Looking for tail shift rod support bracket bushing, Cant find it in the PET |
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Looking for tail shift rod support bracket bushing, Cant find it in the PET |
markhoward |
Apr 25 2023, 06:57 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 385 Joined: 5-March 17 From: Lafayette, CA Member No.: 20,897 Region Association: Northern California |
Does anyone know where to get the bushing that supports the shift rod at the transmission for a tail shift car? Apparently, it has a smaller inside diameter than the ones that go on the firewall and under the shifter. I looked on 914rubber, AA and Pelican and can’t seem to find it.
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mepstein |
Apr 25 2023, 07:46 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,649 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Maybe me came in a kit with all the shift linkage bushings.
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windforfun |
Apr 25 2023, 07:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,999 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
Call George at AA. Talk to the Doctor.
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ejm |
Apr 25 2023, 08:17 PM
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I can see the light at the end of the tunnel Group: Members Posts: 2,705 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 224 Region Association: None |
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Montreal914 |
Apr 25 2023, 09:29 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,725 Joined: 8-August 10 From: Claremont, CA Member No.: 12,023 Region Association: Southern California |
I think he is reffering to part #44. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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Mikey914 |
Apr 26 2023, 04:09 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,741 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Got the bushing, but not the metal.
You should be able to find one as most folks convert the tail to side shift. https://914rubber.com/tail-shift-rod-bushin...-tunnel-for-914 Attached thumbnail(s) |
markhoward |
Apr 26 2023, 08:25 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 385 Joined: 5-March 17 From: Lafayette, CA Member No.: 20,897 Region Association: Northern California |
Thanks for the replies everyone. @Mikey914 , I intended to install OEM91442422400 but discovered that the ID is larger for the tunnel bushings than the rear bushing at the transmission. Wish I would have realized this prior to removing the old.
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gord |
Apr 26 2023, 10:12 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 30-May 20 From: Toronto, Canada Member No.: 24,334 Region Association: Canada |
Thanks for the replies everyone. @Mikey914 , I intended to install OEM91442422400 but discovered that the ID is larger for the tunnel bushings than the rear bushing at the transmission. Wish I would have realized this prior to removing the old. For what it’s worth, I installed 3 identical bushings in my car without any problems. Why would the ID be different in the tunnel when the rod is the same diameter? |
fixer34 |
Apr 26 2023, 10:43 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,202 Joined: 16-September 14 From: Chicago area Member No.: 17,908 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I just did this exact bushing on my -6 tail shifter last year. I'm guessing it is the same for both -4 & -6? Let me look up who I ordered it from, I'm thinking it was 914rubber. I'll see if I can find the part number.
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markhoward |
Apr 26 2023, 11:18 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 385 Joined: 5-March 17 From: Lafayette, CA Member No.: 20,897 Region Association: Northern California |
Here’s a pic showing the rod in a new bushing. There is a gap for sure. @fixer34 , thanks for looking up the part number.
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mgphoto |
Apr 26 2023, 11:31 AM
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" Group: Members Posts: 1,366 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California |
Here’s a pic showing the rod in a new bushing. There is a gap for sure. @fixer34 , thanks for looking up the part number. Could you take a photo further back, something doesn’t look right? |
markhoward |
Apr 26 2023, 11:43 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 385 Joined: 5-March 17 From: Lafayette, CA Member No.: 20,897 Region Association: Northern California |
I spoke with George at AA. He confirmed that the 3 bushings are the same part number and that I should get German made ones. I may do that but for now, I’m doing this hooptie fix using Nashua aluminum tape to build up the thickness of the rod. Now it is a tight fit and should last a while. My plans for the car involve moving to a side shift with Chris Foley’s shift rod kit so this is definitely a short term solution. The play at the rear is not attributed to wear on the rod as I have the same problem when moving the bushing past the wear area and on to the original painted surface.
