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QUOTE(krk @ Jan 26 2004, 11:23 PM) This is a dumb question, but have you "done time" riding in the passenger seat? I only ask because we brought ours down from Vancouver (BC) to San Jose and traded driving duties. I spent time in the seat and was surpised that it was not uncomfortable. Actually I did 2 hours in the passenger seat Kim. It wasn't to bad. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) The main problem with the regulation seats is I don't fit. I'm 6 foot 10, 300 pounds. And I like comfortable seats. I guess I could install the drivers seat in the passenger spot. Dunno. I'm looking at custom seats more still. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 997 Joined: 27-December 02 From: San Jose Member No.: 22 ![]() |
Hm -- 6'10" -- I can easily believe it would take something custom to get comfortable!
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 852 Joined: 31-May 03 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 766 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand ![]() |
Gint,
Just a thought on your seats. If you are planning to put some race seats in at some time or other it will be a lot easier if you move the crossmember in fromt of the seat about 100 - 150 mm towards the front of the car. You would have to fabricate a carrier in the meantime to mount the seat height adjuster. If I was doing it all again I would certainly move it. It would also make a good place to mount the extinguishers. |
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Mike Ginter ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 16,086 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
Ain't she purty? Ready to head out tomorrow am for Dunkle's.
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waiting to rebuild whitey! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None ![]() |
Have a good trip and be safe.
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Mike Ginter ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 16,086 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
The tub trip story:
I made it back - Barely Glenn Stazak wrote me an email. In the thread that ensued, some new information has come to light with regard to my car. He also provided me with some documents and a letter from Bob Wood himself. Thanks Glenn! I'm going to post some of the info from Glenn, and from Larry Lee's db that he provided me with prior to my purchasing the car. For those of you that don't know, Larry has been collecting 914 advertisements from Excellence and Pano and other sources for many years. Feel free to email him at llee50@stny.rr.com Larry Lee sent me the following upon my request to him for information in which I provided little else than the VIN number: Hi Mike, Yes, I have 2 entries on your car. One from 1987 and the other from 1992. This car hasn't changed hands very much. Looks like it spent most of its life in Arizona. Hope this helps. 70 914 2 "Roadster" 914043#### "Orange/blk int, exc orig cond, Ariz rustfree car, reblt 2.0E eng, S pists, Turn 6 swaybar, #140 springs, alloys, gas shocks, new mast cyl, new rotor & pads." $10500 "Ron" "Vance" "1932 E. Meadow Dr." "Tempe" "AZ" "85282" "602-967-9143" 9/1/1987 "Panorama" PG 105 70 914 0 "Roadster" 914043#### "Orange/blk, mech sound, Carrera chain tensioners, s/s brake lines, proportioning valve, dry cell battery, H-4 headlts, 205/50-15 TAs, Fuch whls, factory sway bar, recent major svc and reblt carbs, new clutch, 11 blade fan, alternator and ""S"" distributor." $0 "Don" "602-997-2785" 12/1/1992 "Excellence" PG 116 This database is an effort by Porsche 914/6 enthusiasts to document these rare and unusual sports cars. 3363 of these cars were produced over 3 short years starting in 1970 and in the intervening decades, these few have left their mark on the streets and race tracks of the world. Due to their age and competition potential, many of these cars have compiled interesting and colorful histories. The purpose of this effort is to provide current owners a place to research their cars and a place for them to share any research they might have done. For the prospective buyer, this provides a place to research cars they might consider buying. The things that you might find in this database include information on originally installed equipment, original engine and transmission serial numbers, previous advertisements in national magazines, names and addresses of previous owners and owner submitted information. This database is intended to promote the preservation of Porsches first mid engined roadster and is aimed at those who appreciate these cars. My database currently has 2385 entries with 770 unique serial numbers. There were 3363 of these cars produced with about 1700 of them being officially imported into North America. The information in my database comes from several sources, these include: Every issue of Panorama from 1970 to date, Every issue of Excellence