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r_towle
post Mar 10 2014, 03:34 PM
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nice job Jeff....

I would love to see a separate breakdown on those rear end bits and pieces....great ideas on there.

Rich
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post Mar 10 2014, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Mar 10 2014, 02:34 PM) *

nice job Jeff....

I would love to see a separate breakdown on those rear end bits and pieces....great ideas on there.

Rich



Rich -
You caught me after I took everything apart and put it away until I can take a bunch of parts to the powdercoater in one batch!

Basically the arms are boxed. Have Foleys pivot bracket and parking brake kit. For what Chris's kit cost it wasn't worth going buying a quality swaging tool, cable, fittings etc. to use it one time and his CFR stuff works. Elephant bushings. The wheel bearings are stock 914 Fag on Carrera hubs with a spacer to use the Carrera axels. The parking brakes I bought used from a 912 for $15 off the Samba. Only thing that was good are the pads, adjusters and backing plates. I bought all new hardware (springs, retainers, spreaders new). The calipers are obviously Boxster which these days make no sense to buy used since the price has dropped dramatically. The adapters came from Rich Johnson.

DID I SAY "Have Foleys pivot bracket and parking brake kit. For what Chris's kit cost it wasn't worth going buying a quality swaging tool, cable, fittings etc. to use it one time and his CFR stuff works".

Chris/ CFR always gets a plug from me.

This is all the small consumable parts I ended up buying. The arm modification is straight forward. Grind the bearing carrier down until the backing plate fits like a hat. Weld the pad stop on, CFR cable tube and relocate the cable anchor bracket.






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post Mar 10 2014, 11:05 PM
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That's pretty sweet but is it a pia?


Not at all. Its fun! Considering everything except the caliper adapters and CFR cable kit are off the shelf P-Car parts its really simple.
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post Mar 10 2014, 11:15 PM
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God gave to Nascar and he also taketh away from the Nasty Car guys and then put it my garage.

I picked up a used 4 gallon Patterson oil tank ridiculously cheap. Half a dead president cheap. 16 AN fittings, dual outlets, dual breathers and triple inlets. Came with a tank heater, two temp probes and a couple of monsterous mounting straps. A little wear but clean and no leaks.

Patterson is located close by at the Van Nuys airport so I only need to pickup a new o-ring. I may have them shorten the inlets and close one off.




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post Mar 11 2014, 07:15 AM
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I haven't clicked on this one lately. Very nice!
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post Mar 11 2014, 08:51 PM
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What the hell did I miss here? Jeff turned a pressure cooker into an oil tank? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post Mar 16 2014, 08:56 PM
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43 Plymouth dash? Nope!






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Got to make some room.

Thought about putting a Carrera front spoiler oil cooler but those things are really long at 21+ inches. Would not follow the body contour and would interfere with the bumper fit.

Standard Carrera fender oil cooler tipped on its side. They flow that way anyways.
The core is 13 x 7 x 2.5 which provides a lot of heat throw.

I will shroud the bottom of the cooler and leave an exit behind and under it since it has plenty of room on the backside of the cooler. Its 2 inches above the bottom of the floor well so it wont bottom on anything.


More welding and grinding to finish it off but you get the idea.


Never liked the idea of weather or oil cooler exhaust air going into the trunk.


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post Mar 16 2014, 09:43 PM
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The metal I used is 16 gauge. Would like to have a little bit of strength considering what was removed. Its tied into the floor where it rolls upward and across to each control arm reinforcement to just below the latch.

Funny I used to be able to grab the nose just above the hood latch and it would flex a little. Not anymore. That area is plenty stout now,



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post Mar 20 2014, 11:29 PM
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Hey its got a front end again. A little "R" styling for the oil cooler inlets. Will need to modify the spoiler ends to fit the flairs better later.


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post Mar 20 2014, 11:35 PM
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It has a rear end to ! Lots of work to do here.



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post Mar 23 2014, 12:41 AM
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Rear lighting. Bases painted and assembled.



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post Apr 3 2014, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(Jeff Hail @ Jun 4 2008, 10:28 PM) *

QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Jun 3 2008, 09:24 PM) *

Tip your bartenders and waitresses...


Word has it around here you are a class act (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Are you tending bar tonight or the host?