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gord |
Apr 26 2023, 11:49 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 30-May 20 From: Toronto, Canada Member No.: 24,334 Region Association: Canada |
Is the bushing still loose on the rod even after it’s pushed into the bracket? Just thinking the fit might compress it quite a bit…
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fixer34 |
Apr 26 2023, 12:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,202 Joined: 16-September 14 From: Chicago area Member No.: 17,908 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Of course, I can't find the order paperwork now that I offered, but I see you have a 'backyard fix'. I suspect there was wear on the rod, it appears that section in the first photo is shiny. As for trying it further down the shift rod, I believe it is slightly smaller diameter so that is not a good test. The last picture even appears to show it necked down a little past where you added the tape.
I will tell you from experience that the extra gap between the bushing and rod doesn't make that big of a difference; tail shifters are a bit loosey-goosey anyway. |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Apr 26 2023, 12:19 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,110 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
91442422400 get a real factory one, the aftermarket sometimes do not fit tightly enough
Does anyone know where to get the bushing that supports the shift rod at the transmission for a tail shift car? Apparently, it has a smaller inside diameter than the ones that go on the firewall and under the shifter. I looked on 914rubber, AA and Pelican and can’t seem to find it. |
Mikey914 |
Apr 26 2023, 01:32 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,741 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
The bushing does compress when installed. I’ve tested and are currently using in my 71.
Believe it or not a with all new bushings, and properly adjusted tail shift transmission shifts just as well as the side shift. It’s just a little more complicated to get adjusted, but just as good. Mark |
r_towle |
Apr 26 2023, 01:44 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,663 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Sadly due to the geometry, the rod should not be super tight in that bushing.
Unless you can get the rod perfectly parallel to the transmission centerline it will bind if the bushing is too tight. I bit of wiggle is intentional to allow for smooth shifting. The three at the same. the firewall bushing is its own unique part. Rich |
mgphoto |
Apr 26 2023, 04:24 PM
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" Group: Members Posts: 1,366 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California |
I spoke with George at AA. He confirmed that the 3 bushings are the same part number and that I should get German made ones. I may do that but for now, I’m doing this hooptie fix using Nashua aluminum tape to build up the thickness of the rod. Now it is a tight fit and should last a while. My plans for the car involve moving to a side shift with Chris Foley’s shift rod kit so this is definitely a short term solution. BTW, the same bushings were used in the tunnel and fit nice and tight there. The play at the rear is not attributed to wear on the rod as I have the same problem when moving the bushing past the wear area and on to the original painted surface. Don’t make this part of your repair. Look for a lower mileage shift rod, plenty out there as many have switched over to side shift. When installed there will be pressure from the mount and you will put plenty of grease on it that’s why it has the boot. The most important part is the ball and key at the end, the wear there makes a lot of the tail shift slop. You could have the rod sand blasted and powder coated but that won’t make the key end any better. |
SLKWrx |
Jun 5 2023, 04:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 326 Joined: 28-September 04 From: Woolwich, NJ Member No.: 2,845 Region Association: North East States |
This might work out for you: https://www.jwestengineering.com/Shift-Rod-...acket_p_42.html
JWest seems to make a direct replacement if I'm seeing it right. |
markhoward |
Jan 9 2024, 07:45 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 385 Joined: 5-March 17 From: Lafayette, CA Member No.: 20,897 Region Association: Northern California |
Just following up on this. I decided to replace all the bushings again using the kit from AA. The bushings were from uroparts and fit much better than the 914rubber ones. The shift rod balls were the same diameter as the 914rubber ones. There was still more play than i would like to see so decided to do the Nashua tape hack on all three bushings and both balls. The aluminum tape held up well after 4k miles so thought it would be nice to see how the car would shift after removing as much play as possible without going overboard. I have to say that I am pleased with the results! I thought about powdercoating the rear shift rod to take up some clearance but took the easy way out for now. I was also thinking of making my own balls on the HF lathe which may still happen if the tape craps out. For now, the tailshifter is not bad at all. Another thought if wanting to take this further would be to configure some sort of heim joint setup doing away with the balls completely.
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