from April 1987 to date, Every issue of Road & Track from 1970 to date, Some issues of Hemmings from 1998 to date, Defunct publications like Porsche Trends Gallery And other random publications like AutoWeek. Various web sites from about 1996 to date. The web sites include among others: Road Glue http://www.roadglue.com/ 914/6 Registry http://www.stazak.com/914reg/ 914 club http://www.dgi.net/914/ The Rennlist http://www.rennlist.org/ Automobile Atlanta http://www.autoatlanta.com 914 Owners Association http://home.earthlink.net/~deeds/ Ebay http://www.ebay.com/ And random other web sites like PCA region web sites and personal web sites. Also personal observations of 914/6s at various East Coast and Midwest events. I used to do a price run on the database from time to time but haven't been able to do this since I changed database programs due to Y2K issues. The following chart is the output of the price run. Its getting kind of stale but should give you some idea of the price trends for these cars. PRICE HISTORY FOR TYPE 914-6 REPORT DATE 09/13/99 21:02:11 FOR CARS WITH PRICES BETWEEN $1 AND $99999 AVERAGE MAXIMUM MINIMUM NUMBER OF ADVERTISED ADVERTISED ADVERTISED DATA YEAR PRICE PRICE PRICE POINTS ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1971 5300 5300 5300 1 1972 5725 9000 4750 10 1973 4980 6195 3800 10 1974 5467 8950 3700 17 1975 5710 11000 3800 47 1976 6348 11000 4375 25 1977 8115 15500 4750 32 1978 8594 15000 900 49 1979 8033 15000 3600 38 1980 9124 19500 2500 39 1981 10296 25000 2500 38 1982 12297 25000 5700 58 1983 12392 55000 1500 59 1984 10936 23000 3500 73 1985 12580 23000 5750 87 1986 12156 30000 6500 59 1987 13831 85000 6000 71 1988 13832 45500 750 51 1989 11842 30000 3500 57 1990 16109 40000 4200 40 1991 19964 85000 750 81 1992 17067 45000 4250 82 1993 15373 45000 4000 115 1994 13850 50000 4500 127 1995 15646 44995 4750 84 1996 17606 35000 7500 53 1997 17781 40000 5000 69 1998 18086 45000 3000 52 1999 18477 29500 4000 24 Larry Lee Vestal, NY. |
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914 Wiring Harnesses ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,582 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
QUOTE There were 3363 of these cars produced with about 1700 of them being officially imported into North America. Thats really interesting to me Mike. I had never heard this data before. 1700 of (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Dont let me highjack this thread, thats not my intent! |
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Mike Ginter ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 16,086 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
From Glenn:
3/14/2004 Hello Mike, I noticed that you bought Bob's old 914-6. I see that you started to restore the car, how is that going? This car was in Illinois back in the 70's and I believe it was sold out of O'Hare Porsche. The rust is typical of a car that spent time here in Illinois back when it was a daily driver. Keep me posted, Glenn Stazak 3/15/2004 Glenn Stazak wrote: Found it! I also have a copy of the Cert of Auth if you need that here is a list of Chicago area dealers from 1970: Edit 03172012 - I removed the image of my COA. Privacy concerns. Name Street City Porsche Audi at O'Hare, Inc. 1000 Elmhurst Road Elk Grove Village IL Tom Chaney Porsche Audi Corp. 14720 Halsted Street Harvey IL Breen Porsche Audi, Inc. 300 East Ogden Avenue Hinsdale IL Shoreline Porsche Audi, Inc. 80 Greenbay Road Winnetka IL Unfortunately none of these dealers still exists. let me know if you have any questions during reassembly, I have done several sixes. Regards, Glenn And finally: This post has been edited by Gint: Mar 17 2012, 06:43 AM |
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Mike Ginter ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 16,086 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
And a note from Bob
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Mike Ginter ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 16,086 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
QUOTE(bowlsby Posted on Mar 17 2004 @ 09:17 PM ) So if there were only 1700 ever on these shores, only a very few Sixes must remain. Are there 200? 500? 800? 1000 nationwide? Not too many, and a whole lot fewer than I ever understood there to be. But then theres only 120 remaining LE cars that we know of... Dont let me highjack this thread, thats not my intent! Great question Jeff. I'm sure there a lot of 914/6 owners that would like to know the answer. Exchange of information is what it's all about. |
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no rules, just wrong ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,321 Joined: 13-January 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 141 ![]() ![]() |
I'd like to have a nice original six before the $12,000 price ceiling shatters and they can't be had for less than $16k or $20k. I really believe that will happen in my lifetime.
