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3.2 Carerra Motor SMOKING |
CaltranCraig |
Mar 2 2005, 02:39 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 2-March 05 From: Folsom, CA Member No.: 3,698 Region Association: None |
I have a 3.2 1985 carerra motor in my 914...Great power, great fun... The problem. It smokes while idle...but mainly after it has warmed up. When under load, and when I lay into it, no smoking?
Could this be a vacume issue, oil distribution issue? easy fix you think? Or do I face facts.....need valve guides? valve seals? or engine overhaul (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) Could anyone suggest? Craig |
Series9 |
Mar 2 2005, 02:53 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
Like this: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smoke.gif) ?
Just kidding. Welcome to the club! I assume it's smoking out the exhaust, yes? It's really a very open question. Does your engine have carbs? How many miles? Upgrades/mods? How does it idle? Color of the smoke? etc., etc..... |
JoeSharp |
Mar 2 2005, 02:55 PM
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In Irvine, Ca. May 15-18 Group: Members Posts: 3,947 Joined: 9-July 03 From: DeLand, Florida Member No.: 898 Region Association: South East States |
Welcome to the insanity Craig. Wish I had an answer for you as I'm sure that I will have to answer that question. I go to the Chicken Coop alot. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
Post some pictures of your car I don't think I know it. If you need to resize pics go to FAQ above and there is a thread with a link that works good with only like 3 clicks. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Joe P.S. there is a bunch of us around here that get toghther to do things like fun runs and just to talk 914's (drink beer). |
rick 918-S |
Mar 2 2005, 02:56 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,786 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Welcome, I was going to post some incorrect info about you needing the pull the motor and discard it. Ofcourse I would be around to collect it from your trash pile, (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) but I see your a new guy. So I won't pick on you yet.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif) Well, Maybe just a little... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif) |
TravisNeff |
Mar 2 2005, 02:59 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
smoke on deceleration usually is with the valve guides. Seems odd that it only smokes at idle. Have someone follow you in your cloud of doom and have them tell you what they see. Could be that it is smoking most of the time, but you can't see it while driving.
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MattR |
Mar 2 2005, 03:01 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,279 Joined: 23-January 04 From: SF Bay Area Member No.: 1,589 Region Association: Northern California |
I see you're in newport beach. Theres going to be a 914 club gathering in Costa Mesa in a few weeks. You should bring your car by and check it out!
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Type 4 |
Mar 2 2005, 04:26 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 412 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Costa Mesa Calif. Member No.: 2,866 |
Did you change the oil then it started smoking?
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Joe Bob |
Mar 2 2005, 04:59 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
The common knock on 3.2s is valve guides....
Depending on your intake and how the oil tank is plumbed you maybe be sucking oil from the tank. Do you run it real full or about a quart low? |
BigD9146gt |
Mar 3 2005, 07:47 PM
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OCD member Group: Members Posts: 376 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 3,502 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
Whats up Craig! If I find a wreck some what soon, i'll trade motors and a little cash. That way i can rebuild yours with a twin plug & stand alone setup and spank both you and Dave!
For all of you who want pics... (IMG:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads4/P10100191109900388.jpg) (IMG:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads4/P10100231109900421.jpg) |
scotty b |
Mar 3 2005, 07:53 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Hey thanks a lot BigD (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mad.gif) now I've got to go change my pants and wash up. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)
Me likey lots. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif) |
jim_hoyland |
Mar 5 2005, 06:11 PM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,527 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
Nice car Craig! Got to see it last Sunday in Huntinton. Good Luck.
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jim_hoyland |
Oct 21 2024, 06:27 PM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,527 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
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campbellcj |
Oct 21 2024, 06:33 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
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jim_hoyland |
Oct 21 2024, 07:43 PM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,527 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
It a record; but, I recently heard from Craig and was curious how it went.
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Root_Werks |
Oct 25 2024, 11:24 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,491 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
The common knock on 3.2s is valve guides.... Depending on your intake and how the oil tank is plumbed you maybe be sucking oil from the tank. Do you run it real full or about a quart low? That is an old thread bump! I would agree with this, 3.2's were common for smoking due to valve guides. Also seen on a number of 911's and 914-6's the oil was 1-3 Qts overfilled. |
CaltranCraig |
Nov 26 2024, 11:58 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 2-March 05 From: Folsom, CA Member No.: 3,698 Region Association: None |
It’s got to be the record. Dan did a major engine overhaul, and found the rod bearings to be the culprit, while replacing the valve guides while in.
Runs like a top ever since and is the reliable bullet proof 3.2 liter we all have come to expect. Perhaps I’ll finally get out and meet the motley crew at some point. Always appreciate. |
jim_hoyland |
Nov 26 2024, 12:22 PM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,527 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) good to hear Craig
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Justinp71 |
Nov 26 2024, 05:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,605 Joined: 11-October 04 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 2,922 Region Association: None |
It’s got to be the record. Dan did a major engine overhaul, and found the rod bearings to be the culprit, while replacing the valve guides while in. Runs like a top ever since and is the reliable bullet proof 3.2 liter we all have come to expect. Perhaps I’ll finally get out and meet the motley crew at some point. Always appreciate. Hey are you in Folsom? I am on the other side of Lake Natoma. How does a rod bearing turn into smoking at idle? Because it causes the rings to unseat perhaps? I had a bad rod bearing and I didnt even know until I tore down the motor for valve guides due to smoking on decel. |
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