Restoration thread for original 914/6, Have to start somewhere Options

[Root_Werks]

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) Another cool resto thread! Sweet!

[cantley914]

QUOTE (michel richard @ Jul 16 2005, 10:49 AM)

One Saturday morning, and the rust holes are pretty much fixed ! I also drilled through one of the three bolts that hold left hand side rear radius arm to the body.  The one bolt snapped when Jon was removing it.  I think I managed to save the thread, but I may end up using a longer bolt and a nut on top, just to be sure.  But that's some ways down the road. The main concern right now is getting the car media or sand blasted and primered. Michel Richard

Michel,
Looks like you`ve got in your hands a nice project!
For the broken rear radius arm bolts, I had the same problem with mine and I did just what you stated you would do. I drilled the broken bolt, removed the plastic cap on top and inserted a longer bolt and put a lock washer and nut. It barely shows and does the job.
Also when you get a chance, drop-moi un e-mail
Cantley914@videotron.ca
Good luck , I`ll follow your thread

Steph

[michel richard]

Have'nt done much over the past two weeks. I'm waiting for a n oil cooler to come, so I can start fabbing the necessary air ducting up front. And I'll be picking up some oil system components tomorrow: a 1969 911S oil filter console and external oil thermostat, to be part of my GT-style oil system.

On the GT cars, there is a spacer between the oil filter console and the oil tank. Armando Serrano actually has detailed drawings of this part on his site:
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/23035926
And since it's a 914/6 GT only part, I figured my chances of finding one were close to nil. It's a simple part, however, and I had some aluminum stock in the shop, so I fabed the part. I'm quite happy with the result.

[swl]

You must have quite a shop to have a block of aluminum like that just laying around! Nice work (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif)

[michel richard]

Got a couple more parts, I should be able to make some progress on the oil cooling system. I'm now pretty much commited to a GT style layout:

Got an oil tank console from a 1969 911S. The spacer above fits between this part and the oil tank. It's a magnesium part and it's a little mangled, but I'm pretty sure I can make it work.

[michel richard]

In addition, an external thermostat, also from a 911S of 1969. It appears that the 914/6 GT actually used a 917 part for this application, and this thermostat will need to be modified a little bit. The third hard part of the system is a oil pressure bypass valve, for lack of a better word, I hope to be able to fabricate that part too, but it will certainly be much more of a project than the spacer above.

[ein 6er]

QUOTE (michel richard @ Nov 5 2005, 05:39 PM)

I did some work on the oil line routing: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...=ST&f=2&t=40932 And put an inspection port in the firewall: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...=ST&f=2&t=40931 As to the steering column, I'm not sure I will end up using the following, but the current reasonning is that I need to fill-in some of the area around the steering column, on the dashboard, so I made the following piece:

hey michel!!

i'm really enjoying following your progress. if you decide to use the metal plates for the dash face basketweave, i have some repros of the "eyebrow" trim pieces.

doug

[michel richard]

Doug,

I missed your post, somehow. I'm interested in your repro eyebrow pieces. I'll pm you.

Long time since the last update. I'm waiting for on oil cooler to arrive, I need it to make sure I cut the tub correctly in the front trunk. And until I've built the shrouding for the front oil cooler, I can't take the car to the paint shop.

So I've been working on some parts for the oil system.

The GT cars had a special wide mouth filler neck and I decided I would fabricate a reproduction. What it's supposed to look like is shown here:

http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/22496247

and installed in the car:
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/22265244
and:
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/22265243

I had this cap, from a British car, I think:

[michel richard]

So I started from that and ended with this:

Not the prettiest, but it should work.

I'm also in the process of fabricating a pop-off valve, the one that attaches to the fitting right under the cap, on the neck. I think it's a part that was used on a few racing models. I assume it's horrendously expensive, and it's not too complicated. More on that to follow.

Cheers,

[michel richard]

I started a separate thread to cover the engine work; see:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...=ST&f=2&t=43047

Michel

[michel richard]

QUOTE (ein 6er @ Dec 7 2005, 03:51 PM)

QUOTE (michel richard @ Nov 5 2005, 05:39 PM) I did some work on the oil line routing: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...=ST&f=2&t=40932 And put an inspection port in the firewall: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...=ST&f=2&t=40931 As to the steering column, I'm not sure I will end up using the following, but the current reasonning is that  I need to fill-in some of the area around the steering column, on the dashboard, so I made the following piece: hey michel!! i'm really enjoying following your progress. if you decide to use the metal plates for the dash face basketweave, i have some repros of the "eyebrow" trim pieces. doug

A message to all:

Doug sent me the "eyebrow" pieces he had, FOC. He would not even take shipping expenses.

This board is full of good people.

Michel Richard

[michel richard]

And here they are:

[michel richard]

Also made some progress on the oil system. I posted a picture of the oil filler neck above; I'll POR15 it this weekend. I'm also pretty much done with the pop-off valve, adjusting the pop-off pressure is what remains. Pictures of that part over the weekend too.

I've started another thread to solicit opinions on my plans for an oil radiator. Please see:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...=0&#entry564046

Cheers.

[michel richard]

I added a separate thread with several pictures of the progress I have made on the oil system. See:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...=0&#entry565660

[michel richard]

Spent a bunch of money today !

1) Bought a complete twin plug ignition system off the bird board. Picture is below.
2) I bought a Mazda 2nd generation oil cooler that I plan to have modified, to use as my front oil cooler. It was cheap. The expense is going to be the modifications and the elecrostatic, or electroaccoustic cleaning (whatever it's called)
3) Bought front and rear GT replica hoods from Getty Design, as well as front and back bumpers, front valance, rockers, and oil cooler shroud.

Phew . . .

[joea9146]

The easy part is spending the money.... The hard part is putting it all together.
But I am sure u will get it done. Keep up the Good work. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif)

[michel richard]

Joe,

Thanks for your usual kind thoughts.

Speaking of the hard part. I spent the new year's weekend fabricating some hard oil lines to fit under the driver side rocker panel.

I had been thinking about alternatives for these lines for a long time. The originals are brass. I found a local source for brass tubing but the minimum order was pretty big and it was expensive. Amando Serrano mentions on his site that reporductions are available for US$ 800. I figured I could organize something for less, especially considering likely shipping charges for such a bulky item, across the continent and a border.

I looked into having them made locally, but no one had real interest in such a project.

And I like the satisfaction of making things myself even if the end product is not always exactly up to commercial standards.

So, I started by making some aluminum dies out of spare stock that I had. I turned these out of 4 inch stock. ( I often visit a local recycling yard to see what raw metal they have). I turned out a piece full round, then sawed the round turning into three separate dies, two of which are here.

[michel richard]

I then bought some 1 inch diameter 1/16 wall round tubing in 4 foot sections at the local hardware store. I found I could bend the tubing fairly easily by clamping it between the dies on my bench top vise, bending a little, moving the dies, bending a little more etc . . .
There's quite a few bends involved. I made front and back sections, and mig welded them together, then I ground the welds flat.
Here's an overall view of the lines:

[michel richard]

Sorry for the large pic in the previous post, I forgot to shrink it.

In any event, some of the bends came out quite nice:

[michel richard]

While others have slight kinks. I plan to use these as they are: