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Oil Tank lines |
Cfletch |
Dec 19 2014, 07:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 30-January 14 From: Santa Barbara Member No.: 16,941 Region Association: Southern California |
My original 6 oil tank came, but now I am in need of some oil lines to connect it to my engine. Where is the best place to get them? PP has Oil Cooler To Tank and Oil Tank To Oil Cooler lines for sale which runs about ~$150. Is that all I need to get it all connected?
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Luke M |
Dec 19 2014, 10:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,394 Joined: 8-February 05 From: WNY Member No.: 3,574 Region Association: North East States |
On a Factory 6 there is 3 rubber hoses and one steel return pipe.
You have two hoses that go from the bottom (feed) of the tank to the oil cooler on the engine. On the return side it's steel from the engine to the left engine shelf then the rubber hose connects it to the return side of the oil tank. Only other lines on the tank are for the breather and over flow. PMS sells a new 3 rubber line set for $270.00 Attached image(s) |
Cfletch |
Dec 20 2014, 12:16 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 30-January 14 From: Santa Barbara Member No.: 16,941 Region Association: Southern California |
On a Factory 6 there is 3 rubber hoses and one steel return pipe. You have two hoses that go from the bottom (feed) of the tank to the oil cooler on the engine. On the return side it's steel from the engine to the left engine shelf then the rubber hose connects it to the return side of the oil tank. Only other lines on the tank are for the breather and over flow. PMS sells a new 3 rubber line set for $270.00 So if i purchase that I still need another line? or just need that? |
mepstein |
Dec 20 2014, 07:21 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,592 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
On a Factory 6 there is 3 rubber hoses and one steel return pipe. You have two hoses that go from the bottom (feed) of the tank to the oil cooler on the engine. On the return side it's steel from the engine to the left engine shelf then the rubber hose connects it to the return side of the oil tank. Only other lines on the tank are for the breather and over flow. PMS sells a new 3 rubber line set for $270.00 So if i purchase that I still need another line? or just need that? also need the steel return. |
Luke M |
Dec 20 2014, 07:38 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,394 Joined: 8-February 05 From: WNY Member No.: 3,574 Region Association: North East States |
Unless you already have the 914-6 steel return line then yes you will need one.
You have two options here. You can go with a factory 6 line or a PMS modified line. Only thing with the PMS steel line is you would need a longer rubber return line back to tank. I've seen people run a rubber return line straight from the engine to tank but I don't like that. The steel return line is meant to help with the heat from the headers. PMS also sells a AN oil line conversion kit. Attached image(s) |
Mark Henry |
Dec 20 2014, 09:10 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Also if you have a 911 cooler you need to modify the return pipe on the cooler to 914 style, about $200. The whole stock set-up gets quite expensive.
I debating which way to go, stock or a bit cheaper (hopefully) custom using adapters to AN fittings and hose. You can see the cooler mod here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=4319 |
roblav1 |
Dec 20 2014, 11:47 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 528 Joined: 18-September 12 From: KY Member No.: 14,943 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
It's not that difficult to make your own AN lines. The adapters and fittings will get expensive though.
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GeorgeRud |
Dec 20 2014, 03:44 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I'd use the Patrick Motorsport steel line as it gives you options on adding a future cooler if needed by easily swapping out some small AN hoses. If it's going to be a track car, AN-16 lines would be better, but $$$ and harder to run to the front. AN-12 lines can be made up at home.
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ClayPerrine |
Dec 21 2014, 12:53 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,898 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
I don't have the part number, but there is a 911 flexible line that replaces the hard line (18). It goes all the way from the engine to the oil tank with no other connections. I have one and used it for years.
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Cfletch |
Dec 21 2014, 03:04 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 30-January 14 From: Santa Barbara Member No.: 16,941 Region Association: Southern California |
yeah its for just street use and I wanted to just get everything at once. still not 100%on what I will need.
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Mark Henry |
Dec 21 2014, 03:31 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
I don't have the part number, but there is a 911 flexible line that replaces the hard line (18). It goes all the way from the engine to the oil tank with no other connections. I have one and used it for years. Is it this one? 901-107-331-12-M20 http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/SuperC..._pg8.htm#item31 Is this the smaller size line? I don't know if it would be a big deal on a 3.0- /6. The line on the 2.0-2.7 is just under .100 smaller than the 3.0-up, but the outlet fitting on the case is the same ID both sizes, so I really don't see the smaller hose being a restriction. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
Mark Henry |
Dec 22 2014, 06:40 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Went looking and answered my own question, the fitting into the OEM and my DWD tank is the smaller cohline. Makes sense, the 914/6 is an earlier car than the 3.0 up cars.
If this is the correct one Clay is talking about, it would be a cheap way to get the /6 up and running, $110 for the cohline or $68 for the "German". So this hose $68, about $170 for the 2 return lines and the cost of the cooler mod. Cooler mod from a914guy (Rich Johnson) is listed at $175 plus shipping, so I'll call it $200. $68+170+200= $438 That's the cheapest "new cohline" solution I've seen so far. |
johnhora |
Dec 22 2014, 10:27 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 873 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Derby City KY Member No.: 107 Region Association: None |
here is another source using cohline hose and stock type fittings
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-6-engi...e-/310451513559 |
JmuRiz |
Dec 22 2014, 11:08 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,504 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I have the stock part 18 hard line, I'm not going that route now that I bought an external oil cooler.
Let me know if you still want to buy a stock hardline. |
Mark Henry |
Dec 22 2014, 11:21 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
here is another source using cohline hose and stock type fittings http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-6-engi...e-/310451513559 Yes, but you would still need the 914/6 hardline around $400 Also the OE hardline may have issues with some aftermarket engine mounts. $270+400+200= $870 NOTE both prices I've added up do not include any of the kit needed for a remote cooler, this is just a straight in/out set-up. |
Cfletch |
Dec 30 2014, 01:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 30-January 14 From: Santa Barbara Member No.: 16,941 Region Association: Southern California |
http://www.gprparts.com/item.wws?sku=91491...mp;weight=4.000
alternative to PMS? Doesnt think include everything needed? |
Mark Henry |
Dec 30 2014, 01:38 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Same as post #15, you still need the 914/6 hardline.
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johnhora |
Dec 30 2014, 04:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 873 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Derby City KY Member No.: 107 Region Association: None |
#18 in parts diagram....
here's an oem one for sale... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Factory-Original-N...7ea&vxp=mtr |
JmuRiz |
Dec 30 2014, 07:48 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,504 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Yep, that's the one, PM me for one at a better price (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Mark Henry |
Dec 30 2014, 08:17 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
#18 in parts diagram.... here's an oem one for sale... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Factory-Original-N...7ea&vxp=mtr I'd use a garden hose before I gave that weasel a dime. |
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