My 3.3L Subie Conversion Thread, Got me some 914rubber stuff Options

[flmont]

Outfront carries a modded Alt. Bracket for the intake flip,..and small car carries a flexable dip stick,..as I remember it,..??? FM

[Chris H.]

Thanks Frank, I think I got it figured out.

Whoa boys (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) ...I realized I was about to get into the DWD zone. I need to finish this and drive it! It's June!

So here are the pretty injectors...Who knew the tips were silver and not gold?? The other two were already on the rail by the time I remembered to take a pic!







A little oil and they snap back onto the rail easily



Moving fast now...



Figured out what I'm going with the fuel lines since they are routed to pop out the other side. This is pretty exciting since I HATED it that they were on the opposite side from stock 914.

Cut the intake line from the others and bent the line a bit (OK a lot) with a tubing bender ($7.99 at HF)



The return line comes off of the regulator.


I don't see why I can't just run it from here. I'll run the lines under the intake and secure them as stock SVX so it should be fine.

As for the alternator, I uses George's idea of redeploying the empty power steering holder (it's adjustable) and flipping my alternator using the stock holder to the other side.





I'll secure it to the manifold and where the 5/8 return line used to attach. Looks like I can use a Miata belt (I'll post the part # when I get it, the pic is on my other phone). It's 940mm, or just over 37 inches. BTW I have a TON of WD40 on the adjuster so it will loosen up a bit. That's why it looks nasty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .



Almost ready to put her back in! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[76-914]

Way to go Chris. Some righteous progress. Looking good now get off the computer and back in the garage. More pics pls, Senior. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[motoTrooper]

Always wanting to see what your next progress post is all about.

One question that crept into my mind when I review your build, is when you switched from the Coldwater cradle to the one from bigkat you stated that the engine was moved back 4 inches so where were the transaxle axle stubs relative to the hubs? Were they 2 inches in front before and then 2 inches behind after the switch? I understand that, for lubrication purposes, you don't necessarily want them perfectly aligned with the hubs but you want them close(ish) yes?

I am going to pick up an engine this week for the Scorpion. So progress.

[motoTrooper]

Have you seen this semitransparent pic of the SVX? Quite the inclined assembly there!

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I had read that positioning it more horizontal requires a lot more oil in the transaxle. Makes a lot more sense after seeing this.

[Chris H.]

Cool photo. Yes the trans does require a lot more oil when installing more level or even slightly tipped upward.

To answer your previous question, my axles are aligned pretty straight across at this point. As long as they aren't binding there can be an angle to them, in fact some angle is preferred. Stock 914 axles have a fairly pronounced downward pitch to them. Good news that you found an engine!

[Chris H.]

Hey look at that...it still fits!





She's down on all four tires!!!



Time to reassemble and drive this thing. Mostly cleaned up the work area and removed the ECU and wiring in prep to attack it this weekend. I'll post pics of the flipped intake setup, etc as it goes in. Right out of the gate it was easier to install with the extra little stuff I removed. No getting caught on the old engine seal lip, etc. There were a lot of little hooks and metal o rings attached to the engine, plus the extra plumbing that really took up a lot of space.

[76-914]

Looks like it will be back on the road again in < 10 days. Way to go, Chris. I know you've got to be amped.

[Chris H.]

Yes I'm working like a dog to get it back on the road.

I continue to be amazed by the generosity of the people here. Bob took the time to strip an EG33 and give me a ton of parts from it, and now Stephen (914forme) just sent me another box of stuff. Even after I made it pretty clear that the SVX sensors and whatnot are pretty valuable he gave them to me. Also some injectors, etc. Wow. There was one sensor that I had to MacGuyver back together that Bob didn't have...and of course it was in Stephen's box.

Which one of these would you use? (yes, that's JB Weld SO WHAT? I HAVE A PROBLEM! I KNOW! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )



So I finished the intake. Realizing that most of you people are just a little smarter than I am. George pointed out that you have to swap the sensors around so the harness lines up correctly. Also you have to slightly rotate the valve mechanism by drilling the holes out a bit. Don't over-tighten it or it won't open/close well in it's new configuration.

[914forme]

Looking good, get this thing fired up.

[motoTrooper]

Getting very close! Also I like the 'Batman' camera angle shot of the engine/transaxle assembly.

You originally mentioned in your opening post that this was going to be your daughter's car? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving-girl.gif)

With all the fine work you've done have you changed your mind? Is it 'dad's car' now? I imagine I'll have some reluctance to part with mine when I get my project finished.

[Chris H.]

Ha! Well the funny thing is I consider it her car due to the many times that she has stopped me from selling it over the past 14 years. I was planning to do an automatic trans but after discussing it with several members like Bob the options weren't that good. It would have severely hampered the performance if I chose one that was short enough to fit under the car. There are other better options now but I'm down the road. My daughter is going to learn to drive it. I think I MIGHT get it running this weekend. She is chomping at the bit to give it a shot. She will get it someday when she has a place to keep it I'm sure. She's off to college in the fall.

