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> After market headlights, final fitting to occur when the car gets painted
Mike Bellis
post Apr 25 2010, 11:50 AM
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I saw a member from Purto Rico use these. I thought I would give it a try. They are for a Nissan 240SX. After 40 hours of cutting and fiberglass, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) they fit pretty well. I will fix the gaps and do some clean up after I strip the body for paint. Fender lines are not straight due to bondo. The slant angle is extreemly close to the 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Each lamp can be adjusted up/down and side to side.

Specs: H7 lamps, LED halo (white/blue color) comes with wire harness with relay for high beam (high beams illuminate all 4 lamps)

If you want to do this too, I recommend a cardboard template of the stock lamp covers. There are no right angles on the 914 headlamps. the template will be smaller than the overall size of the 240sx assembly. find a good fit and cut larger than your marks. Trip and shape slowly. once you have your shape, reinforce the bottom with fiberglass (Kitty Hair and gel). I then mounted some L brackets to the factory mounting holes. I set some wet glass to the brackets and "glued" the assembly in place. Rivet nuts on the brackets make removing easy. Use large washers and open up the factory holes to make final adjustment easy.

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post Apr 25 2010, 12:02 PM
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Someones gotta ask. Why? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Apr 25 2010, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(vsg914 @ Apr 25 2010, 11:02 AM) *

Someones gotta ask. Why? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)


Just because I can... I saved all the stock light parts to return to stock if needed.
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post Apr 25 2010, 12:12 PM
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I kind of like it. This was (could still be) on my to-do list.

Looks good, Mike! How well does it light compared to stock?
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post Apr 25 2010, 12:20 PM
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I'd kind of like to have those where the foglights go. Seems liks someone said there were issues with moving them lower with a law or something (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) . I think they would be great where the foglight grills go. Then you could cut out the area fro the old lights. That would really open the front trunk up for crap (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) . Then of course a solid fiberglass or carbon fiber hood (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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post Apr 25 2010, 12:28 PM
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I like it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) I was wondering if maybe some thing like these would work and follow the lines better.
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post Apr 25 2010, 12:29 PM
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Well done! now the question is, can you make a mold?
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post Apr 25 2010, 12:40 PM
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I was wondering...... How about stuffing them into the pop up? And then put a couple in the lower valance, and angle them slightly out for the twisties at night. To on-comming traffic you'd look like a wall of light.
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post Apr 25 2010, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(RJMII @ Apr 25 2010, 11:12 AM) *

I kind of like it. This was (could still be) on my to-do list.

Looks good, Mike! How well does it light compared to stock?


It's much brighter but I haven't had it driving at night yet. Tonight maybe. I have an HID kit I'm thinking of stuffing in there. The headlight bucket is empty for the ballast (or two). I may still have to do some adjustments to the pattern. I measured a 1-2 inch drop in beam pattern over 3 feet from center of the lamp in my garage. With an HID, I'll have to drop it even lower.
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post Apr 25 2010, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(JRust @ Apr 25 2010, 11:20 AM) *

I'd kind of like to have those where the foglights go. Seems liks someone said there were issues with moving them lower with a law or something (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) . I think they would be great where the foglight grills go. Then you could cut out the area fro the old lights. That would really open the front trunk up for crap (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) . Then of course a solid fiberglass or carbon fiber hood (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


In California, headlights must be a minimum of 22 inches off the ground. Mine are 24 inches to center of lamp. Years ago when my headlight motor went out, I drove for weeks with just my driving lights on and never got pulled over.
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post Apr 25 2010, 01:01 PM
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I have been wanting to do this myself... thanks for letting me know which kit to start with.
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post Apr 25 2010, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(effutuo101 @ Apr 25 2010, 11:29 AM) *

Well done! now the question is, can you make a mold?


If I decide to keep it this way, I'll let you know. May buy another set and fit them even better. I cut 4 inch strips of cardboard for my template. I taped the 4 pieces together in the shape. I flipped it over for the other side. If I do it again, I'll pull the bumper off to make a better edge. Kitty hair mixed with gel to make it flow better worked well for the uderside. The next step would be to fit the sides better and cover the top with carbon fiber. I bet I dropped 40 pounds off the car by removing the old lights and motors.
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post Apr 25 2010, 01:08 PM
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Pretty cool and unique! I would put them on my car in a heartbeat! They would look awesome as a pop-up or a roller light ala Corvette.
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post Apr 25 2010, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(Loser_Cruiser @ Apr 25 2010, 11:28 AM) *

I like it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) I was wondering if maybe some thing like these would work and follow the lines better.


By the looks of that one, you will need to narrow the front wedge. I cut at leats 1 inch from all sides on mine. None of the 240sx angles match up the the 914. I had to twist my template around the donor to find the best fit.
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post Apr 25 2010, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(Sleepin @ Apr 25 2010, 12:08 PM) *

Pretty cool and unique! I would put them on my car in a heartbeat! They would look awesome as a pop-up or a roller light ala Corvette.


It would be easy to recess these under plexyglass with a custom bucket. Smoked plexy so you don't see anything. You could simply cut 2 holes in the rear of the bucket and 4 small holes for the adjustment studs.

Flip over would take much more fab time.

You could change the geometry of the pivot to open less, and have these pop up under factory lids. Custom trim around so it looks factory
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post Apr 25 2010, 01:33 PM
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Another way you could approach a mod like this would be to extend the hood to fill in the entire corner where the headlight lids go. Then take cut the recesses out of the aftermarket assemblies and cut the hood for them to recess. Some molding where the two come together to finish it off.
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post Apr 25 2010, 02:00 PM
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The quad lights definetly make it look more 914/8ish!
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post Jul 28 2010, 03:32 PM
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I pulled the trigger and am becoming a copy cat.

Accept I am going to try to retrofit a Bi-Xenon projector into one of the halogen housings. That part may be tough (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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Wish me luck.
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post Jul 28 2010, 04:03 PM
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I am doing another set too. TurboWalt has commisioned my services to build him a set. We should start a new combined thread specifically on this conversion. Oh wait, this is the thread. Just make sure your car is ready for the Dog Days Drive!
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post Jul 28 2010, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(kg6dxn @ Jul 28 2010, 03:03 PM) *

I am doing another set too. TurboWalt has commisioned my services to build him a set. We should start a new combined thread specifically on this conversion. Oh wait, this is the thread. Just make sure your car is ready for the Dog Days Drive!


You want to make me a set too? Pm me with price and how they will fit...I like this idea a lot!
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