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| sjhenry1075 |
 Sep 17 2020, 09:03 AM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 269 Joined: 22-July 12 From: Stevensville, MD Member No.: 14,709 Region Association: North East States 
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Hey everyone,
Just a quick question/ advice. I recently sold a fiberglass spoiler to a person on Facebook. He paid me for shipping but has yet to pay me the full amount for the item which was shipped and received on Tuesday. First question, what is the etiquette on sending payment? What recourse can be taken if this person just refuses to pay? I appreciate the feedback. Steve |
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| mb911 |
Sep 17 2020, 09:08 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,213 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(sjhenry1075 @ Sep 17 2020, 07:03 AM)  Hey everyone, Just a quick question/ advice. I recently sold a fiberglass spoiler to a person on Facebook. He paid me for shipping but has yet to pay me the full amount for the item which was shipped and received on Tuesday. First question, what is the etiquette on sending payment? What recourse can be taken if this person just refuses to pay? I appreciate the feedback. Steve Steve, Thats not good. I personally do not send anything without being paid in full first. The only exception is someone I know very well. There are few of us on here like Mark Epstein , Oscar, Stephen , Glenn that just send parts back and forth to each other and likely have no idea where or what is owed each other.. |
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| Optimusglen |
Sep 17 2020, 09:09 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 921 Joined: 26-February 16 From: Minneapolis Member No.: 19,709 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(sjhenry1075 @ Sep 17 2020, 10:03 AM) Hey everyone, Just a quick question/ advice. I recently sold a fiberglass spoiler to a person on Facebook. He paid me for shipping but has yet to pay me the full amount for the item which was shipped and received on Tuesday. First question, what is the etiquette on sending payment? What recourse can be taken if this person just refuses to pay? I appreciate the feedback. Steve Ask him nicely for the rest. If he doesn't pay up, you're SOL unless you want to go the route of publicly shaming him. There's no recourse through PayPal for this, and even less if you used CashApp or Venmo. In the future, always receive full payment before shipping anything unless it's a close friend. |
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| mb911 |
Sep 17 2020, 09:11 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,213 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(Optimusglen @ Sep 17 2020, 07:09 AM) QUOTE(sjhenry1075 @ Sep 17 2020, 10:03 AM) Hey everyone, Just a quick question/ advice. I recently sold a fiberglass spoiler to a person on Facebook. He paid me for shipping but has yet to pay me the full amount for the item which was shipped and received on Tuesday. First question, what is the etiquette on sending payment? What recourse can be taken if this person just refuses to pay? I appreciate the feedback. Steve Ask him nicely for the rest. If he doesn't pay up, you're SOL unless you want to go the route of publicly shaming him. There's no recourse through PayPal for this, and even less if you used CashApp or Venmo. In the future, always receive full payment before shipping anything unless it's a close friend. I agree and Glen is another I should have mentioned and I would consider him a close friend though we never have met in person. |
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| Rusty |
Sep 17 2020, 09:20 AM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 Group: Admin Posts: 7,952 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch 
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| Optimusglen |
Sep 17 2020, 09:33 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 921 Joined: 26-February 16 From: Minneapolis Member No.: 19,709 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(mb911 @ Sep 17 2020, 10:11 AM) QUOTE(Optimusglen @ Sep 17 2020, 07:09 AM) QUOTE(sjhenry1075 @ Sep 17 2020, 10:03 AM) Hey everyone, Just a quick question/ advice. I recently sold a fiberglass spoiler to a person on Facebook. He paid me for shipping but has yet to pay me the full amount for the item which was shipped and received on Tuesday. First question, what is the etiquette on sending payment? What recourse can be taken if this person just refuses to pay? I appreciate the feedback. Steve Ask him nicely for the rest. If he doesn't pay up, you're SOL unless you want to go the route of publicly shaming him. There's no recourse through PayPal for this, and even less if you used CashApp or Venmo. In the future, always receive full payment before shipping anything unless it's a close friend. I agree and Glen is another I should have mentioned and I would consider him a close friend though we never have met in person. Why thank you! You're close, hopefully once my car is together I can make a drive out to visit next summer. |
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| mmichalik |
Sep 17 2020, 10:07 AM
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MikeM Group: Members Posts: 722 Joined: 27-January 16 From: Valley Center, CA Member No.: 19,600 Region Association: Southern California
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I had a similar experience but on the other side. I paid someone on FB for a set of italian Webers. He shipped them out and when I went to rebuild them, one of them was so corroded that it was beyond repair. Like it had been sitting in water for years.
