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> Steel Flares installed, I have only had them a year now...ahead of schedule
kfish914
post Nov 29 2011, 04:12 PM
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I finally got my flares welded over the Turkey weekend

marking the panels
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the cut out
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all welded up
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post Nov 29 2011, 04:13 PM
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Nice! Looks good!
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post Nov 29 2011, 04:23 PM
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I take it you are deleting the front side marker?

The factory M471 GT's that were imported still had them, but I believe they were moved farther forward on the fender, or perhaps the flares were welded further back.

Either way, it looks good.
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post Nov 29 2011, 05:10 PM
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post Nov 29 2011, 05:35 PM
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Did you butt weld or lap?
Did mine last week also, found lots of bondo and had fitment issues on left rear.
Looks good!
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post Nov 29 2011, 06:55 PM
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Please tell me you didn't leave that flap of metal in there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yikes.gif)

If so, get your head up in there with a grinder and get it out. Overlapping panels like that will capture water and lead to rusted out fenders. Seam sealer will only work as a band-aid. Once the seam sealer breaks down, it traps water BETTER!

Otherwise, nice work! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)
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post Nov 29 2011, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Nov 29 2011, 06:55 PM) *

Please tell me you didn't leave that flap of metal in there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yikes.gif)

If so, get your head up in there with a grinder and get it out. Overlapping panels like that will capture water and lead to rusted out fenders. Seam sealer will only work as a band-aid. Once the seam sealer breaks down, it traps water BETTER!

Otherwise, nice work! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) It's ok to use the overlap method for welding only. This will help with heat warpage. Once your finished get in there and remove the strip of metal, grind everything nicely, use a light on the inside and check for pin holes.
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post Nov 30 2011, 12:25 AM
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very nice, I cant wait to get mine on
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post Nov 30 2011, 07:07 AM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Nov 29 2011, 07:55 PM) *

Please tell me you didn't leave that flap of metal in there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yikes.gif)

If so, get your head up in there with a grinder and get it out. Overlapping panels like that will capture water and lead to rusted out fenders. Seam sealer will only work as a band-aid. Once the seam sealer breaks down, it traps water BETTER!

Otherwise, nice work! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)


Whats the best way to seal the welds on the inner side?
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post Nov 30 2011, 07:20 AM
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rust free you say ?
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QUOTE(bulitt @ Nov 30 2011, 05:07 AM) *

QUOTE(McMark @ Nov 29 2011, 07:55 PM) *

Please tell me you didn't leave that flap of metal in there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yikes.gif)

If so, get your head up in there with a grinder and get it out. Overlapping panels like that will capture water and lead to rusted out fenders. Seam sealer will only work as a band-aid. Once the seam sealer breaks down, it traps water BETTER!

Otherwise, nice work! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)


Whats the best way to seal the welds on the inner side?

I always grind them down smooth just like the outside, but if you opt to leave the bead, at least knock the tops off to level it and apply some primer ( etch then seal, or only use epoxy primer ) then a bead of seam sealer BRUSHED onto the weld. Simply laying a bead out of a caulk tube will leave voids and adhesion will be minimal. You can lay the bead but then follow it up with a small acid brush to get the sealer into the cracks and spread it out a bit. Followed that with a coat of primer and undercoating. All this CAN be done with reattle can products, but would be best with real 2 part paints and a gun.
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post Nov 30 2011, 08:45 AM
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Yes, deleted the side marker lights. I had a lot of trouble deciding to remove them but after looking at a lot of pictures I did not like the look of them moved forward and like the cleaner look of the European cars. I may add a small side marker behind the front flares some day.

Yes, we did overlap weld cut out the ribbon of metal behind and ran a weld bead along the inside as well. We then coated with an epoxy primer and will spray with undercoating next. My friend who has done body work for 18 years believes this gives a stronger joint. Right or wrong he did most of the work so I went with his suggestion.

We had some fitment issues as well getting the bottoms to fit well. Otherwise the panels went on very well. Looking forward to all the sanding and filling and sanding to get everything baby smooth.
Thanks for your responses. Getting flares put on was a 20 year dream of mine. Now if I can figure out the wiring for the 2.7 six I should have this ready to drive in the spring, around here is mid April if we are lucky.
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post Nov 30 2011, 09:30 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) REALLY NEET!, maybe I'll se you around the Bend next Summer!!. I'm driving a yellow 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
QUOTE(kfish914 @ Nov 29 2011, 02:12 PM) *

I finally got my flares welded over the Turkey weekend

marking the panels
the cut out
the weld
all welded up
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post Nov 30 2011, 12:53 PM
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Yeah, I hope to see you also. I was the guy who drove over to pick up the t-shirt. If everything goes well I will be hitting some of the cruise ins in the area. My dad and I try and get out to the Das EssenHaus on their Thursday cruise ins starting in May.
For those that have not seen his yellow one it looks great in person.
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post Nov 30 2011, 04:30 PM
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Awesome! Definitely sounds like you found one of the good guys. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)

Are they headed for paint?
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post Nov 30 2011, 08:59 PM
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Who's flares are those? And any pics of the rear on?
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post Dec 1 2011, 07:55 AM
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could you please show us a close up of the bottom joint near the rocker panel?
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post Dec 1 2011, 10:44 AM
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could you please show us a close up of the bottom joint near the rocker panel?


Very nice!

I would like to see those also. Are you using the wide body rockers for those flairs?

After completing these, would you overlap them again or butt weld considering all factors. I am still floundering on which way to do mine.
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post Dec 1 2011, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(sean_v8_914 @ Dec 1 2011, 05:55 AM) *

could you please show us a close up of the bottom joint near the rocker panel?


Very nice!

I would like to see those also. Are you using the wide body rockers for those flairs?

After completing these, would you overlap them again or butt weld considering all factors. I am still floundering on which way to do mine.


Factory butt welded. So does Scotty B...(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Dec 1 2011, 09:39 PM
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If I were to do it over I would butt weld. Only because of the amount of body work I am looking at this time. I think the butt weld would have given me a smoother starting point.
I went with what he suggested because of his experience, and it was his shop that we did the work in.
I know some are thinking it’s my car I should have done it the way I wanted. For me I like the idea of a strong joint and hind sight is always 20/20. The end result is I have the flares welded on with from what I can see a good seem on both the inside and outside of the car.
I will be modifying my current rockers to match up with the flares so I get a perfect match. I heard many stories of them not lining up (some times more than an inch and a half) and call me cheap but if I’m going to pay $150 plus for some strips of fiberglass I would expect them to line up better than what I have heard they do.
The flares are from the group buy from AA
This is what I hope it will look like when all is said and done.

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I will get those photos once I charge up the camera again.
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post Dec 1 2011, 10:17 PM
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Where can I get the front chrome bumper with the notch in it like the black car has?
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