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[bondo]

Whose motor mounts are these?

Snicker. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[eric914]

Exactly why I ask (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[fat73]

Whose motor mounts are these?

The crossbar is a Renegade unit and the mounts are actually STI mounts.

Ed aka w9R1

[pankopp]

Any information on fuel Pump? I asked earlier, but you may have missed it...

Thanks!

[TonyAKAVW]

I did see the question but didn't get a chance to look at it. As I recall I have a T junction in the fuel return line, one end comes from the pump, one from the fuel rail. Thats what I recall at least...

-Tony

[jsteele22]

Hey Tony,

Nice work on the radiator. Just curious : what did you use to cut the openings in the body ? Seems like the standard tool is the sawzall, but I still have a hard time imagining getting results that smooth.

[TonyAKAVW]

Here's a price breakdown of my front radiator installation.

1. Radiator (dual pass, "scirocco" style, aluminum, for a late 80's Jetta) $75
2. Radiator Fans (12 inches, pusher style, bought at local electronics swap meet) $10
3. Coolant hose (bellowsflex, 1.25 inch I.D., 20 feet) $180
4. Metal to fabricate shroud $10
5. Metal to fabricate hose adapters $11
6. Misc. hose bends (taken off the engine, previous radiator install) $0
7. Hose Clamps $10
8. Clamps for hose $7

Total: $303 (or 1/3 the cost of the commercially available alternative)

Bellowsflex is almost twice as expensive as the normal stuff from Napa which is definitely as good. The radiator fans would probably cost $150 for new ones but can easily be purchased at a pick and pull for less.

-Tony

[TonyAKAVW]

I used an air body saw from Harbor Freight. $19.99 on sale currently

[toon1]

It looks like everyone is routing the air out of the fender wells. Is there a reason not to vent it out of the bottom of the trunk, under the car?

[fat73]

It looks like everyone is routing the air out of the fender wells. Is there a reason not to vent it out of the bottom of the trunk, under the car?

I'd rather go out the hood. Did fender wells on the last one. Anybody got any comments on vending out the hood?

Ed aka W9R1

[TonyAKAVW]

I have seen pictures of one car who went out the floor of the front trunk.

Several have gone out the hood. Out the hood seems to be the best method in my mind, from the perspective of aerodynamics at least. The wheel well method is usually chosen because it is proven and requires the least work. A hood vent requires a lot more fabrication...

-Tony

[fat73]

I have seen pictures of one car who went out the floor of the front trunk.

Several have gone out the hood. Out the hood seems to be the best method in my mind, from the perspective of aerodynamics at least. The wheel well method is usually chosen because it is proven and requires the least work. A hood vent requires a lot more fabrication...

-Tony

True...cutting out a hole in the fender well and trimming it out is easy. Only takes a few minutes, especially if you have a Plasma cutter to play with.

I'm in no hurry with the 2nd car, and I don't mind if I destroy the hood that's on it. I may give it a shot.

Ed aka W9R1

[jsteele22]

It looks like everyone is routing the air out of the fender wells. Is there a reason not to vent it out of the bottom of the trunk, under the car?

In general you want to take air from an area with high pressure and vent it to an area with low pressure. Right in front of the bumper is very high, and the front of the wheel well is very low. So these places make good sense. Below the car is generally somewhat high, but it can be reduced by adding a front air dam. Generally, that's a BAD idea for a 914, 'cause you want high pressure under the car to help with cooling. For a watercooled car it should work okay.

I've toyed with the idea of a trunk floor exit, since my trunk floor is mostly gone (car used to have A/C). But right now I'm leaning towards copying what Tony did.

[toomanyinkc]

I'd rather go out the hood. Did fender wells on the last one. Anybody got any comments on vending out the hood?

It may be hard to see where you're going when you have a coolant leak.

[toon1]

It looks like everyone is routing the air out of the fender wells. Is there a reason not to vent it out of the bottom of the trunk, under the car?

In general you want to take air from an area with high pressure and vent it to an area with low pressure. Right in front of the bumper is very high, and the front of the wheel well is very low. So these places make good sense. Below the car is generally somewhat high, but it can be reduced by adding a front air dam. Generally, that's a BAD idea for a 914, 'cause you want high pressure under the car to help with cooling. For a watercooled car it should work okay.

I've toyed with the idea of a trunk floor exit, since my trunk floor is mostly gone (car used to have A/C). But right now I'm leaning towards copying what Tony did.

I would think an air dam would do the same for the air pressure in the frontas the plastic air flaps do in the rear.

[mrdezyne]

Ed, I'm with you on the hood idea. Not sure if you remember me but I got a quick ride with you at SEMA this past year when we all met at Renegade before dinner one night. Anyway.... my plan is still a combination of hood and inner fender vents to release air from the radiator.

(first pic) Example of my hood vents... they will require about a 1" lip that raises up around the leading edge to create a better low pressure zone.

[mrdezyne]

(second pic) Instead of an open trunk to use as a big plenum for all that hot air, the plan is to create ducting that moves the air directly to the vent openings both top and bottom.

enough hijacking... if you wish to discuss this any further I have a progress / regress thread going, just search mrdezyne, suby, progress....

[fat73]

Ed, I'm with you on the hood idea. Not sure if you remember me but I got a quick ride with you at SEMA this past year when we all met at Renegade before dinner one night. Anyway.... my plan is still a combination of hood and inner fender vents to release air from the radiator.

(first pic) Example of my hood vents... they will require about a 1" lip that raises up around the leading edge to create a better low pressure zone.

(second pic) Instead of an open trunk to use as a big plenum for all that hot air, the plan is to create ducting that moves the air directly to the vent openings both top and bottom.

Sure I remember. Any thoughts/design on the ducting?

Ed aka w9R1

[mrdezyne]

ok, one more tidbit on the floor idea. There is a member here on the board that has put the radiator in the floor and pulls air from under the car and exits out the fender wells. From what he states, it keeps his V8 nice and cool and has never had any problems... Anyone know who this is?

[pankopp]

tony,

With your coolant tank, did you leave the top nipple open or did you end up installing a hose and connecting it else where? Just wondering, couldnt tell from the pictures.

thanks,
Andrew