodyguy |
Sep 1 2016, 10:10 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,192 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
70 hp? ZOIKS! I can see a fancy plaque hanging in the shop. Then you make the local news and you have 70 hour weeks. Go get em' Nate!
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| aircooledtechguy |
Sep 10 2016, 04:24 AM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
We made it back down for round 2 @ Bonneville. This year we have the motor we should have had back in 2014. Also, my son Josh will also be driving the car too!! He literally picked-up his drivers license 4 days ago (Tuesday) and will be making his racing debut today out on the black line on the short course. If there's time, we'll re-tech, re-number the car and I'll take a crack at it
Going through tech (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-9730-1473503055.1.jpg) Josh pre-race photos (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-9730-1473503056.2.jpg) This years crew- Josh, me & Robert (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-9730-1473503057.3.jpg) 7 |
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| maf914 |
Sep 10 2016, 05:16 AM
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Not a Guru! Group: Members Posts: 3,049 Joined: 30-April 03 From: Central Florida Member No.: 632 Region Association: None
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Nate, Thanks for the great thread and the updates. Good luck.
Looking at these recent photos of your car, it appears there may be a gap between the top of the front bumper-spoiler and the body work. At 100+ mph there might be a lot of air pushing through that gap creating lift and drag. Just a thought. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
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| aircooledtechguy |
Sep 10 2016, 05:49 AM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(maf914 @ Sep 10 2016, 04:16 AM) Nate, Thanks for the great thread and the updates. Good luck. Looking at these recent photos of your car, it appears there may be a gap between the top of the front bumper-spoiler and the body work. At 100+ mph there might be a lot of air pushing through that gap creating lift and drag. Just a thought. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) We're going to be trying it with and without the front bumper/air dam to see which is faster. Last time, we did run our fastest w/o it. |
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| aircooledtechguy |
Sep 10 2016, 06:35 PM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Today was the first day of racing. Josh kicked @$$!! I'm one super proud dad!!
On his first run (the qualifying run), he sandbagged it in 4th gear and ran a 104mph revealing me of my previous 2014 VW Challenge record. It wasn't a clean run, but it was good enough with the new motor. His second run was mostly clean and the fastest of the day @ 115.4mph!! He's definitely raised the bar. What makes this even better is that he only recieved his drivers license 4 days ago and this was literally the first time he drove any car on his own w/o either me or his mom in the car with him!! I'm super proud of him!! We're running just a little rich which will hurt power, so I e-mailed a datalog and tune to Mario from thedubshop.net and he's making positive changes to the tune. So tomorrow we should be even better. You just gotta love technology. I ran my fastest w/o the front air dam and bumper assembly back in 2014, so we're going to run it removed and see how if that helps. We're also going to be taping all the seams and vents with duct tape too. :wink: Getting ready to run getting last minute advise from Dad: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-9730-1473554103.1.jpg) Carlos Wheeldon checking his belts and safety gear before his first run: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-9730-1473554104.2.jpg) Away he goes. . . (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-9730-1473554104.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-9730-1473554104.4.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-9730-1473554105.5.jpg) |
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| rhodyguy |
Sep 10 2016, 07:59 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,192 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
What is redline with the new config? Sounds like a completely dif car on the dyno.
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| aircooledtechguy |
Sep 11 2016, 06:23 AM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Sep 10 2016, 06:59 PM) What is redline with the new config? Sounds like a completely dif car on the dyno. I've got the rev-limiter set at a fairly conservative 6.5k. The motor begins to drop off on power @ 6.2k, so there's no real reason to rev more. |
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| aircooledtechguy |
Sep 11 2016, 06:27 AM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Josh's fastest run (115.4mph) from 9/10/16. You can hear his excitement!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFYlj9ijO7Q |
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| Dion |
Sep 11 2016, 06:51 AM
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RN Group: Members Posts: 2,801 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Audubon,PA Member No.: 2,766 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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Congrats Nate and to your son Josh. I've been following this thread, awesome
stuff. Just so cool. Keep going and be safe. |
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| KELTY360 |
Sep 11 2016, 11:16 AM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,091 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(aircooledtechguy @ Sep 10 2016, 05:35 PM) We're also going to be taping all the seams and vents with duct tape too. :wink: Better make sure it's some of that special 130 mph duct tape! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Congrats to you and Josh...that is just huuuge! Good luck on your runs Nate. |
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| aircooledtechguy |
Sep 11 2016, 07:01 PM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Today, first thing we partook in the HotVWs Magazine group photo shoot. This is always fun. Then we headed out to the start line for racing. Mario from www.thedubshop.net worked up a pair of tunes that made 10% fuel correction and 20% correction. The one that worked the best was the 20% leaner correction.
Josh finished-up the last 3 of his 6 runs. He improved with runs of 116.7mph, 117.4mph and his top speed was 117.786mph!! I still can't believe how fast he went with only 6 solo drives under his belt!! After lunch, I went through tech and began my runs. Even though it was hot, I wanted to at least make the slower qualifying run before the cool morning tomorrow. I completely sandbagged the run and went 107mph. I decided to make one more run in the heat and ran a 117.5mph. So Josh currently still holds the record, but I suspect I could best it in the cool morning air if I get a clean run. |
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