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post Jun 18 2016, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(Jeff Hail @ Nov 3 2007, 07:06 PM) *

Mocked up the inner and outer firewalls to see how everything fits. No welds just loose.



Any words of wisdom when it comes to installing the complete lower engine side firewall still having both heater tubes in place. Seems like the standard practice is cutting it in half. But I was hoping there is a more sanitary approach. The tubes really hinder your ability to get it into place.

My first thought is to make some cuts in the flange so I have the ability to bend the field portion. ????
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post Jun 18 2016, 11:42 AM
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It takes some jockeying to get it in with the air tubes not helping. I've had mine in and out for fitting of other pieces. Oddly it sometimes doesn't want to go in after it went in before.

To make matters even more jungle jimish the clutch and throttle conduits installed fight me all the way. I welded my PMS mount to the bulkhead out of the car which makes it impossible to bow the panel for insertion.


So you ask is there a way? For me the inner reinforcement goes last. Its pre fitted. I usually start the lower firewall in a semi tipped horizontal position (like a drawer and then bring it down like a garage door). You can tweek the sides where it meets the longs by bending the ears a bit vertically just inboard of the air tube exits. Then I insert the inner reinforcement which is a pain to get it under the tunnel lips.
Push everything forward.

I would pre fit everything a few times, trace any marks where you want to pre punch any holes for the welds, grind any weld landing zones clean at mating points. Self tapping screws secure the fit up.

There will be blood!

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post Jan 16 2017, 08:35 PM
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Hi Jeff. In post #191 (linked below) you show your repair to the outer right wheelhouse. Newbie question: In places you have clecos on the original wheelhouse. So, did you leave little tabs on the repair piece and flange them so they'd tuck under the original wheelhouse, then drill the 1/8" hole through both for the cleco?

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=1001455
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post Jan 17 2017, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(doug_b_928 @ Jan 16 2017, 06:35 PM) *

Hi Jeff. In post #191 (linked below) you show your repair to the outer right wheelhouse. Newbie question: In places you have clecos on the original wheelhouse. So, did you leave little tabs on the repair piece and flange them so they'd tuck under the original wheelhouse, then drill the 1/8" hole through both for the cleco?

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=1001455


The repair panel was left a little large since I don't care to butt weld aprons or wheel houses. Pretty thin metal in those areas around the height of the battery tray so a little extra as a backer serves well to burn into. I used a small bead on on both sides instead of one fat hot bead since its visible from both sides.. The tail end of the repair panel was a butt weld to the wheelhouse. Both the panel removed and the repair panel have two larges hole in them for alignment of the outer console. The repair panel didn't overlay the old panel perfectly so the clecos were used to position it until I was satisfied where its permanent home would be versus having to use self tapping screws in, out, in out, in out. Just saved time in the fit up.
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post Jan 17 2017, 08:12 PM
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That's very helpful, thanks Jeff.
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post Feb 24 2017, 05:55 PM
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Enjoy!

https://youtu.be/3kLOnEKbuW0
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post Feb 24 2017, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(Jeff Hail @ Feb 24 2017, 03:55 PM) *


That was fun! That road surface looks really rough. Was it that way back in the day?

Are you still working on the 914?
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post Feb 26 2017, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Feb 24 2017, 04:42 PM) *

QUOTE(Jeff Hail @ Feb 24 2017, 03:55 PM) *

Enjoy!



That was fun! That road surface looks really rough. Was it that way back in the day?

Are you still working on the 914?


Its been paved completely from the 101 fwy to Encino Hills Drive once in my lifetime. Its been patched and paved in sections depending on which celebrity cries the loudest or if a washout occurs. Its always been pretty rough. Pot holes are good for the reflexes.

Yup still working on the 914 as much as I can. Life happens and somethings take a back seat.
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post Mar 20 2017, 08:41 AM
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Ran into Aaron Schwartzbart. Trailer got a flat tire on his way home from the track. Interesting guy: ex rocket scientist turned pastor. Does a great job of getting guys off of street racing and onto the track.

Nice car with a 383 stroker and a 930 trans. There is a YouTube video of this car doing a 180mph dyno pull.


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post Mar 20 2017, 08:52 AM
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Beautiful car !!
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post Mar 20 2017, 09:08 AM
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Interesting rear wing location. I understand it's critical to get the wing up high. This one's mounted farther forward than most I've seen.
I'm not smart enough to know anything but I wonder how that might impact aero.
Farther back = more leverage?

Either way, I like the aesthetic. Great looking car (it's giving me some ideas for mine!)
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post Mar 20 2017, 10:13 AM
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My guess is that the location is above the suspension/tire contact patch.
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post Mar 20 2017, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(Tbrown4x4 @ Mar 20 2017, 09:13 AM) *

My guess is that the location is above the suspension/tire contact patch.


Yep, I get that. I was just wondering:
if you put 10 lbs (of force) directly above the contact patch, you'd see 10 additional lbs at the contact patch (less whatever % transfers to the front axle line). But if you put 10 lbs at the end of the trunk, would that give you more at the contact patch?
I'm sure there are formulas for this sort of thing.

Way off topic, sorry... back to your regularly scheduled awsomeness of Jeff's work!
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QUOTE(Jeff Hail @ Mar 20 2017, 07:41 AM) *

Ran into Aaron Schwartzbart. Trailer got a flat tire on his way home from the track. Interesting guy: ex rocket scientist turned pastor. Does a great job of getting guys off of street racing and onto the track.

Nice car with a 383 stroker and a 930 trans. There is a YouTube video of this car doing a 180mph dyno pull.


Surely a Pastor that send or share the bible verse! John 3:16. God Bless you!
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post Jun 29 2018, 09:45 AM
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Hey Jeff,

Did you ever finish your 914....and what about that Headlight Solution....love the work on the brakes!

Grant
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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Mar 20 2017, 01:45 PM) *

QUOTE(Tbrown4x4 @ Mar 20 2017, 09:13 AM) *

My guess is that the location is above the suspension/tire contact patch.


Yep, I get that. I was just wondering:
if you put 10 lbs (of force) directly above the contact patch, you'd see 10 additional lbs at the contact patch (less whatever % transfers to the front axle line). But if you put 10 lbs at the end of the trunk, would that give you more at the contact patch?


You'd be stealing it from the front wheels. I.e., the leverage from moving the wing back would be using the rear wheels as a fulcrum and lifting that extra force (weight) off the front wheels.
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post Jun 29 2018, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(NS914 @ Jun 29 2018, 08:45 AM) *

Hey Jeff,

Did you ever finish your 914....and what about that Headlight Solution....love the work on the brakes!

Grant


Still a work in process. Little work here and there. Its not my first priority right now.

In May 2016 I was thrown a hard fast curveball.

My heart stopped three times on three separate days over one month. Wasn't a heart attack or stroke. No A-Fib. No brain damage. No clogged arteries. Not orthostatic hypertension. Strong heart: normal rhythms and waves. I eat healthy, stay fit, 4 beers in 3 years, avoid drama and toxic people. Still wonder why this happened?

After the first time cardiologist hooked my up to a 12 lead for 24 hours, nada nothing. CT's nada. Multiple MRI's nada. Sent me home with a 5 lead flight recorder.

Over the next three weeks two more times. Imagine your heart not beating for two minutes? Doctors refer to it as "Zero Time" when the heart does not pump oxygenated blood to the brain. Everything stops lights out I'm dead.

Cardiologist: "Hey Jeff congratulations you died three times and lived to tell about it".

Tests, tests, tests. The Tilt Table test was not fun. Its performed in a full cardiac unit with two Docs and two ER nurses. I'm thinking this is serious stuff. Its: 6:00am and the room is kept 60 degrees which I found odd.

The TTT is designed to make you black out. Good part is I didn't pass out. Humans are not designed to stand still for 1 hour upright at a 70 degree angle (yes 70 degrees because your body and inner ear cant tell if you are up or laying down). It is designed to increase your heart rate by constriction (or lack of) in the lower body until it just doesn't pump anymore blood or pool down into the legs.

Test begins laying down for 15 minutes while they baseline your vitals. Then they tip you up at 70 degrees for 1 hour until time up or you go out which ever comes first. Old people are usually only tested for no more than 20 minutes and only make it about 10 minutes before they go down. The spooky part is when you start the test they stick a butterfly in your arm connected to a big syringe loaded with quite a bit epinephrine.. and tape fib paddles to your ribcage. The table is parked next to fully stocked red roll away SnapOn CRASH CART.