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Mike Ginter ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 16,086 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None ![]() |
Brief commercial message: Jon, I have a $12,000 example for sale. See the classifieds. You can even buy the other one and have an unmatched set.
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,687 Joined: 24-December 02 From: SF, CA Member No.: 4 Region Association: None ![]() |
QUOTE(jonwatts @ Mar 17 2004, 08:47 PM) I'd like to have a nice original six before the $12,000 price ceiling shatters and they can't be had for less than $16k or $20k. I really believe that will happen in my lifetime. aren't we already at $16-20K?? I rarely see them go for less than this, ones that don't need paint/resto. |
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waiting to rebuild whitey! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None ![]() |
I agree, doesn't 12k get you just a bit nicer than a project?
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None ![]() |
Maybe mine's too cheap at $12. It's a very nice driver. Oh well, off to Ebay soon.
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no rules, just wrong ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,321 Joined: 13-January 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 141 ![]() ![]() |
I see people trying to sell them for more all the time but I'm not hearing that they are getting their asking price (excluding ebay lunacy). I hear of factory sixes going for more like $6k - $8k for a good project* and well maintained original cars rarely and barely getting over $12k.
*A good project is a complete running car that needs to be gone through, not a basket case. I ain't no Bruce Anderson, just repeating what I hear from our part of the country. Besides I couldn't buy anything without having Bradholio inspect it and give it his blessing first. I see him too often and he'd never let me live it down (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) |
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Mike Ginter ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 16,086 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
QUOTE(jonwatts Posted on Mar 18 2004 @ 10:49 AM ) I see people trying to sell them for more all the time but I'm not hearing that they are getting their asking price (excluding ebay lunacy). I hear of factory sixes going for more like $6k - $8k for a good project* and well maintained original cars rarely and barely getting over $12k. That statement coincides with my vision of reality as well. Absolutely immaculate restored cars are going for $20k, give or take. And that seems to be hit or miss. Good to pretty nice drivers can be had for $10-14k. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,687 Joined: 24-December 02 From: SF, CA Member No.: 4 Region Association: None ![]() |
I must be looking in the wrong places. I've been keeping an eye out for the past 2 years for fun and hardly seen anything $10-14K.
case in point, this is what I would consider a nice original driver. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...1&category=6430 not sure what it will go for, but I am guessing $16k+. BTW...jim, your car does look nice for $12k. |
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Mike Ginter ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 16,086 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
That car gets bonus points for not having a boatload of undercoating all over the bottom side and being pretty clean overall. If it's rust free, it's a deal at $13-14k. That's as high as I would go based on what I see and read in the ebay ad.
We could argue about this all day. Wait and see what it sells for. And remember that a LOT of ebay 914 deals have fallen through lately anyway. I read through the ad again. If I were in the market, I might go as high as $15K for that car. IF the paint is in fact original and IF it really does have a limited slip and IF it doesn't have any rust, as stated. All of this would have to be confirmed on a PPI by someone I could trust. You won't see many 914/6 cars that haven't been restored that are in as good of condition as that car is. It's the exception. This post has been edited by Gint: Mar 21 2004, 01:27 PM |
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