To back up a bit to last weeks intimate conversation. Here are the spacers for using the late Carrera hubs (one inner, one outer on each side of the 914 wheel bearing). Easy enough? Rotors are also Carrera. Depending on going 20mm or 24 mm appropriate caliper half spacers required.

By the way you spelled Carrera incorrectly. Two "R's always come before the single "R". I just wanted to point that out you know. I am sure the bartender or host will volley back with a good jab just for fun. Thats getting back for the Kings Lad thing.


Jeff please explain the second spacer that appears to go on the backside of the bearing/ SC hub ?? I got and installed the 5mm spacer that goes on the front side / wheel side of the hub to use up against the bearing to use the wider bearing SC hub . Thanks for any info on this setup.

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QUOTE(jaxdream @ Apr 3 2014, 04:45 PM) *

QUOTE(Jeff Hail @ Jun 4 2008, 10:28 PM) *

QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Jun 3 2008, 09:24 PM) *

Tip your bartenders and waitresses...


Word has it around here you are a class act (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Are you tending bar tonight or the host?


To back up a bit to last weeks intimate conversation. Here are the spacers for using the late Carrera hubs (one inner, one outer on each side of the 914 wheel bearing). Easy enough? Rotors are also Carrera. Depending on going 20mm or 24 mm appropriate caliper half spacers required.

By the way you spelled Carrera incorrectly. Two "R's always come before the single "R". I just wanted to point that out you know. I am sure the bartender or host will volley back with a good jab just for fun. Thats getting back for the Kings Lad thing.


Jeff please explain the second spacer that appears to go on the backside of the bearing/ SC hub ?? I got and installed the 5mm spacer that goes on the front side / wheel side of the hub to use up against the bearing to use the wider bearing SC hub . Thanks for any info on this setup.

Jack


Easiest way to explain: Using Carrera hubs and axels. The late 911 stuff uses a wider bearing. To use the 914 cartridge bearing the spacers simply make up the difference in width on each side to match the 911 bearing. The spacers are sized accordingly to properly space the hub in the trailing arm. Boils down to making the bearing cones wider while retaining the dimension of the 914 bearing at the race so as to not modify the 914 trailing arm at the bearing carrier. If you are going with Carrera axels you will need both spacers.

The rotors are a matter of choice and really depend on the calipers being used. I just swapped a buddy my Carrera rotors for SC rotors because Shea will bust my balls about the weight difference. Maybe he wont because he is so cool. When I decided to go with Boxster calipers can use either rotor.

I just went through some parts and have everything out. Let me see if I can take some photos to show the differences. Will add shortly.

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post Apr 3 2014, 11:01 PM
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Carrera axel and lug centric hub on the left with spacers installed.

914 bearing

914 axel on the right.

As you can see the axel stub shank is the same length for both the 911 and the 914.
The shank is the same diameter on both. The splines are different (one course, one fine).

The Carrera axel stub has a more defined step on the shank where the bearing butts up against it. The spacers are chamfered to accommodate this.

With the bearing and hub installed the offset would be incorrect. The spacers correct that issue to center the hub face so the rotors center with the caliper mouth.


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Ok I gottcha , you are centering the Carrera hub in the bearing and using Carrera axles also. It seems a matter of getting the right parts with spacers to work around the 914 bearing size . Nice that these are available to source for differing setups. Thanks again for the info, somthing to ponder.

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post Apr 13 2014, 02:21 PM
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Unhappy with factory lighting and unsatisfied with the bulb output of the Hella R tailites had to take this to another level.

Sourced some dual output (running, brake) LED clusters. They were the brightest I could locate using red LEDS. Red LEDS with red lenses were the obvious solution since white LED washes the color.



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post Apr 13 2014, 02:25 PM
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Modified the Hella bulb housings and installed some standoffs to bring the cluster close to the lens. Because there is no side marker I needed the cluster to illuminate the lens from all angles.

The clusters are waterproof since they are dipped in epoxy. I let these run for 1 hour straight and they do not get hot at all. In fact they don't even get warm.



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post Apr 13 2014, 02:30 PM
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With the lights in the garage out these are really bright on both the run and stop modes.

The last photo is of the ceiling to show how much output these give off. Lit up the whole garage. This was a test with a single lamp on.
Very bright and I am satisfied.







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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Nice work Jeff. Nice to see some skin on it!

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(you can install as many flywheels on your car as ye see fit. I'm just an innocent bystander) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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