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> un-bending and de-mangling a tub ..., a progress thread ...
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post Apr 26 2006, 04:21 PM
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i'm going to use this as a progress thread for my upcoming tub un-twisting ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)

i went by Scott's (Yeaman Autobody in Palo Alto) today and we threw the 914 up on the lift and he did a thorough inspection and took a few measurements.
he seems to be confident that it's not as bad as i thought. i hope he's right ...
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the next step will be to strip the tub of all the front/rear suspension parts, steering rack, motor & transmission and anything else i can take off easily. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)

then the tub will be put on his celette bench and we're going to have a whole weekend of "pull that 914" fun!
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i already got a video camera i'm going to use to document this. that, and my usual blurry pictures should make for an interesting documentary ...

can't wait to get this done!
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post Apr 26 2006, 04:27 PM
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Cool beans!!!

I'll be awaitin!

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post Apr 26 2006, 04:28 PM
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ahem....you didn't happen to see The Beast™ lurking in the shop anywhere did you?.....I'd better not get bumped for another 914Club project...mine's a tad overdue (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) ......... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

When do you think you'll be doing the pull? If I'm around, I'd like to watch it in person....

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post Apr 26 2006, 04:34 PM
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Any idea if it is going to tweak the paint?

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post Apr 26 2006, 04:41 PM
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I was concerned about SirAndy's F/G flares cracking....but maybe if Scott thinks it's not too bad, it may be worse to the eye than in the measurement. His flares are pretty nice, I'd hate to see any of them have to be reworked.

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post Apr 26 2006, 04:46 PM
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Do you really have to remove the engine and suspension to bend the tub back? I can't imagine that is a normal procedure for body shops...
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post Apr 26 2006, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(jkeyzer @ Apr 26 2006, 03:46 PM) *

Do you really have to remove the engine and suspension to bend the tub back? I can't imagine that is a normal procedure for body shops...

the more pickup points for the celette bench, the better. the fixtures for the 914 include the transmission mounts and motor mounts as well as all suspension mounting points.

you *can* do this with the engine and trans in the car, but then you will *not* be able to use those mounting points.
i don't see any benefit of *not* using the tranny and engine pickups. do it once, do it right!

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PS: FG and/or Paint cracking is a concern ...
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post Apr 26 2006, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(jkeyzer @ Apr 26 2006, 03:46 PM) *

Do you really have to remove the engine and suspension to bend the tub back? I can't imagine that is a normal procedure for body shops...



It's my understanding that the way the celette bench works is to attach to as many mounting points (susp, eng, trans) as possible. Then, the tub is stretched, tweaked, and untwisted using those points.
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post Apr 26 2006, 04:58 PM
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post Apr 26 2006, 05:47 PM
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good to hear you're getting it fixed!
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post Apr 26 2006, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(Jeroen @ Apr 26 2006, 03:47 PM) *

good to hear you're getting it fixed!

What happened to it in the first place? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Did I miss something? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Apr 26 2006, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(boboli914@att.net @ Apr 26 2006, 05:10 PM) *

QUOTE(Jeroen @ Apr 26 2006, 03:47 PM) *

good to hear you're getting it fixed!

What happened to it in the first place? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Did I miss something? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


I have never owned a 914 that has not shown signs of PO induced body tweaking...improper floor jack placement, floor pans showing signs of contact with a hard surface....front end hitting something hard such as a steep driveway...

What'll be interesting to find out is whether or not the full cage causes any problems with the straightening out of the tub???
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post Apr 26 2006, 06:31 PM
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Is this Birgit's 'little guy' that you are looking at straightening?

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post Apr 26 2006, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE(Demick @ Apr 26 2006, 05:31 PM) *

Is this Birgit's 'little guy' that you are looking at straightening?

where have you been? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

no, birgit's old car is toast ... this is my car i'm talking about ...
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post Apr 26 2006, 08:18 PM
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Oh. I used to drive by Yeaman's every day, and always saw the wrecked 914 out front, and always assumed that was Birgit's old car. I didn't know your car was twisted. I'm sure my car is probably twisted too. It's a salvage title from a front passenger side wreck.

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post Apr 26 2006, 08:35 PM
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A 914 pull! cool! is that like a tractor pull? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif)
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post Apr 26 2006, 08:40 PM
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Demick, I think you are correct that the twisted tub that was in front of Yeaman's for a long time was Birgit's; but I don't know what ever became of it.

I'm with Mueller, interested to see the TCDesign Cage vs Celette Bench smackdown.


PS - we need a taffy pulling smiley
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post Apr 26 2006, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(Demick @ Apr 26 2006, 07:18 PM) *

and always assumed that was Birgit's old car.


correct, that was birgit's old car ...

mine is red ...
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post Apr 26 2006, 09:14 PM
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It might spoil things but I would like to take some clear pictures of tub un-twisting. Then we can have that beer I owe you at Hardy's! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Apr 26 2006, 09:24 PM
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Now this should be a lesson to all of us, just because they break down all the time dosen't meen that we have to beat them into submission. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead horse.gif)

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