 BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE: Creamsicle, Extreme Budget Makeover of Daily Driver LE |
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| poorsche914 |
  Oct 1 2015, 09:23 PM
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T4 Supercharged  Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States  |
HISTORY: purchased in spring 2010
Advertised on the Asheville area Craigslist, the pictures of this '74 914 were extremely low res and blurry. I emailed the seller asking for more info and clearer photos. He never responded with anything useful except for the VIN which fell in the range of Can Am production. Hard to tell any details but I could see it was a white car (more on that later) with no sail vinyl. Hmmm... could it be?  I had a '75 2.0 with an interested buyer. Better than that, he procurred both a tow vehicle AND a trailer and volunteered to drive me the 3+ hours to view the '74. The deal was... if I bought the '74, he would buy my '75. We headed to the northwest section of North Carolina and met the seller. At this point the 914 was stored in a metal outbuilding. After removing boxes and other stuff, we rolled the dusty, dirty car out into the lawn. I did a quick check and my suspicions were correct... a possible LE! I spied bits of orange hiding behind the white on the wheels and the bumpers. A quick check under the front end showed the air dam mounting tabs. OK, time to deal!  The 914 had definitely seen better days. The engine had a mismatch of FI parts, the longs (and elsewhere) were rusty, the entire car had been painted white (bumpers, wheels, trim, etc). To top it off, a custom wing fabricated from a Trans Am unit had been mounted to the rear deck lid. All this had been done nearly 20 years earlier when the owner was 17 years old. He parked it when he and his friends realized it just wasn't big enough for everyone to cruise around in.  My offer was his absolute minimum so the deal was made. The 914 was loaded up and we headed back to Tennessee. Once home, the '74 was unloaded and the '75 loaded onto the trailer. I actually made a little money on this deal but went from a running 914 to a non-runner in need of a lot of work. But... I now owned a Creamsicle!  To be cont'd... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) PS: found THIS THREAD from when I first bought it |
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| poorsche914 |
Oct 1 2015, 09:25 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
FIVE YEARS LATER...
The past five years have seen work done on the suspension, brakes, and engine (see this thread) along with some shoddy bodywork. YEAR ONE: Found out my interior was originally cinnamon but dyed black (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Sorted out FI system and finally got the engine running in the fall 2010. Here is a THREAD discussing some of that. And another one. YEAR TWO: After running almost exactly 1000 miles, the original engine spun a main bearing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) This was in spring 2011. The search began for a replacement. During the summer, I located a short block with transaxle somewhere north of Knoxville. No history on the engine. Didn't even know if it would run. But the price was right and I bought it. I installed the engine and actually drove it 1500+ miles roundtrip to MUSR12 in Hot Springs, AR in the fall 2011. Ran strong even if it smoked a little (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) YEARS THREE thru FIVE: Been a daily drive ever since though it now smokes quite a bit more and uses oil at an alarming rate (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Aug 2012 - refurbed suspension, brakes, etc and cleaned up engine (see thread) Won "Jack Stand Award" at Okteenerfest 2013 - OK, Ok... time to fix some things. Some shoddy bodywork and paint was done (by a "professional") over winter 2013-14. It's a 20-footer for sure. Added the "phoenix red" to bumpers, air dam, rockers in fall 2014 in time for Okteenerfest 2014. Did almost nothing to it during 2015 and it shows (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) THE PLANS: 1. Got a Raby 2056 with dual 44s in the works. It's been a long time coming but I should have the RAT engine sometime this fall (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) 2. Before I install the new engine, I need to do some rust/paint work in the engine bay. The hell hole needs attention for sure. Figure I might as well take care of the rear trunk area while I am at it. 3. Interior needs major attention. I plan on stripping the paint, treating the rust, metal repair as needed, and then install new carpet, etc 4. The front end... old accident damage that was improperly repaired needs to be done correctly. Not sure if I am ready to tackle that just yet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) 5. Wheels - need to be stripped and painted Phoenix Red (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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| Johny Blackstain |
Oct 1 2015, 10:22 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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Steve- unless you do the wheels yourself plan on spending @ least $2K refinishing the wheels alone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) If you are looking to save money remember this: phoenix red = Chevy hugger orange or Chevy engine block orange, color wise. Below is a pic of my unrestored, unmolested spare w/ an original OEM Dunlop SP for reference-
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| poorsche914 |
Oct 2 2015, 06:17 AM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Oct 2 2015, 12:22 AM)  Steve- unless you do the wheels yourself plan on spending @ least $2K refinishing the wheels alone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) If you are looking to save money remember this: phoenix red = Chevy hugger orange or Chevy engine block orange, color wise. Below is a pic of my unrestored, unmolested spare w/ an original OEM Dunlop SP for reference- Thanks, Al. Will do them myself. I have found Rustoleum Lobster Red is a perfect match as well (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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| EdwardBlume |
Oct 2 2015, 06:25 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California
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Very cool. How rare was / is the cinnamon internior?
