Euro Fog light replacement, No power to fog plugs |
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Euro Fog light replacement, No power to fog plugs |
Bucci |
Dec 27 2023, 08:59 PM
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Bucci Group: Members Posts: 106 Joined: 11-August 08 From: Carlsbad,Ca Member No.: 9,407 Region Association: Southern California |
Good evening gentlemen, I haven’t drilled down on any of the forms to find out the troubleshooting procedures.
1. I tested fog lights independently with 12 V source (working) 2. I hear the relay when I operate the highbeams. 3. All fuses appear to be good, I spun all the fuses under the dash for corrosion and connection. My thought is the fog light switch may be bad, but it feels like all wires are connected. There is a green light that comes on when the switch is active If anybody’s dealt with this lately. I need to check a Porsche manual to see what fuse is connected to the fog light circuit. I’m sure it’s one of the red ones.? I have brand new fuses in the glove box. I may replace them “all” but I did that 10 years ago. lol Thanks, Marc |
Spoke |
Dec 27 2023, 09:24 PM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 7,084 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
Had the same issue. No fogs. Can hear the relay energize. Turns out the relay was bad. The contacts had oxidized and created a large resistance. Changed the relay and I was good to go.
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Bucci |
Dec 27 2023, 09:39 PM
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Bucci Group: Members Posts: 106 Joined: 11-August 08 From: Carlsbad,Ca Member No.: 9,407 Region Association: Southern California |
Had the same issue. No fogs. Can hear the relay energize. Turns out the relay was bad. The contacts had oxidized and created a large resistance. Changed the relay and I was good to go. Thank you sir, I pulled the relay and exchanged them with the headlight relay. One had a slight hesitation, and then started working, which one and did you recommend changing.? One, two or three..? Damn little German gremlins… Thanks |
Bucci |
Dec 27 2023, 09:59 PM
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Bucci Group: Members Posts: 106 Joined: 11-August 08 From: Carlsbad,Ca Member No.: 9,407 Region Association: Southern California |
Had the same issue. No fogs. Can hear the relay energize. Turns out the relay was bad. The contacts had oxidized and created a large resistance. Changed the relay and I was good to go. I’m slowly figuring out the relay assignment. Stillnot working. Thank you, gentlemen… The big round really on the right is a horn. The one to the far left is somehow related to ignition or maybe a headlights.? Photo.pdf ( 1.61mb ) Number of downloads: 52 |
Dave_Darling |
Dec 28 2023, 02:37 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,059 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Look to see which relay has the following wires plugged into it:
Red/Black (red with black tracer stripe) Gray/Red White/Yellow White/Blue That's the fog light relay. The white/yellow is the wire that feeds both fog lights. --DD |
porschetub |
Dec 28 2023, 01:39 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,729 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
I fitted new set of Pilot driving lights and couldn't get them to work ,found the wiring from switch to headlight switch not connected ,they worked fine after that.
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Bucci |
Dec 28 2023, 08:38 PM
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Bucci Group: Members Posts: 106 Joined: 11-August 08 From: Carlsbad,Ca Member No.: 9,407 Region Association: Southern California |
I fitted new set of Pilot driving lights and couldn't get them to work ,found the wiring from switch to headlight switch not connected ,they worked fine after that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) OK just getting home from work and going to check that now. Keep the information coming. I’ll figure this out… |
Bucci |
Dec 28 2023, 10:45 PM
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Bucci Group: Members Posts: 106 Joined: 11-August 08 From: Carlsbad,Ca Member No.: 9,407 Region Association: Southern California |
Look to see which relay has the following wires plugged into it: Red/Black (red with black tracer stripe) Gray/Red White/Yellow White/Blue That's the fog light relay. The white/yellow is the wire that feeds both fog lights. --DD Dave, thank you for your expertise. I’m still in the hunt but getting closer..! Tonight I was able to energize the fog lights manually by pressing down inside the round relay after pulling the round relay cover off. What I’ve deducted is there’s possibly a grounding wire on the column stalk switch or headlight switch that signals the fog light relay to be energized. I think there’s an issue with the headlight switch or maybe the fog light switch wire has come off the main headlight switch..??? I probably should look at a wiring schematic to see what color wire goes from the fog light switch to the main headlight switch. |
Bucci |
Dec 30 2023, 12:47 AM
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Bucci Group: Members Posts: 106 Joined: 11-August 08 From: Carlsbad,Ca Member No.: 9,407 Region Association: Southern California |
Look to see which relay has the following wires plugged into it: Red/Black (red with black tracer stripe) Gray/Red White/Yellow White/Blue That's the fog light relay. The white/yellow is the wire that feeds both fog lights. --DD Dave, thank you for your expertise. I’m still in the hunt but getting closer..! Tonight I was able to energize the fog lights manually by pressing down inside the round relay after pulling the round relay cover off. What I’ve deducted is there’s possibly a grounding wire on the column stalk switch or headlight switch that signals the fog light relay to be energized. I think there’s an issue with the headlight switch or maybe the fog light switch wire has come off the main headlight switch..??? I probably should look at a wiring schematic to see what color wire goes from the fog light switch to the main headlight switch. 12-29-23 Tonight I was able to remove the emergency lighting switch from behind the dash face and I removed the headlight switch from the back of the dash face. Both switches appear to be operating normal, and all wires are intact. Also, I removed and inspected the turn signal and emergency flasher relay that is mounted on a sheet metal lip underneath the dash behind all the switches to the left of the steering column. I found an article online to diagnose and repair the relay, which I believe is working correctly. This is for reference only. http://katdash.com/wp-content/uploads/2016...a2479-short.pdf. My next course of action is to remove the steering wheel and horn ring then replace the steering column “stock-switch” that is used to activate turn signals and headlight “brights”. I’ll have todo that sometime next week. Tomorrow morning I’m headed down to (San Diego) to Gillespie Field airport to help a Buddy change oil and check tires on a 1950 Cessna 170’ passenger airplane. |
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