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> The 914 5-Lug 911 Suspension Question and Answer Thread, All you wanted to know in one place...
MoveQik
post Mar 18 2014, 09:03 PM
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Exactly. This "classic" thread was wrong from the start. Eric will need to update the first post of this thread. If I were an admin, I would have done it by now.

Speaking of classic...you post this without even so much as a polite question to the OP as to the accuracy of the thread. It turns out he was dead on and don't even offer an apology? Then you complain about the way he treats you. That is awesome. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Mar 18 2014, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(MoveQik @ Mar 18 2014, 07:03 PM) *

QUOTE(tomeric914 @ Mar 16 2014, 05:13 PM) *


Exactly. This "classic" thread was wrong from the start. Eric will need to update the first post of this thread. If I were an admin, I would have done it by now.

Speaking of classic...you post this without even so much as a polite question to the OP as to the accuracy of the thread. It turns out he was dead on and don't even offer an apology? Then you complain about the way he treats you. That is awesome. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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oh and speaking of childish. Unfounded accusations, and demands of correction, based on ones assumptions would classify as childish ( or egotistic ) in my book any day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Exactly. This "classic" thread was wrong from the start. Eric will need to update the first post of this thread. If I were an admin, I would have done it by now.

pretty brash statement for someone in the wrong eh ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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post Mar 19 2014, 04:01 AM
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Mar 18 2014, 10:03 PM) *

914-6 struts are the same as 911T struts yet have a 914.341.xxx.xx part number.



914 341 091 00 and 914 341 092 00 are the numbers on the struts I'll be using. They came off a 911T but that is the 914/6 part number.

One question I know these take the early balljoints (which I have), but does it it use a special bolt?
Kind of looks like an ordinary bolt to me....
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post Mar 19 2014, 08:22 AM
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pretty brash statement for someone in the wrong eh ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

No your absolutely right, my apologies to Eric.

What are the chances that the all of struts I own are 914/6 when I don't own a real 6? Adding the 914/6 strut housing part numbers to the beginning of the thread would be a helpful addition to this classic thread.
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post Mar 19 2014, 10:24 AM
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No worries Tom. Thanks.

I'll grab the part number that Mark posted and include them.
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post Mar 19 2014, 10:34 AM
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Just a thought - could you not have a custom race made that would fit the larger diameter of the 911 with an inner diameter that would match the bearing portion of the 914 bearing (and thus match up with std 914 struts)?

Not sure this would be cheaper than the 911T strut option, but if made in quantity...
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post Mar 19 2014, 10:45 AM
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Clay was looking for such a bearing and, with so many bearing options, you would think it already exists. That's what he mentioned on the previous page... it doesn't seem to exist. The solution there would be to have a machinist spin up the "outer" race so it would fit the 911 hub with a 914 bearing in it. Then it has to be hardened. Costs are now mounting in the face of a proper strut.

Then you would have to deal with caliper and rotor offsets. The "early" 914 struts would probably be your only option but, it probably would line up properly for a vented rotor (which is the main advantage of a -6 over a -4 in terms of front braking). Add up machining adapters etc. and again... I believe we're back to the proper strut being a less expensive and less "kludged" option.
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post Mar 19 2014, 12:43 PM
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Eric, my next race car will be a historic 4 which will stay 4 lug. It will have more than 140 hp, so what is the best option for the CV's? I suspect it might be drill the dowell pin holes and use extra bolts, or will they just detonate the same.

Cheers,
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post Mar 19 2014, 01:45 PM
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This is my favorite system:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=91963

Not only do you get the largest CV's available, you get the real benefit of the free floating axles which allow the CV's to find their natural torque band and no adapters.
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post Apr 22 2015, 02:40 PM
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Wow great read, thanks for putting this together!
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I have a older GT clone that came to me with a few issues. Car is rust free (pretty much), and was a race car/track car on the west coast, I am converting it back to a street car- I figured it easier to civilize a race car than fix rust.
One of the PO related problems is someone forgot to tighten the axle nut on one side which trashed the Hub's inner face.
What I have is Porsche P/N 901-331-605-06
I'm not sure what year 911 hub to look for.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
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post Jun 3 2015, 07:07 AM
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Excellent info.
Thank you
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post Nov 19 2016, 09:33 AM
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Eric,

Great article and technical info...Really like the way you used the Pro and Con format, and took the time to explain these to the reader. As a relative new comer to the 914, your information is very valuable to me.

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I did that Attached Image914-6 GT!
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If this isn't already a "Classic" thread, it should be. Nicely done, Eric!
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@Eric_Shea so adding to this informative & lively thread, I re-read it since Pete bumped it to the top & noticed that you left off "EARLY-early" front struts IE: -> 1968 available on 911/912's SWB as an option ?
Is that because they cant be used?


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It's because the ball joints for such a strut are insanely expensive. They're also solid rotor only systems (for the most part) and overall, not a really worth while install.
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Thanks for this wonderful topic about 5 lugs conversion. Very inspiring.

I have questions though, about rear axles in case of a 915 swap.

My 915 (from a 911 SC) comes with it's own flanges, and I happen to have 911 SC axles in stock, including their stub-axles.

Could I use these SC axles or shall I look for 911 65-73 axles and stub-axles ?

Could I use a 911 65-73 wheel hub with this setup ?

Thanks all for your help !
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post Aug 3 2020, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(ManuFromParis @ Aug 3 2020, 04:55 PM) *

Thanks for this wonderful topic about 5 lugs conversion. Very inspiring.

I have questions though, about rear axles in case of a 915 swap.

My 915 (from a 911 SC) comes with it's own flanges, and I happen to have 911 SC axles in stock, including their stub-axles.

Could I use these SC axles or shall I look for 911 65-73 axles and stub-axles ?

Could I use a 911 65-73 wheel hub with this setup ?

Thanks all for your help !

Now you need to read this thread -Easy 5-Lug Conversion - 911 Running Gear, For High Power Applications... - http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=91963
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* if you use SC or any later 5 lug hub centric hub, you need a 5mm spacer in between the hub and the bearing. Early, lug centric hubs do not require a spacer.
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Now you need to read this thread -Easy 5-Lug Conversion - 911 Running Gear, For High Power Applications... - http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=91963

I did, but I wasn't sure to understand if the SC axles were usable instead of classic axles.
I read it again, but I'm still not sure.

QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 3 2020, 11:04 PM) *

* if you use SC or any later 5 lug hub centric hub, you need a 5mm spacer in between the hub and the bearing. Early, lug centric hubs do not require a spacer.


No harm to the rotor position vs caliper ?
I'm leaving these stock.
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