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| poorsche914 |
Oct 2 2015, 06:34 AM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(RobW @ Oct 2 2015, 08:25 AM) Very cool. How rare was / is the cinnamon internior? The cinnamon interior is not easy to find in good condition nowadays and as far as I know, it is unavailable in the aftermarket. Not sure how rare it was during production. I have seen photos of several Creamsicles with the cinnamon interior. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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| Johny Blackstain |
Oct 2 2015, 06:49 AM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(poorsche914 @ Oct 2 2015, 08:17 AM) Thanks, Al. Will do them myself. I have found Rustoleum Lobster Red is a perfect match as well (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) When I did the wheels on my six, I used a rope for a nice, clean, round seam along the outside painted border w/ the polished lip. I also taped off the lug holes to prevent future flaking when you go about messing w/ the lugs. It's a boatload of prep work per wheel. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) QUOTE(RobW @ Oct 2 2015, 08:25 AM) Very cool. How rare was / is the cinnamon internior? Rare. Only Creamsicles occasionally got the cinnamon interior, no Bumblebees. I'd GUESS @ the very most, 1 out of every 5 Creamsicles got "cinnamoned", but like I said that's just a guess. Most came w/ the black interior. I've personally seen 3, including my own. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| 914forme |
Oct 2 2015, 07:08 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None
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Nice score, can't wait. Ha, its the only time you will ever be excited about having a Rat in your car is when the engine is from RAT. Enjoy because that will be one nice running engine.
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| Johny Blackstain |
Oct 2 2015, 07:59 AM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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The car is much simpler to shoot compared to the wheels. Remove the bumpers, rockers, spoiler & rear valence & shoot them phoenix red. Shoot the whole car in ivory white- done.
The wheels have to have all the holes blocked off from behind, lug holes perfectly taped off, center cap hole painted silver & round, the outside rim painted silver & round. This has to be done to all 5 rims. I have 2 complete sets of rims, one w/ skinny tires for show & one w/ fat tires for driving; this is how I know so damned much about creamsicle wheels (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Attached image(s) 
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| poorsche914 |
Oct 2 2015, 08:43 AM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Oct 2 2015, 09:59 AM) ... The wheels have to have all the holes blocked off from behind, lug holes perfectly taped off, center cap hole painted silver & round, the outside rim painted silver & round. This has to be done to all 5 rims. I have 2 complete sets of rims, one w/ skinny tires for show & one w/ fat tires for driving; this is how I know so damned much about creamsicle wheels (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Well, then... I know who to call when I am ready to redo my wheels (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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| Johny Blackstain |
Oct 2 2015, 08:52 AM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(poorsche914 @ Oct 2 2015, 10:43 AM) Well, then... I know who to call when I am ready to redo my wheels (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) If I can, I'll help. |
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| 914work |
Oct 2 2015, 10:32 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 291 Joined: 9-November 11 Member No.: 13,762 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(poorsche914 @ Oct 1 2015, 08:25 PM) <snip>YEAR ONE: Found out my interior was originally cinnamon but dyed black (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)<snip> Curious, How did you find out , COA? As it relates to the motor, if you did get the COA was the motor original to the car? |
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| poorsche914 |
Oct 2 2015, 05:34 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(914werke @ Oct 2 2015, 12:32 PM) QUOTE(poorsche914 @ Oct 1 2015, 08:25 PM) <snip>YEAR ONE: Found out my interior was originally cinnamon but dyed black (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)<snip> Curious, How did you find out , COA? As it relates to the motor, if you did get the COA was the motor original to the car? The case to the original motor that was in the car when I bought it is no longer usable so COA proof is moot at this point. Jake described the damage as a "collapsed main" and said it could not be used for the rebuild. I found a good 1.8 case to be used for the build. No COA yet to verify but no reason to think the interior had been swapped. The dye job was amateur, to say the least... If anyone knows of a way to remove the dye without harming the vinyl, let me know (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) The original seats are actually in pretty decent shape.  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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| EdwardBlume |
Oct 3 2015, 04:34 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California
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Interesting. I've never seen that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) Maybe Jeff knows the number of cars with that option.
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| poorsche914 |
Dec 1 2015, 07:13 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
Nothing major has happened with my project until today... my Raby 2056 has arrived!
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| FourBlades |
Dec 1 2015, 07:28 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States
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Whoooo, the primo engine! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) You will have fun driving with that! John |
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| Johny Blackstain |
Dec 1 2015, 07:56 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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That engine looks like pure fun!
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| trojanhorsepower |
Dec 1 2015, 08:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 867 Joined: 21-September 03 From: Marion, NC Member No.: 1,179 Region Association: None |
Awesome! I can't wait to see/hear it.
Congrats Steve! |
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| poorsche914 |
Feb 22 2016, 07:46 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
Gathering up the items needed to install my 2056.
Carter Fuel Pump (ebay purchase) arrived today.  Engine install to take place Saturday, March 5 if you would like to join the fun (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) PM me for more info. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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| JeffBowlsby |
Feb 22 2016, 09:52 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,737 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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