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shuie
post Mar 12 2013, 11:51 AM
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Does anyone have any good pictures or experience in repairing the front inner wheelhouse structure of a 914 tub. The best pictures I can find so far are in the bringing out the dead thread. Some really good stuff there with the factory jigs, etc.

At some point my 914 was hit hard enough on the front driver side corner to crumple the front half of the wheel well. Everything in this area was hammered back into place and painted over. I've restored all of the front suspension pieces. I don't know if they are original to the car, but the a-arms & crossmember are straight and bolt onto the car fine, so I think there is a possibility that everything might still be pretty square. I don't have a Tram gauge so I haven't measured the suspension pickup diagonals yet.

Assuming the car is still square enough to fix, I really want to do a proper structural repair. Either with a new fender, wheelhouse, front latch panel, and floorpan, or by building some kind of tube subframe that ties the strut towers and all of the front suspension points together.

Does anyone here have the fixtures to do these repairs?

These pictures are all from Jeff Hail's Bringing out the dead thread.


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post Mar 13 2013, 02:43 PM
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Awesome pics
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post Mar 13 2013, 08:41 PM
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post Mar 14 2013, 06:48 AM
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jmil, that thread in your signature has a lot of the info I was looking for. Thanks. Nice work!

Yep, if I decide to try to do this myself I will make a similar fixture. I need to measure everything and make sure it's 100% straight and square. I don't know if I know enough to get everything perfectly level and measure everything properly. Im almost ready to put the car on a trailer and send it to someone like Scotty or Series9. If I could get a fixture that I knew was true and confirm that it bolted onto my car I would feel a lot more confident trying the repair myself.

Here is another pic from Jeff Hail's Bringing out the dead thread that shows the measurements I am going to look at first. I think I need a Tram gauge to get these right.

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post Mar 15 2013, 06:30 AM
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Does anyone know if the wheelhouse panels were different on an early car vs. a later impact bumper car? Repair panels for this part of the car are not real easy to find.
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post Mar 15 2013, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(shuie @ Mar 15 2013, 07:30 AM) *

Does anyone know if the wheelhouse panels were different on an early car vs. a later impact bumper car? Repair panels for this part of the car are not real easy to find.

The front wheel houses are the same all years except for the very early cars (1969) with different cowl and front fenders.
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post Mar 15 2013, 01:00 PM
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I'm very interested in this as well. I have to replace both wheelwell and wheelhouses on my OSU orange car.

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post Mar 15 2013, 05:51 PM
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Me too.

I've got a car where the DAPO bondo'd the left wheelhouse, and the bulkhead had a deflection in the middle.

Paging Rick Ollah.....
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post Mar 16 2013, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(Katmanken @ Mar 15 2013, 06:51 PM) *

Me too.

I've got a car where the DAPO bondo'd the left wheelhouse, and the bulkhead had a deflection in the middle.

Paging Rick Ollah.....

If you are close to Portage IN contact Garold Shaffer as he parts out a lot of cars and would have the sheet metal you need.
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post Mar 16 2013, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(Katmanken @ Mar 15 2013, 06:51 PM) *

Me too.

I've got a car where the DAPO bondo'd the left wheelhouse, and the bulkhead had a deflection in the middle.

Paging Rick Ollah.....

If you are close to Portage IN contact Garold Shaffer as he parts out a lot of cars and would have the sheet metal you need.
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post Mar 23 2013, 11:45 AM
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Any tricks for getting an accurate measurement of the suspension points without a tram gauge while the tub is on jack stands? I really don't want to buy a tool like that for a one time use.
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post Mar 23 2013, 11:49 AM
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Buy long bolts to put into the holes and stretch a tape measure between them.

I think my tram gauge from auto body tool house was around $250 or so.

They are useful for doing alignment checks as well.

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post Mar 23 2013, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(FourBlades @ Mar 23 2013, 12:49 PM) *

Buy long bolts to put into the holes and stretch a tape measure between them.



yep, tried that first. The longest bolts I could find from the hardware store don't clear the bottom of the tub from the rear suspension console. I'll try a bolt store next week to see if they have something longer.
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post Mar 23 2013, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(gms @ Mar 15 2013, 11:44 AM) *

QUOTE(shuie @ Mar 15 2013, 07:30 AM) *

Does anyone know if the wheelhouse panels were different on an early car vs. a later impact bumper car? Repair panels for this part of the car are not real easy to find.

The front wheel houses are the same all years except for the very early cars (1969) with different cowl and front fenders.



I thought I was seeing things while putting my early 6 together (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) . Know it makes sense
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post Mar 23 2013, 05:40 PM
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buy some all thread and cut to length
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