Just another home build 2056 upgrade...but this one is mine!, Redux THrē: It's been so FUN lets do it again..... |
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Just another home build 2056 upgrade...but this one is mine!, Redux THrē: It's been so FUN lets do it again..... |
rfinegan |
Jan 19 2021, 08:10 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,042 Joined: 8-February 13 From: NC Member No.: 15,499 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Porsche 914 2056 upgrade
1.7 case upgrade from 1.7.> 2.0 now> 2056 53.9 cc (turns out these are 1.8 heads)new 2.0 style chamber with 44 x38 valves and 57 CC cambers 9.0 CR Cam Shaft /lifters RABY 9530. See Cam Card KB 96 Pistons and rings (2.0 rods) EMW H-Beam rods ARP bolts. EMW 2.0 Crank.25/ Standard /.25 rods Webber 40 and 44 carbs Short Pierce style manifolds 3/4 bolt Malory Unilite Grey-Grey Distributor Pete Weber 1 5/8 4-2-1 with Evo 2 muffler Tangerine 1 5/8 stub pipes and with 02 bung at collector Innovate LM-1 with RPM Balance internals Balance Crank NEW lightened/flywheel and Pressure plate with blower 1.7 tins complete 9.0 CR with Deck height to .040 Recommend RPM range. 6200? Est HP GOAL. 130-140 HP? After a tear down of my 2.0l engine I started the build up to the 2056 big bore upgrade. Having a Bridgeport I started with the (5) 3/8 oil galley plug on the block halves Drilling a hole in the plugs and a slide hammer to remove the old plugs then started the installation of the new pugs I was able to order from Type 4 store. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50CYceSrBq0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOMa6nqbkBQ |
rfinegan |
Jan 19 2021, 08:45 AM
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Perhaps it is time to start a you tube channel for this...Hmmm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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rfinegan |
Jan 19 2021, 08:52 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,042 Joined: 8-February 13 From: NC Member No.: 15,499 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Note to self:
Remove bearing alignment pins prior to power washing case of chips from machining oil galley plugs. Lost 2 pins |
Mark Henry |
Jan 19 2021, 09:22 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Not everyone has or wants dropbox, I didn't even bother looking.
You can post pics here directly, you don't need a hosting service. The plug on the rear of 1/2 side is very close to the flywheel, you have to make sure you're tapped deep enough, but you also must make sure to trim the backside of the plug. |
rfinegan |
Jan 19 2021, 09:43 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,042 Joined: 8-February 13 From: NC Member No.: 15,499 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Not everyone has or wants dropbox, I didn't even bother looking. You can post pics here directly, you don't need a hosting service. The plug on the rear of 1/2 side is very close to the flywheel, you have to make sure you're tapped deep enough, but you also must make sure to trim the backside of the plug. Great advise Mark Henry, I did trim a second pipe tap for "bottom tapping" and the single hole on the back near the flywheel does not have a cross feed passage so tapping deeper is not an issue I did try to post my video here but were too big, so I m going to reduce the resolution on camera or video extension Yeah, that is a pain trying to view on a device without an account...Ill fix that for sure |
ddire333 |
Jan 19 2021, 10:17 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 91 Joined: 2-November 20 From: ireland Member No.: 24,835 Region Association: Europe |
Will be taking on similar soon. I know it's recommended to upgrade the oil galley plugs, i'm wondering how much this is best practice vs required? If they the existing have stayed in place 45 years, what makes them more likely to be problem now?
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rfinegan |
Jan 19 2021, 10:31 AM
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Required, I would have to say NO
Best Practice. I'm sure the oil pressure on the plug can get high when you are pumping 50 wt oil on a cold day with a 30mm t-1 pump..Loosing a galley plug or having one leak can be time consuming at least to fix the leak and cost you a rebuild if the plug comes out at worst. This is an EZ prevention and low cost, so I can not see why it would not be done while building |
rfinegan |
Jan 19 2021, 10:39 AM
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rfinegan |
Jan 19 2021, 10:40 AM
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mepstein |
Jan 19 2021, 10:41 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,679 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
We had a plug come loose while switching in a used engine to replace a broken one. No reason for it to come loose but it did. It seems like the smart thing to do if you are rebuilding.
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rfinegan |
Jan 19 2021, 11:48 AM
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Looks like the PO gouged the case pulling the front seal at least a few times....by the looks of things
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Superhawk996 |
Jan 19 2021, 12:07 PM
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rfinegan |
Jan 19 2021, 12:39 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,042 Joined: 8-February 13 From: NC Member No.: 15,499 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Thanks Super hawk I added links for Youtube in OP and here:
https://youtu.be/50CYceSrBq0 https://youtu.be/GOMa6nqbkBQ |
Al Meredith |
Jan 19 2021, 02:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 969 Joined: 4-November 04 From: Atlanta, ga Member No.: 3,061 |
With 20/50 oil and a 30MM pump I pump about 80PSI at idle when cold on my 2056. I cover my freeze plugs with JB weld to insure a good seal.
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Mark Henry |
Jan 19 2021, 03:29 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Thanks Super hawk I added links for Youtube in OP and here: https://youtu.be/50CYceSrBq0 https://youtu.be/GOMa6nqbkBQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50CYceSrBq0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOMa6nqbkBQ |
rfinegan |
Jan 19 2021, 04:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,042 Joined: 8-February 13 From: NC Member No.: 15,499 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Mark Henry, thanks for the tip on embedding , its been a while since I have done this kind of thing,,,
EZ when you know how Best Regards -Robert |
Superhawk996 |
Jan 19 2021, 05:34 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,634 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Ta da! Nice work - just like an old pro now.
Looking forward to more on this build. |
rfinegan |
Jan 25 2021, 06:50 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,042 Joined: 8-February 13 From: NC Member No.: 15,499 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
UPDATE: Just received the Engine yoke for the HF stand from [url=https://ljaircooledengines.com[/url]. for under 40.00 (less shipping) bolted right on and woks fine with cheep engine stand or option to mount Desk top.
ALSO. I purchased a set of used Early Weber 44 IDF carbs with the roller accelerator pumps ( Italian ) I think they will clean up nicely . I also have set of IDF 40 with 32 vents from previous build to choose for this build. The 44 IDF have 36 vents. The last set of 44 with big vents really made the top end on the 2L pull hard. The camshaft for my 2056 is the VW Type 4 Porsche 914 912E Basic 9530 Cam Kit and leaning towards the IDF 44 carbs. But not sure what vents to start with? Should work well with the Kerry hunter heads and Evo 2 muffler (still working out the details for the heads) |
rfinegan |
Jan 25 2021, 09:30 AM
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VaccaRabite |
Jan 26 2021, 08:00 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,629 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Though I have built an engine on that type of yolk, its made for T1 engines and for a T4 engine it puts a LOT of stress on the engine case especially when the engine is more dressed.
The better kind had a ring to let the case bear against. There is a very expensive one ($300) and a cheaper on like I have that has three spokes and a 1/2 ring. And for the life of me I can't remember who made mine. :/ Either way, I would not use that yolk for your engine build. Its rolling dice. You may be fine, or you may have a broken case. At the very least, weld a 1/2 ring around it for the case to bear against. Zach |
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