Now this is when you know you're getting old:



That's her waiting for a ride a FEW years ago.

[mepstein]

Mine's off to college in the fall. No interest in one of Dad's wierd 914's.

[BIGKAT_83]

Got a 13 year old grand daughter that thinks my gray car is for her.

Don't really think that's going to happen.


Bob

[Chris H.]

Ah no....not with that engine in it. You'll fix her up with something I'm sure Bob.

[76-914]

Ha! Well the funny thing is I consider it her car due to the many times that she has stopped me from selling it over the past 14 years. I was planning to do an automatic trans but after discussing it with several members like Bob the options weren't that good. It would have severely hampered the performance if I chose one that was short enough to fit under the car. There are other better options now but I'm down the road. My daughter is going to learn to drive it. I think I MIGHT get it running this weekend. She is chomping at the bit to give it a shot. She will get it someday when she has a place to keep it I'm sure. She's off to college in the fall.

Now this is when you know you're getting old:



That's her waiting for a ride a FEW years ago.

What a cutie! Does she OWN Daddy? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Chris H.]

Well YEAH! Her car is 10 years newer than mine. Great kid though.

[veekry9]

RepeatOffender:
"Uh, that's a 2.2, not a 3.3.
I spent 20 yr's in the Homebuilt Aircraft Industry and never saw an auto conversion that merits the work required.
An exercise in WTF!
An adequate analogy would be, 'Would you put an A/C engine in a car and why?'"

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...0844&st=424


http://77e21.info/mstunedintake.htm
https://flycorvair.net/page/5/?s=cleanex

https://www.eaa.org/en/airventure
Some flyers arrive with auto engined 'Experimental'aircraft and have done so since the '60s.
Perhaps you've visited the big show,it's in Wisconsin.Maybe not.
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https://www.google.ca/search?q=composite+in...cyyA80Q_AUIBigB
https://www.google.ca/search?q=fabricated+i...oW-vWF_gAohM%3A
The point of the post was the composite manifold tech he used to fit the powerplant into the space limitation,which he did,successfully.
Later,he flew his aircraft with the composite manifold and oil tank,on his Subaru engine without failure.
Having milled,and welded,a billet manifold to reduce weight,the composite method appears to exhibit good advantage in both cost and weight.
I no longer have those pix of the induction system they built some 32+ yrs ago.Perhaps someone in the kitplane industry would have a few.
It was a well thought out and executed solution to the problem to be solved.Made his own manifold design,to fit,perfectly.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=aircraft+eng...Xe7CjAQ_AUIBigB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42w7z7GDmp4
Obviously,for mo' power.WTF.
Why would you put a different engine into a 914 when the original is sufficient?
The answer to that is,the freedom to do so,wanting to and knowing how.
Last year I read of the install and made the observation that a custom composite intake manifold would fit perfectly.
Now,making the female forms and vbagging a cfrp layup would allow one to perhaps market a manifold to others who like the idea of the 914-H6.
A potential sales of a dozen or so world wide,for those who can make the sum of rusted 914 + cheep boxer six.

"To the fundamentalist,the liberated imagination is a sinful taboo.
He not only enslaves his own imagination to his ideology,but wishes to enslave our imaginations too."
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So,go ahead and build one yourself,for your custom 914-'x' engine install.
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http://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/making-a-...ke-tube.257621/
https://www.google.ca/search?q=composite+in...intake+manifold
https://www.youtube.com/user/matthieutje65/videos
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_4a-KLS1AM
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[Chris H.]

Today is the day....stand by!

- engine back in
- intake flipped - worked GREAT
- wiring is done
- battery connected, no magic smoke
- fuel in the tank
- cooling system full
- re-engineered alternator pulley/belt system done
- modified stock air intake snorkel complete

Just need to run the larger vacuum lines since they are pointed the other way and we're set. Taking my time so there are no mistakes. I'll post everything I did and the pics later today. I got on a roll so I just kept going. 5 day 914 bender when I wasn't working.

Here are the few "minor" things I found that were wrong...

1. The MAF sensor wire that was labeled "test mode" on several conversion docs was actually the GROUND WIRE. So...I don't need to be Mike Bellis to realize that if the plug is not grounded...the air flow meter is not working. Be VERY CAREFUL using conversion documents for wiring.

2. One of the crank angle sensors was bad as mentioned before

3. There were so many little metal hooks and hangers left on the engine that it did not "hang" straight in the engine bay. I took off all of the unneeded stuff and it is perfectly level now.

4. One of the large vacuum hoses (again it was advised I did NOT need this) was not hooked up. Yeah...it's required.

Don't know how it ran much at all, but have to think the crank sensor went bad gradually. I bet it's WAY faster now. It never idled quite right but it probably will now.

[veekry9]

Press on regardless,to the other side.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyHO6fkvEGU
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