Doc "were going to try to make your heart stop, the epinephrine along with a few joules going through these paddles will jump start your heart if it stops. Its safe we do this everyday and your in great hands. We will bring you back to life. Stand still, no moving, don't pump your legs and no talking". The whole time I'm visualizing the scene with Uma Thurman in Pulp Fiction getting stabbed in the tit with a really long needled epi-injector plus jumper cables!

This was where I learned to really trust the cardiologist. ( seriously )

I'm a bit of an adrenaline junky, like I need more epinephrine? I don't think so Doc. At the 20 minute mark you start getting warmer because the heart is working harder. At 30 minutes you start breaking a good sweat and everyone starts watching you really closely. Then the Doc says "Jeff if you feel like you are going to go out just let it happen, we will bring you back to life". I can see the display with my vitals, heart rate like 160bpm now ( remember its designed to make this happen). At 45 minutes one nurse is on my right at the ready to push the plunger on the liquid high octane adrenaline, the other nurse on my left is ready to drop the table down flat. Doc has his finger on the jumper cable button, other Doc is watching my eyes for roll up not saying a word.

I can tell its close, I can feel it in my legs. At one point I'm thinking happen already get it over with so I can get out of here. The human body has a built in safety mechanism. Various baro-sensors in the body detect pressure, too much or lack of. Through the vagus nerve it communicates with what's called the 10th cranial nerve via parasympathetic control with blood vessels, arteries etc so the body can route flow and volume to keep pressure regulated.

Then the medical establishment comes up with that neat hat trick using the 70 degree posture trick to fool that body system to make it all fail.

Part of that built in safety system as any pilot or someone who has experienced high G-forces is our toes and feet and they did not make me take my shoes off. I start curling my toes and pushing with my feet hard to where it hurts. I'm trying to not make it obvious because its considered cheating the test. My heart rates starts to come down to 130. Everyone in the room starts to relax. Nice nurse on my left taps my arm and says "your doing great only 10 more minutes". What 10 more minutes? Are you frigging kidding me?

Now I'm getting spanky, my own adrenaline has kicked in. Listen the only thing going out is the five of us for drinks when we get done? They thought that was funny.

Doc asks are you skrinching your toes? Damn right I am, nobody is going to black out today especially me! "Doc, that's a good sign the vasoconstriction system is working as it should... see if you can keep it up for another 5 more minutes". Test winds down. My body temperature is 101 degrees and now I know now why they keep the room at 60. They drop the table down flat. Done. Made me drink 2 liters of water before I could stand up on my feet.

Two minutes of zero time that changed everything from that moment on. I'm ok. Still do not know what caused it. Its a mystery. Stumped more Doctors because they thought it was syncope at first. Nope syncope only lasts a few seconds. Not POTS either...

Cardiologist thinks is was hypovolemia. Not enough blood. Kind of like when a Berkley Jet on a boat cavitates and no longer pushes water out the nozzle to push the boat forward. Hell of an analogy isn't it? I drink 5 liters of water per day now. Piss like a herd of race horses. Its supposed to keep my blood volume high. Easy fix considering the alternative. Its similar to how people die from extreme dehydration. Dehydration was ruled out but symptoms are the same.

I have a great Cardiologist who is also good friend now. The guy runs 16 miles day. He had to stop midway twice during this years LA Marathon to assist runners who were passing out and needed medical attention.. and he still finished the marathon. Yup that's my Doc who everyone saw on TV saving people who failed to train and condition themselves. He wont admit it when I tell him he is an adrenaline junky too just on a different path.

Here I am today. A very different person. How I approach and look at life. Hearts do not beat forever. I'm quieter and live on my own Hawaiian time now. It works. I look at this experience as a blessing. Every day is a gift and that's how everyone should look at it. No one ever taught me how to give up. I mean that.. I really don't know how to give up. Gods is not done with me on this earth. The universe has a way of getting your attention.

I have not stopped working on my 914. Its just simmering for now. Been enjoying some other non transportation related things though.

Life is long.
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Play hard and get dirty!
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post Jun 29 2018, 09:18 PM
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and one more thing!

No pity, not looking for sympathy. I'm not going on the dead fairy list any time soon.

Don't be clogging up my thread. Stuff happens in life.
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Fantastic writing and some serious content to go along with it. Thanks for the update Jeff. Congratulations on being a contestant on Stump the Cardiologist. Keep winning the game.

* sorry about this clot in your thread.
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