I emailed him, he said he would send another one out but, went dark. I told him I would be happy if he just refunded $150.00 and he never responded. Unfortunately, there's no recourse with PayPal as was mentioned earlier. My lesson learned there was to only buy from people on the World and never trust a FB sale, unless I know them. Sorry to hear that it happened to you as well |
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| thelogo |
Sep 17 2020, 10:30 AM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(mmichalik @ Sep 17 2020, 09:07 AM) I had a similar experience but on the other side. I paid someone on FB for a set of italian Webers. He shipped them out and when I went to rebuild them, one of them was so corroded that it was beyond repair. Like it had been sitting in water for years. I emailed him, he said he would send another one out but, went dark. I told him I would be happy if he just refunded $150.00 and he never responded. Unfortunately, there's no recourse with PayPal as was mentioned earlier. My lesson learned there was to only buy from people on the World and never trust a FB sale, unless I know them. Sorry to hear that it happened to you as well (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) Thats not a similar experience at all Buyer beware Expect that anything bought used will need a rebuild or is in poor condition |
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| thelogo |
Sep 17 2020, 10:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
Op
Take some (all) responsibility here You sent the item without being paid 1st Thats you're fault not the buyers. Dont expect people to be stand up guys Youre bound to be disappointed Because you assumed they will do the right thing Is you're mistake for assuming Shameimg, crying and wineing only makes you look bad not the guy who took you . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Recourse is learn you're lesson and dont do it again I mean you have to know that facebook is assclown shooting gallery I always think about pearl harbor and sept 11 Yes it was a cowardly attack on Americans soil But the whole . we got surprised because we had this very American aura of invincibility is something we need to acknowledge and we never do . Take some responsibly then complain . in that order. |
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| rfinegan |
Sep 17 2020, 10:50 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,021 Joined: 8-February 13 From: NC Member No.: 15,499 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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EDIT: I see in the OP it was Facebook...914 world group?
I hate Facebook in a General Statement But... I feel it's a trust issue with most forum sales. If I pay for an item and trust the seller to send it , and he does not, not much you can do, but contact and request a resolution. Public shame is the only recourse. If you send an item and they do not wish to pay for it...request resolution and public shame as a recourse. I feel it should work both ways! Sorry for you situation and do not give in...Trust is a virtue nearly lost in todays age. People here are Good... mostly, Good -Robert QUOTE(thelogo @ Sep 17 2020, 08:37 AM) Op Take some (all) responsibility here You sent the item without being paid 1st Thats you're fault not the buyers. Dont expect people to be stand up guys Youre bound to be disappointed Because you assumed they will do the right thing Is you're mistake for assuming Shameimg, crying and wineing only makes you look bad not the guy who took you . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Recourse is learn you're lesson and dont do it again I mean you have to know that facebook is assclown shooting gallery I always think about pearl harbor and sept 11 Yes it was a cowardly attack on Americans soil But the whole . we got surprised because we had this very American orrah of invincibility is something we need to acknowledge and we never do . |
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| mmichalik |
Sep 17 2020, 10:59 AM
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MikeM Group: Members Posts: 722 Joined: 27-January 16 From: Valley Center, CA Member No.: 19,600 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(rfinegan @ Sep 17 2020, 09:50 AM) EDIT: I see in the OP it was Facebook...914 world group? I hate Facebook in a General Statement But... I feel it's a trust issue with most forum sales. If I pay for an item and trust the seller to send it , and he does not, not much you can do, but contact and request a resolution. Public shame is the only recourse. If you send an item and they do not wish to pay for it...request resolution and public shame as a recourse. I feel it should work both ways! Sorry for you situation and do not give in...Trust is a virtue nearly lost in todays age. People here are Good... mostly, Good -Robert QUOTE(thelogo @ Sep 17 2020, 08:37 AM) Op Take some (all) responsibility here You sent the item without being paid 1st Thats you're fault not the buyers. Dont expect people to be stand up guys Youre bound to be disappointed Because you assumed they will do the right thing Is you're mistake for assuming Shameimg, crying and wineing only makes you look bad not the guy who took you . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Recourse is learn you're lesson and dont do it again I mean you have to know that facebook is assclown shooting gallery I always think about pearl harbor and sept 11 Yes it was a cowardly attack on Americans soil But the whole . we got surprised because we had this very American orrah of invincibility is something we need to acknowledge and we never do . I agree, that it's a trust issue as well, @rfinegan . You want to believe that people are fundamentally good and it sucks when you are proven wrong. @thelogo . We both got burned, one on one side of the sale, one on the other. I'm not blaming anyone but myself for trusting someone I didn't know. Which is why my lesson learned is don't do that. Clearly stated there and I agree that public shaming isn't the way to respond. Pick yourself up, learn from the mistake and move on. |
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| VaccaRabite |
Sep 17 2020, 10:59 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,584 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I've sold a lot of stuff.
If I don't get payment first then its a gift, not a sale. If the person does not want to pay until the object is in his hands, then I'll sell to the next guy. It sucks, but you got suckered. Not much you can do but learn for next time. Zach |
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| Rusty |
Sep 17 2020, 11:02 AM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 Group: Admin Posts: 7,952 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch
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1. This sale did not happen on 914world website.
2. The issue has been resolved between the two gentlemen. 3. People punking the OP for making a mistake? Must be nice to be so perfect. 4. Thread has served it's purpose and is getting ugly. Therefore, it's now closed. edit to add: OP requested closure. |
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