New owner - Turbo, should I keep?, Looking for advice on keeping the aftermarket turbo that came with my 73 914/2.0 |
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New owner - Turbo, should I keep?, Looking for advice on keeping the aftermarket turbo that came with my 73 914/2.0 |
Lilchopshop |
Feb 17 2020, 08:41 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 75 Joined: 17-February 20 From: New York Member No.: 23,932 Region Association: North East States |
Hello all,
I’ve been a 914 enthusiast for years and I just bought my first one. ‘73 2.0. The car is in good shape structurally, but it hasn’t been on the road in 31 years. I’m still figuring out long term plans for the car and I would appreciate the forum’s advice on what to do with the aftermarket turbo on the car. At this point, I only know that the engine turns over but I have no idea of the condition of the internals or the condition of the turbo. After doing some quick internet searches and learning the long running joke that “you can’t turbo a 914”, I think I’ve figured out that the turbo I have is a Crown Manufacturing unit from the early ‘80s. The engine is still fuel injected, but it looks like some of the original FI parts were removed when the turbo was put in (there is no air filter?) I’m pretty sure that I don’t want a stock setup for the long term. I’d like some extra Hp over stock and have aspirations of taking the car to some AutoX events. But mostly I want a reliable driver that I take out on nice days. So what d’yall think? Should I include the turbo in the plans for this car’s future? If not, what recommendations does anyone have for the engine, keeping my desires in mind? Thanks! Attached thumbnail(s) Attached image(s) |
914forme |
Feb 17 2020, 09:03 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Neat piece of history.
So you want to auto-x. First thing is to read the rule book. Turbo in SCCA bump up the ladder, but might fit into vintage classes. PCA, bump up the ladder NASA bump up the ladder and you have to goto a dyno so your placed in the right class. NASA gets it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) That being said it is your car, and if you just want to show up and drive around cones, that is cool. I have done that before, when I got an itch to auto-x something. Showed up in a newly scurried Miata once. Still had the crap tires and did nothing but get it running the day before. Hard ass skinny tires = drift every corner fun. One of the slowest cars on the course, but I had tons of fun that day. Engine wise, if it was me and it fit in the class, 2056, or 2270 based off the type-4. I ran a nicely built 2056 for years in NASA, and my competition was a supercharged Miata. Tight course I prefer the 914, in more open stuff, PCA and Corvette club, I prefer taking an E36 M3 we used to run. Courses are generally more open with these two organizations in my area. Now I show up for the fun of it, and will run what ever I have at the tim |
Spoke |
Feb 17 2020, 10:23 AM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 7,104 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
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I'm a flame-test guy. If the engine turns, I'd change oil, check the plugs, check the fuel system and see if it starts. If the turbo works then more power to you. If it doesn't, then you're right back to where you are now. |
Cornerlot |
Feb 17 2020, 01:00 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 89 Joined: 4-June 16 From: New Braunfels, TX Member No.: 20,070 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE I’d like some extra Hp over stock and have aspirations of taking the car to some AutoX events. But mostly I want a reliable driver that I take out on nice days. So what d’yall think? 1974 turbo kit technology on a auto-x circuit? I'd bet it would be slower than a stock 914, turbo lag when you need low end torque. Keeping it up on boost would not allow for sharp throttle response. |
thelogo |
Feb 17 2020, 01:45 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
Rebuild the engine and it should run another 30+ years If you know turbos . built it out If you dont know engines . leave it to the pros |
Luke M |
Feb 17 2020, 07:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,400 Joined: 8-February 05 From: WNY Member No.: 3,574 Region Association: North East States |
Hello all, I’ve been a 914 enthusiast for years and I just bought my first one. ‘73 2.0. The car is in good shape structurally, but it hasn’t been on the road in 31 years. I’m still figuring out long term plans for the car and I would appreciate the forum’s advice on what to do with the aftermarket turbo on the car. At this point, I only know that the engine turns over but I have no idea of the condition of the internals or the condition of the turbo. After doing some quick internet searches and learning the long running joke that “you can’t turbo a 914”, I think I’ve figured out that the turbo I have is a Crown Manufacturing unit from the early ‘80s. The engine is still fuel injected, but it looks like some of the original FI parts were removed when the turbo was put in (there is no air filter?) I’m pretty sure that I don’t want a stock setup for the long term. I’d like some extra Hp over stock and have aspirations of taking the car to some AutoX events. But mostly I want a reliable driver that I take out on nice days. So what d’yall think? Should I include the turbo in the plans for this car’s future? If not, what recommendations does anyone have for the engine, keeping my desires in mind? Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Is that the 914 that just sold in Caledonia, NY ?? Where in NY are you located? |
914_7T3 |
Feb 17 2020, 07:36 PM
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Please forgive me, I'm new to all of this! Group: Members Posts: 1,872 Joined: 3-April 17 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 20,991 Region Association: Southern California |
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mb911 |
Feb 17 2020, 07:43 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,369 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I like the turbo setups.. Would do it on a 4cyl car for sure if I had one.
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get off my lawn |
Feb 18 2020, 06:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 18-August 11 From: west coast Member No.: 13,462 Region Association: None |
Turbo on my 914 put me in AI class way back when, pretty much non-competitive but fun as hell.
suspension, tires, brakes get you around an AX track fast, but they can't make smiles like positive intake manifold pressure. If you want AX ribbons, ditch the turbo. Otherwise go for it and have a blast. |
get off my lawn |
Feb 18 2020, 06:18 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 18-August 11 From: west coast Member No.: 13,462 Region Association: None |
oops, almost forgot: you can't turbo a 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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porschetub |
Feb 18 2020, 07:14 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,754 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) I'm a flame-test guy. If the engine turns, I'd change oil, check the plugs, check the fuel system and see if it starts. If the turbo works then more power to you. If it doesn't, then you're right back to where you are now. That's all I would do . |
Lilchopshop |
Feb 19 2020, 08:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 75 Joined: 17-February 20 From: New York Member No.: 23,932 Region Association: North East States |
Thanks for the advice and recommendations. I spent the last couple of nights examining the car and finding all the preliminary things I want to fix before putting the car on the road. Of course, the more I look, the more I find...
I’m not really a “flame test” guy and I’m seeing way too many sins committed by the PO to make me realize that “flame testing” this car might end in actual flames. So I started some disassembly and I got a closer look at the turbo. I also found the throttle body! It was hiding above the transmission. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Pics if anyone is interested or wants a laugh. Attached image(s) |
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