Studs or longer Lug bolts, stock 4 bolt wheels with spacers |
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Studs or longer Lug bolts, stock 4 bolt wheels with spacers |
jsayre914 |
Jun 16 2011, 04:53 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,206 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I have just orderd some wheel spacers for the front of my 914. They are 4 X 130 20mm spacers. These should bring the front wheels to about the same track as the rear, filling in the front wells. I am just doing it for looks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
My question is the stock lug bolts are 38mm R14 ball seat. With these spacers I need to add the 20mm length. The closest I have found are radusadirect.com and they are 58mm R14 ball seat. I was about to order until I read some threads that stated studs and nuts are better??? what is the benefit? Are the 58mm bolts dangerous?? opinions??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Attached image(s) |
jsayre914 |
Jun 16 2011, 04:55 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,206 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
p.s.
this is a street car only with factory fuches. (not a track car) |
VaccaRabite |
Jun 16 2011, 06:04 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,616 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
studs will keep you from driving the car as you will have to have them pressed into the rotors.
We all know which way you are going to go knowing that. :-) Zach |
sfrenck |
Jun 17 2011, 05:29 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 492 Joined: 28-February 10 From: Wilmington, DE Member No.: 11,411 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Joe - I'm curious how this turns out for you. I too don't like the way the front tires are recessed so far into the body. Where'd you find these spacers? Make sure to post some pics (before / after) when you get 'em on.
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ChrisFoley |
Jun 17 2011, 06:42 AM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,968 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
Adding that much spacer will effectively soften the front end and therefore will increase oversteer.
If you can get the right length lug bolts and the price is reasonable go ahead and do it that way. It won't be any more dangerous than using long studs. |
jsayre914 |
Jun 17 2011, 01:57 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,206 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Where'd you find these spacers? United Kingdom (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) http://machine7.com/ I will post before and after shots as well as how long these babys take to get to me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Joseph (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
jsayre914 |
Jun 27 2011, 10:17 AM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,206 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
11 days from time of order to sitting on my desk. And they are sooooo shiney (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)
still waiting on my longer lug bolts, then I will pop em on. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
Chris Pincetich |
Jun 27 2011, 02:34 PM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
Wow those look fantastic. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Let us know how they fit. Mine are flat, w/o that ring. 914 wheel spacers are not a common find. I have the screw-in "racing studs" that used to be sold on the bmw racin web page, but I am not sure it they still are there. DON't get the screw in studs that use an allen head on the bolt, they work but many sources claim they are weak. Mine have 3 years, 10 AX races, and about 5k miles on them w/o worries. |
KELTY360 |
Jun 27 2011, 02:49 PM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,096 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Is this the type of bolt you're using?
I have 16 of these if you're interested. |
jsayre914 |
Jun 27 2011, 04:02 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,206 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Is this the type of bolt you're using? I have 16 of these if you're interested. I have already orderd custom length bolts from Rad USA Direct, very nice guy. They are cutting me bolts for all 4 wheels. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thanks for the offer though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
jsayre914 |
Jun 29 2011, 04:44 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,206 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Bolts just came in the mail. I have 8 bolts 38mm and 8 bolts 58mm
They are a great company, easy to deal with and fast. Attached image(s) |
sfrenck |
Jun 29 2011, 05:30 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 492 Joined: 28-February 10 From: Wilmington, DE Member No.: 11,411 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Joe,
Take pics of how the spacers fit on the hubs (before putting the tires on) as well. Scott |
jsayre914 |
Jun 29 2011, 05:44 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,206 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Joe, Take pics of how the spacers fit on the hubs (before putting the tires on) as well. Scott (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Deal |
sfrenck |
Jul 7 2011, 05:21 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 492 Joined: 28-February 10 From: Wilmington, DE Member No.: 11,411 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Joe,
Too much fun looking at the car now that the spacers are installed to give an update? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) |
r_towle |
Jul 7 2011, 08:44 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,661 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
I would suggest that with those spacers you go down to the local hardware store and buy a 6 inch bolt (same threads) and cut off the head...then round over the end that you cut and put a slot in it for a screw driver.
Use that to hang the wheel and spacer while you put in the rest of the bolts....or you may end up going nuts in the process. Rich |
racerbvd |
Jul 7 2011, 09:21 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,369 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Sunny FL. Member No.: 226 Region Association: None |
I used 930 wheel studs when I was doing a project like this, maybe not the chearpest studs, but proven and easy to find.
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jsayre914 |
Jul 7 2011, 09:47 AM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,206 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Joe, Too much fun looking at the car now that the spacers are installed to give an update? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) Holidays have been too busy, to give my car any attention. I caught a summer cold with a terrible cough (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) and my 3 week old kitten got strung up in a soccer net, went to the ER and may have to get her front leg amputated (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I have not been here in a while. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad2.gif) update once i feel a bit better (sorry) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
sfrenck |
Jul 7 2011, 10:02 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 492 Joined: 28-February 10 From: Wilmington, DE Member No.: 11,411 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Joe, Too much fun looking at the car now that the spacers are installed to give an update? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) Holidays have been too busy, to give my car any attention. I caught a summer cold with a terrible cough (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) and my 3 week old kitten got strung up in a soccer net, went to the ER and may have to get her front leg amputated (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I have not been here in a while. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad2.gif) update once i feel a bit better (sorry) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Don't apologize - figured you're like me when it comes to putting new parts on the car (they need to be on the moment I get them). |
racerbvd |
Jul 7 2011, 10:01 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,369 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Sunny FL. Member No.: 226 Region Association: None |
Hope the kittie & everything else is OK...
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VaccaRabite |
Jul 8 2011, 08:24 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,616 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Oh no! Which kitty? The bold one or the more timid? How did the vets go?
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