The 914 5-Lug 911 Suspension Question and Answer Thread, All you wanted to know in one place... Options

[914werke]

Ok so here is my semi-annual bump & addition to this classic thread.
The interest in converting to, or using 911 rolling gear on the 914 never wanes.
After re-reading this thread (& having a chuckle) it seems the one area that @Eric Shea you left out was the variety of front hubs of different dimension that are available.



In many cases when folks choose this path they are also adding flares so there may be less need to scrutinize wheel to fender fitment, but what about when keeping an narrow body car?
Is there a matrix when using OE Porsche Fuchs, ATS ect. wheels in combination with the proper size hubs to allow the optimal tire to fender clearance? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

[mgarrison]

I just posted this in another thread, but might be good to have it here with your hub info!

[NARP74]

Nice info @914werke , my conversion was done when I bought the car, but I never knew what parts were used. Maybe I can figure that out now.

@mgarrison , I have seen that chart before. I have wondered if the 951 and 911 7 inch wheels have the same dims since they are not on the chart.

[ClayPerrine]

I have wondered if the 951 and 911 7 inch wheels have the same dims since they are not on the chart.

The 951 wheels have a different back spacing from the 911 wheels. The 951 wheels fit on a 914 better than the 911 wheels because of the backspacing.

[914werke]

here is a updated chart for narrow body fitment options

[914werke]

I have wondered if the 951 and 911 7 inch wheels have the same dims since they are not on the chart.

The 951 wheels have a different back spacing from the 911 wheels. The 951 wheels fit on a 914 better than the 911 wheels because of the backspacing.

To make it more confusing there are early & late versions:
so 951. from the 944
Early ->1986 had an offset of 23.3 mm
Late 87-> had an 52.3 mm offset (for ABS )

[burton73]

I have wondered if the 951 and 911 7 inch wheels have the same dims since they are not on the chart.

The 951 wheels have a different back spacing from the 911 wheels. The 951 wheels fit on a 914 better than the 911 wheels because of the backspacing.

Clay,

You have said to me at Red Rocks last year that a 951 wheel fits a non-flared car. When I look at my 951 7in wheels next to a 911 7in wheel they look the same to me and I have measured them on the ground with a tape measure siting side by side. Some people say they fit big brakes. Can you bring some (Clay clarity) for us on this matter

Owner of 2 -951 7s and 4 951 8s--- in 16inches


Thanks,


Bob B

[NARP74]

It's the 7s I was asking about. I see the 8s listed, I never see the info on the 7s. My car has 7s and 8s in the 951 on a narrow body.

[76-914]

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[ClayPerrine]

I have wondered if the 951 and 911 7 inch wheels have the same dims since they are not on the chart.

The 951 wheels have a different back spacing from the 911 wheels. The 951 wheels fit on a 914 better than the 911 wheels because of the backspacing.

Clay,

You have said to me at Red Rocks last year that a 951 wheel fits a non-flared car. When I look at my 951 7in wheels next to a 911 7in wheel they look the same to me and I have measured them on the ground with a tape measure siting side by side. Some people say they fit big brakes. Can you bring some (Clay clarity) for us on this matter

Owner of 2 -951 7s and 4 951 8s--- in 16inches


Thanks,


Bob B

Bob,

I have the 951 7s on the front of my car. I have never tried them on a non-flared car. I know the offset is different, but I am not sure on the numbers.

I am going to take a front wheel off my big six and put it on the factory six just to see if it will clear. I will post pictures later tonight.

Clay

[NARP74]

I have 951 7s on a narrow body front and rear now and they work great. The car came with the rear wheel well lips massaged a bit, just mashed down in a neater way than I could do it. Clearance front and rear is just fine.

[ClayPerrine]

I have 951 7s on a narrow body front and rear now and they work great. The car came with the rear wheel well lips massaged a bit, just mashed down in a neater way than I could do it. Clearance front and rear is just fine.

Guess I don't need to take pictures now.

Clay

[914werke]

Hmm Id argue that if you have to "massage" & mash the stiffening lip flat on the rear to fit them, they dont fit "Just fine" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

[NARP74]

Hmm Id argue that is you have to "massage" & mash the stiffening lip flat on the rear to fit them, they dont fit "Just fine" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

Well it came like that. YMMV The massaging might have been due to them trying 8s on the rear first. They were close but rubbed at a desired ride height. No changes to the front that I can tell. I do have a factory installed side to side rear variance that others seem to come with.

[burton73]

The question is will the 7s 951 16in fit great on the back without doing anything to the rears and not have it scrape If the offset is different. Like I said the 7 951s look to be the same as a 911 7in 16in. The fronts are not a question. They only scrape in a tight turn going up a driveway.

Best Bob B

[rick 918-S]

Anyone know if 944 front hubs are the same as 911? I was on ebay surfing and saw 944 hubs listed. Visually they appears to be the same. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Some of you guys are good with interchange part number stuff.

[rick 918-S]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif) one more time to the top for those that have parts cross reference

[rick 918-S]

I ordered a set of Boxster axles. The come complete to the splined stub. Lets see if any of these parts will offer another option.

[ClayPerrine]

I ordered a set of Boxster axles. The come complete to the splined stub. Lets see if any of these parts will offer another option.

I used 993 axles with the 6-aoewd.transmission. They fit into the 911 hubs, and the bolted to the transmission with no issues.


944 front hubs won't work on a 914. No bearings available and the offset is completely wrong.

[bdstone914]

@rick 918-S

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Anyone know if 944 front hubs are the same as 911? I was on ebay surfing and saw 944 hubs listed. Visually they appears to be the same. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Some of you guys are good with interchange part number stuff.
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They are shorter by about 1/2 " and require longer studs and spacers on 911 struts to clear the brakes.