 Owners of Original 914/6's, need some info please |
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| McMark |
 Oct 31 2005, 11:55 AM
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914 Freak!  Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None  |
Here's the numbers for the six in my shop.
Chassis: 130914 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) VIN: 9140431232 Color: ????? It's been acid dipped and the number's missing. I'm looking at the old pics trying to see if I can decipher it. Here's a picture showing the differences in olav's car. The purple arrows are the holes which are not cut out, and the orange box is the bumps. Olav's bumps extend towards the center of the car about 1" to 1.5" more than those. He also doens't have the welded in nut that you bolt the horn to. I've contacted Jim Chambers, because if you look at his post in this thread, he's got chassis number 131984. The car produced 3 cars after Olav's. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) Attached image(s) 
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| dbu356 |
Oct 31 2005, 12:26 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 120 Joined: 2-May 04 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 2,013 |
If you are doing this again:
VIN: 9140432432 Chas: 1 3250 4 Karmann: Paint: 80 |
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| dbu356 |
Oct 31 2005, 12:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 120 Joined: 2-May 04 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 2,013 |
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| davep |
Oct 31 2005, 02:05 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,163 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada  |
Great, keep them coming.
Chassis 130914 is way out of sync with the VIN 9140431232. The 914 and 1232 should be closer. Maybe due to the paint code (I have 16 Adriatic blue) being scarce and they had the chassis sitting around for a long time before final assembly. On Olav's car, would it be possible that the car got a new nose? It may be a replacement panel for a 1975; IIRC they did not have the holes punched, and they had other changes for the bumper shocks. BTW Signal orange would be paint code 14, why 47? Jim Chambers car was 8 past Olavs, but the chassis is only 3 past it. Nitpicking sure, but that is the difference between VIN and chassis #'s. The bodies were welded up and chassis # stamped, then painted. Then they were trimmed up and transported from Karmann to Porsche. At Porsche, the trimmed bodies would be put on the final assembly line when that color was needed. The drive train and suspension would be installed, then the VIN was assigned. Note that the front fender VIN is stamped into an unpainted area; probably left that way to avoid cracking the paint. |
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| SirAndy |
Oct 31 2005, 02:53 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,712 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
btw. 9140431232 had the original paint before it was dipped, unless someone went the extra mile to recreate the undercoating-like black paint around the front shock towers ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-2-1058858452.jpg) |
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| SirAndy |
Oct 31 2005, 02:55 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,712 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
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| McMark |
Oct 31 2005, 03:08 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Andy, do you have full size versions of those pics you can send me?
As for Olav's front panel being a 76, I checked the 75 in the shop and while the bump shapes are similar, the holes for the bumper shocks would have been obvious and clearly weren't welded shut. The only explaination I can think of along those lines is that it could be a factory replacement panel from 75/76 that came without all the holes punched and without all the nuts welded into place. And actually, the location where Olav has mounted his horn looks to be in the same location as the welded nut on the 75 car I looked at. Meaning the panel may have come without the nuts welded and the body shop just left them off or didn't know to weld them on. |
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| McMark |
Oct 31 2005, 03:11 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
75 Picture.
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| ClayPerrine |
Oct 31 2005, 03:20 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,596 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille 
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Andy, How come that original six has 4 lug rear wheels on it?????? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) |
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| SirAndy |
Oct 31 2005, 04:11 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,712 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
to make it a roller ... the original trailing arms and axles stuff was at the powder-coater and to be able to roll it around, we slapped two /4 trailing arms on it ... this pic was taken shortly before the car was going to the acid-dipper and we needed to roll it around the shop area ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif) Andy |
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| McMark |
Oct 31 2005, 04:11 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Roller suspension. Just something to keep it rolling while the suspension was being powder coated.
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| maxwelj |
Oct 31 2005, 09:45 PM
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rebuilt member Group: Benefactors Posts: 278 Joined: 8-January 04 From: Owasso, OK Member No.: 1,532 Region Association: None
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VIN 9140431088
body 13 (1) 146 (I can't see all of the third character because of the overlying paint) Paint code 11 Light Ivory, Tan interior Delivered March 1970 It has black shock towers, holes and small humps |
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| davep |
Nov 1 2005, 06:13 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,163 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
Thanks Jack, 131146 would most likely be correct. The last four digits of the VIN and the chassis # should be close to one another.
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| blabla914 |
Nov 1 2005, 07:05 PM
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I like primer Group: Members Posts: 321 Joined: 1-March 04 From: Connecticut Member No.: 1,740 Region Association: None
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I think Olav's front panel is a replacement. My trunk is like Olav's and it has definately been replaced. Big bumps, holes are not cut, and I have bolts to hold my horns in place. This is on VIN 4732924146. The front panel and right front fender appear to have been replaced together. When I had the car stripped my dad said the inner surfaces of the fender looked like the body panels they got at the Porsche dealers he worked for in the late 70's. Hopefully my picture will be attached.
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| McMark |
Nov 1 2005, 07:09 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Well I'm convinced. The mystery is solved. Unfortunate outcome, I suppose. One of those things you probably wish you didn't know. But, replacement front panel or not, Olav's car is still amazing and one of my favorite 914s. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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| blabla914 |
Nov 1 2005, 07:35 PM
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I like primer Group: Members Posts: 321 Joined: 1-March 04 From: Connecticut Member No.: 1,740 Region Association: None
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I don't see how it's unfortunate, unless you are really hung up on originality. I mean we are talking about 30 year old cars.
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| olav |
Nov 1 2005, 07:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,107 Joined: 28-December 02 From: Los Gatos, CA. USA Member No.: 34 Region Association: None |
I'll have to have a look at it closer because I certainly didn't notice any work on it. It looks like a good job if that's what happened though. And no one else has noticed either. Hmmmm... Doesn't bother me either way though because it's still a great car. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif) |
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| mikey |
Nov 2 2005, 03:22 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 424 Joined: 30-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 214 Region Association: None |
VIN: 9140430693
Chassis: 130686 Paint code: 15 Irish Green Still putting it back together (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) |
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| davep |
Nov 2 2005, 11:38 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,163 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
Olav,
It sounds pretty good actually. If the repair is so good as to be almost undetectable except for the different part, I'd be really happy. So, not perfect, such is life. You still have a great car. |
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| olav |
Nov 2 2005, 01:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,107 Joined: 28-December 02 From: Los Gatos, CA. USA Member No.: 34 Region Association: None |
It looks like they must have replace the whole front panel as described in the shop manuals because it's completely undetectable except for the differences in the part. I'll have to have a closer look at the car next time I'm down at the place where I keep it. I'll post some pictures. There was one clue to me that something happened in 1976. Because when I took off the front bumperthere was a sticker stating that it was rechromed in 1976 by San Jose Chrome and there was some major repairs done to it at that time too. I thought, why would they put this bumper on the car as I inspected my front panel for any signs of damage. Didn't see any at all anywhere. Just thought it was strange and wrote it off as a PO weirdness thing. Anyway, I've got a new front bumper to replace the 30 year old redone bumper now so it's perfect. I've had Brad Roberts looking at the car and other members too when I brought the car to Novado to put on new front torsion bars and adjustable sway bar. We had a sort of tech session while everyone was chipping in putting in the stuff and taking out the gas tank etc. Even Andy was there. No one notice anything unusual and everything was perfect for the smart racing adjustable sway bar to be installed. So, it's a very good job indeed. I think the new fron end is stronger anyway ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) As for not perfect, it's perfect to me!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) I don't think it decreases any of the value besides it's a driver and fun car not a collecters car! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) A renegade... ha.. |
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